the next hurdle on HCR, will the fixes (reconsideration) pass the senate?

[hotatlboi]

There's no way it will not pass. It would cripple the ability of Obama to get anything else through the House.

 

[JB3]

The Republicans are doing what they do best, fear mongering.

Sowing seeds of fear, uncertainty, and doubt to scare Democrats because they don't have any compelling arguments.

It won't work.

Reid understands the responsibility of the agreement with the House.

Or maybe they're, you know, trying to follow the rules of the senate.

 

[Shookone88]

When does this go into effect?

 

[JB3]

When does this go into effect?

Insurance regulations take effect soon, I believe. It is going to be years before anyone will get their 'free' healthcare though.

 

[JB3]

Most commentators are saying that Republicans will try to thwart it through the amendment process.

However, the reconciliation process is simpler and more streamlined. I have not seen any comments that say the Senate will not pass reconciliation from the House.

Links?

I'd say it's their sacred obligation to honor it. The House just passed their bill whole, it stands to reason that they would return the favor.

It stands to reason, but if you think that its easier and streamlined you're ignoring history. Out of 22 bills passed using reconciliation, 21 of them had to be sent back to the house for another vote because the bill the senate passed was different than the one the House sent them. Every single line of the reconciliation bill is going to be scrutinized, and it is almost assured that the senate Parliamentarian will force changes in the bill that will require another house vote. Reconciliation might only require a simple majority, but as a process it is far more stringent than passing a bill using normal means.

 

[JB3]

As far as defenestrating the filibuster rule, I think that's akin to swallowing mineral oil.

Except before the vote even occurs the bill must survive the parliamentarian and any challenges or points of order raised by republicans or democrats. That process is going to take quite a while.

 

[JB3]

It will be quite educational. I look forward to watching it.

Me too. Should be interesting to see the bill picked apart by lawyers. We'll certainly learn a lot more about the specifics of the fixes when this happens.