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** The Official 2012 MLB Thread! **

True....but the Giants do have a very team oriented approach towards winning. Yanks depended basically on CC and home runs in bunches. Gives Mets fans like us hope though;)....you don't need superstars busting the budget. You need a couple of great players, some great complimentary players, some luck, a lot of heart and never say die approach.

I know you reference is towards the Giants but you just described our Mets to a T :D
 
Not shocked by last night's game at all. All due respect to the Tiger's pitching staff,the Yanks had been reeling for a couple of months and were lucky to get by the ALDS.
Yet the media fell all over themselved proclaiming them unbeatable because they beat the Yankees and I think it went to the Tigers heads.
I'm sure they'll bounce back but this is a wake up call for them.
 
I know you reference is towards the Giants but you just described our Mets to a T :D
Not QUITE yet but getting there.....our pitching staff with young studs in Jon Niese, Matt Harvey and the upcoming Zack Wheeler ( plus RA Dickey,Johann Santana and Dillon Gee) is promising. Keeping DWright and continued growth by Ike Davis and Daniel Murphy, Ruben Tejada and either by acquisition or development a couple of our outfield spots plus Josh Thole has to provide the contact hitting spark he did early on. But if we improve and add a couple of grinder types with heart and dsire as well as talent to reinforce the posivity Terry Collins has been preaching to the boys and most impotantly, stabilize our bullpen so we can be in a position to win games even if like the Giants we don't ordinarily score a ton of runs we will be in a situation that if we take advantage of the opportunity can be a serious playoff contender even without a flashy, superstar filled roster with very generous budgeting.

BTW my prediction of a Giants WS victory is working out pretty well for me in the early going!:p



Not shocked by last night's game at all. All due respect to the Tiger's pitching staff,the Yanks had been reeling for a couple of months and were lucky to get by the ALDS.
Yet the media fell all over themselved proclaiming them unbeatable because they beat the Yankees and I think it went to the Tigers heads.
I'm sure they'll bounce back but this is a wake up call for them.
Yep...don't think ANYONE expected Verlander to be so ordinary,though. Kudos to the sparkplug Pablo Sandoval's World Seeries tying three homers in a game...the legend of the Panda grows!;) Barry Zito gave em more than enough allowing only one run in five and two thirds innings and the bullpen capably took it from there. It is strange though to see a World Series star like Tim Lincecum pitching out of the pen, as his season unfortunately has seen him go from "The Freak" to "WTF is wrong with him"? But hopefully he can get that spark he had back ...for now I'm sure he's enjoying doing anything to help contribute towards a second title for the San Francisco Giants in two years.
 
Giants go up 3-0 over Detroit as Ryan Vogelsong continues his strong playoff run going five and two thirds scoreless innings and Tim Lincecum continued his dominating relief efforts pitching two plus innings in a 2-0 Giants triumph going back to Detroit....Detroit's power duo of Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder continue their WS futility as the Tigers seem to be now on the receiving end of what they gave the Yankees. Just total futility, three shutouts in a row which is a WS record to open up the series. Think sonny has to think again about dissin' my Giants prediction of WS victory:p...though I DID say 7 games, not anticipating the potential of a Giant sweep at all!
 
Giants go up 3-0 over Detroit as Ryan Vogelsong continues his strong playoff run going five and two thirds scoreless innings and Tim Lincecum continued his dominating relief efforts pitching two plus innings in a 2-0 Giants triumph going back to Detroit....Detroit's power duo of Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder continue their WS futility as the Tigers seem to be now on the receiving end of what they gave the Yankees. Just total futility, three shutouts in a row which is a WS record to open up the series. Think sonny has to think again about dissin' my Giants prediction of WS victory:p...though I DID say 7 games, not anticipating the potential of a Giant sweep at all!
Ooops..my bad....Barry Zito allowed one run in the first game, past two were shutouts but the Tigers did score 2 additional runs in the first game after Zito left.#-o
 
Think sonny has to think again about dissin' my Giants prediction of WS victory:p...though I DID say 7 games, not anticipating the potential of a Giant sweep at all!



Nah not at all I have no dog in this fight just thought the Tigers were a better team but it will be all good for the Giants cause they are in the National League after all. I hate to see it end so quickly wanna just hang on to baseball for as long as possible before the long cold winter without it. But at least us Mets fans will have Kevin Burkhardts Mets Hot Stove which starts up again on SNY November 15
 
To me,the Giants were the better team entering into this series. The ALCS hid the fact the Tigers are a streaky team as well and their bullpen is a diaster.
 
Yep, sonny and Ninja. Giants deserve this and Detroit proved streaky offensively. Verlander,Cabrera and Fielder were no match for great team pitching and Marco Scutaro!;) In the end, clutch team work is more important than players with gaudy statistics and huge contracts....hope for our Mets maybe, sonny that it isn't necessarily a long climb for our Mets to get into serious playoff contention.

Ninja, at least you get some satisfaction the Tigers turned into the Yanks, as sonny said. Wish it was a more competitive WS, six or seven games. This one isn't going to go down as a thriller by any means because it ended in a Giants sweep but congratul
tions to the Giants on a job well done.
 
Nah not at all I have no dog in this fight just thought the Tigers were a better team but it will be all good for the Giants cause they are in the National League after all. I hate to see it end so quickly wanna just hang on to baseball for as long as possible before the long cold winter without it. But at least us Mets fans will have Kevin Burkhardts Mets Hot Stove which starts up again on SNY November 15
I'm about to go into baseball withdrawal,too...oh, I hate that too but looking forward to KB's show and especially your Mets Hot Stove thread!:D
 
Congrats to the Giants! How weird that the New York Foorball Giants won the Super Bowl this year and the SG Giants (once the NY Giants) won the World Series.

To bad both teams dont play in the same city and stadium anymore.
 
Not shocked at all by the Tigers sweep. As with the Yankees showing the flaws they had all year in the ALCS,the Tigers showed the ones they had in the World Series.
If Cabrera and Fielder could be held hitless,most of the TIgers offense would go along with them. That and their bullpen proved to be their doom.
COngrats to the Giants,who were the better team and IMO,were the best team in this postseason from the start.
 
Loria has done this time and time again. If MLB wants baseball to fail in FLorida,they are doing a darn good job of it by allowing him to remain owner.
 
Blue jays are having a busy offseason. Getting a lot of players. Looks like they are trying to compete in the AL East.
 
They are..but many of thier players are the same ones that failed to gel as a team down there..I don't see it being any different up here.
 
Have to mention the passing of Marvin Miller at 95. His confrontational style made him unpopular with owners and wouldn't work in today's baesball landscape but he brought the MLB players from virtual indentured servitude bound to their teams unless traded or discarded to free agency which gave players a great say in the affairs of the game as well as far greater control over therir destinies. Arbitration, free agency, so much that Marvin Millers iron will forged by his direction of the steelworkers union that baseball players seem to take for granted today at times. A great man who even for his controversially combative personality should be in the Baesball Hall of Fame simply for how greatly his leadership helped transform the game.
 
We might gripe about the contracts of today but as you pointed out,they were basically treated like slaves until Miller stood up for them. It's a shame he wasn't put in the HOF.
 
We might gripe about the contracts of today but as you pointed out,they were basically treated like slaves until Miller stood up for them. It's a shame he wasn't put in the HOF.
Oh yes, Ninja. Ten year 200+ million dollar contracts aren't great for baseball but what existed before was truly indentured servitude even for the best players and it is the players that make the game memorable and part of the national fabric. Marvin Miller gave dignity and equal footing to the players... he revolutionized organized sports and how can he not be recognized for changing the game so inherently from an unequal exploitation to a tremendous revenue maker worth billions it is today? Marvin Miller belongs in the HOF without question.
 
Russell MArtin is going to the Pirates. It stinks but there was no way the Yankees were going to give him the money he wanted.
 
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