The Official "Big Brother 10" Discussion Thread!

[falconfan]

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IMO Jessie has made his intentions to go after Libra so clear that she's bent on getting rid of him and for the same reason no one seems so threatened by his presence.

In the backyard Memphis is telling Jessie and Michelle they need to feel out Dan and Keesha to find out which one of them is the target. (If Memphis is smart he's trying to figure out if keeping Angie would be good for him. If Memphis is the next target [and he is] keeping Angie in the house would keep a target in the house.

LMFAO I'm listening to Brian live on a chat and he was talking about how he's looking for a date to his sister's wedding and his sister wants him to bring Steven.


EDIT: Memphis just scored major points and Jessie/Michelle lost MAJOR points. Whenever they drink in the house Dan pretends to be drinking coffee because his job warned him if he misbehaves in the house they'll have to fire him. Jessie/Michelle said that they would threaten to get Dan fired by making a big stink over him doing what he's pretending not to. Memphis told them not to do that. ... These people better get Memphis out before Jessie and Michelle or they'll have no one to hold the leashes on the hounds.

Also Brian mentioned to expect a "big twist" in the chat. And the people at jokers a flipping out.

 

[falconfan]

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Angie's the biggest target in the house, how is she dangerous? If Keesha doesn't get rid of her this week there are still angry hateful bitches who will target no matter what and would never allign with her. If you don't get rid of her, she's not going to rally the whole house against you because she can't. Most of the house hates her and won't vote for her to win in the end no matter what.

Dude... why did you quote my post you didn't address anything in it. I said at this point it would be dumb to get rid of Angie but in the beginning of the week it was a good move.

 

[pokergay]

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I think Keesha is fine either way she goes. Even if Jessie goes or Angie goes and one of the 3 remaining members of JAMM gets HoH, Keesha may not even be nominated, and they may just go after Libra/April.

After this week, Keesha should go to (J/A)MM and say "Sorry, I didn't want to put either of your friends up, but April and Libra pressured me into doing it and threatened me if I didn't, so I had to." If she does something to that effect, I think JAMM will sort of forget about that and go after April/Libra before they come at her. I believe Keesha/Renny may try to pull in Jerry to create their own separate alliance (which would be completely smart on their part) and let JAMM take out ALO and then take action when they nearly destroy each other.

As for whether Jessie or Angie, I don't really care. I never cared for Angie as everyone else does, nothing just clicked with me for her. Someone said they have no clue why April was cast, I have no clue why Angie was cast. She seems to be doing nothing and given up hope, while Jessie is doing all her campaigning. It's not something she orchestrated, just something that's happened. It'd be interesting if she stays around if she gets fired up by that and actually tries to play this game.

 

[CaptainRush]

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Also Brian mentioned to expect a "big twist" in the chat. And the people at jokers a flipping out.

Major twist? I knew one was coming. Well we all knew, but how the hell did he know? Did Grodner pull him aside on the way out? Lol, seriously. He's probably just brewing a pot.

 

[CaptainRush]

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I'm feeling really addicted to the feeds tonight. I'm about to go get my spoon and a can of icing and sit here refreshing the page every 2 minutes for a while. Murk my life...

Angie's sensative and my heart strings pull for her. She has to hide her tears too much, I wish she opened up to Memphis more unless I missed something and she did/does. I would love to see a showmance between her and Memphis... more reasons then one! Lol. But serious, I have a thing for guys who struggle with their emotions or put up a wall which is a little odd but I see that in both Memphis and Angie and I think they're perfect to comfort each other. It would be cute if they hooked up.

Also, is anyone else loving Michelle like I am? She's such a gross bitch and I love her for it! I've seen the pig tradition in action at a wedding. They'll dance for 20 minutes carrying around a damn pigs head on a platter which makes you want to drown your sorrows at the bar. It's gross and a little nauseating.

 

[aijalon18]

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^I still thinks she's weak because she doesn't seem to try to stay in the game. I'm all for a low-key game but she doesnt seem to strategize at all. I think she has the potential, she just doesn't use it.All I'm saying is she could be dangerous.

 

[CaptainRush]

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Aijalon18, judging from what I see from the show and what I get from the updates, she could be dangerous yes, but there's so much more danger lurking about. Jessie is a better competitor then Angie by far at the moment, making him a better target for the week for the opposing alliance.

From here on out, Angie NEEDS to step it up. Memphis as well.

 

[falconfan]

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^I still thinks she's weak because she doesn't seem to try to stay in the game. I'm all for a low-key game but she doesnt seem to strategize at all. I think she has the potential, she just doesn't use it.All I'm saying is she could be dangerous.

Angie in a house with a handful of people who have all the power and wield it like assholes. They've destroyed her friends and they constantly attack her and all she ever does is be nice to them.

I can't even count the number of times Keesha said that Angie has always been nice to her and followed it up with saying she wants Angie out. Angie just keeps saying that she's so tired of being nice to these people... but she never stops. She tries her hardest and the meanest thing she's ever done to anyone in that house is just not talking to them. She always acts like the bigger person and just walks away. She's clearly not a confrontational person. Rather than scream she just lets all her pain bottle up inside her to the point where she's just completely hurt. She doesn't want to be in this environment... I get that. I'm a competitive person. I'd be fighting but I get why she kind of just wants out. She's smart. When she talks strategy you can tell. She's telling Memphis right now that he shouldn't put Jerry vs April (if he wins HOH) because it'll leave KOLA intact because they'll easily just pick off Jerry. (which is precisely what they were saying earlier). I mean she's not a bad player at this point she's just tired of running into the same brick wall.

On the update front:

The HOH room is full of the seven who are doing major seed planting (IMO). General chat about how Angie is so much nicer than Jessie, how much of an ass Jessie's going to be in sequester, etc.

Angie said she wants to talk to Dan because he seems upset with her and she doesn't know why. (Last night Keesha told Dan that Angie tried to get him BDed. There was much debate on this on Jokers. No one seems to have witnessed this conversation. Some people say Keesha lied. Some people say it probably just wasn't on the feeds at the time.) Angie's advising Memphis to talk to Dan and Ollie because they're the most receptive on the other side.

They think Michelle and Jessie's behavior will get them targeted over Memphis (you'd think... but no).

Memphis: The thing is they're almost, and I've already told ya this, nothing against you, fucking stupid-

Angie: They are stupid.

Memphis: If they don't try to get Jessie out now.

Angie and Memphis now talking about how dumb they'd be to keep Jessie. Memphis notes that they'll be never be able to talk to Jessie but they'd be able to cut deals with Angie.

Angie: I may pretend right now that I'm not going to talk with people or whatever but if I have to I will walk my happy ass up to Libra and be like 'I don't like you. You don't like me but the fact of the matter is we can work together."

Memphis: Exactly Jessie would be like 'Whatever, whatever you're all going down!' 'Jessie you realize you can only get rid of one person a week.' Jessie's like 'You're all going down! Wait a minute I can only make one of you leave... fuck.'

Angie: They really need to start thinking it's the lesser of the two evils and I've tried to make myself grossly underestimated by everybody so that I can be seen as not a threat to anybody.

Memphis: Well that's the one thing you've got going.

Angie: I will be shocked. Like shocked. And Jessie will be like 'I know I was joking about going home but I really didn't want to.' It's like I have these moments, like all day today I didn't even want to try but now like tonight it's like well as long as I'm here, I might as well try.

Some exchange about talking to Keesha. Angie says she doesn't think Keesha trusts her so there's basically no point

Angie: See this has kinda been my strategy. As long as Keesha still thinks I'm going home and Jessie thinks the same way and I can get Dan just to start planting that seed and then Jessie has an outburst tomorrow it's like I won't even have to go around talking to people who wouldn't even listen to me anyway

(I'm telling you, my girl is smart. )

Memphis advising Angie to just honestly sit and talk to Dan and tell him she really wants to stay and ask him what the consensus of the house is and he'll tell her. Dan will be honest and if it's been brought up by people he'll tell her. Memphis said that if there isn't a chance it can't hurt anything.

Angie says that she keeps flip flopping on what to do. Memphis is definitely encouraging her to try. Angie says that talking to Dan is definitely on her agenda because he wants to see why he's upset.

Angie: Because you know they get brainwashed when they go up in that room.

She confirms that she did try to get Dan put up in a last ditch effort because he's the only one Keesha didn't give her word to. She correctly guesses that's what Keesha said to Dan to make him upset with her. She says she's just going to tell him that it was a last ditch effort to get herself off the block and hope he understands.

Angie says that she feels bad that she told Jerry he was next on the houses pecking order after Dan but she was frustrated and it was true (I don't know what she's referring to here but I'm sure CBS will make sure to include it)

 

[falconfan]

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^ Seriously, what is that crazy bitch thinking?!?! Where does she get off making fun of Angie like that?

She's a fucking black ass bitch white wannabe. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if she even hates her own race. Let's not forget she's married to a white dude anyways. Cunt probably hates anything that isn't white!

Well that seems entirely baseless

 

[falconfan]

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Well then, I just don't understand WHAT her problem is! You'd think by her being a minority, she'd understand and appreciate other minorities, but hell no. WHAT exactly makes Libra more AMERICAN than Angie? Hell, back in the slavery days... Libra wouldn't even be considered a human being, nonetheless an AMERICAN. I HATE some minorities thinking that they're more "better" or more "american" than other minorities.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but Libra has made fun of Angie's nationality several times before.

I'm not reigniting this. But if your scroll back you'll see my opinion on this is clearly stated. That being said saying that someone married someone white because they want to be white is just plain ignorant.

 

[falconfan]

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None more ignorant than mimicking an Asian's person wide eyes

None more ignorant than calling an African American "colored"

None more ignorant than saying only mexicans and black guys are involved in any sort of criminal activity

None more ignorant that calling a Korian (Angie) a Chinese bitch

Precisely and one people doing ignorant things doesn't make it any better for someone else to do something ignorant.

 

[falconfan]

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My god. Libra is sowing seeds like she's a freaking farmer also April has begun referring to her group as the "good people"

 

[aijalon18]

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Well then, I just don't understand WHAT her problem is! You'd think by her being a minority, she'd understand and appreciate other minorities, but hell no. WHAT exactly makes Libra more AMERICAN than Angie? Hell, back in the slavery days... Libra wouldn't even be considered a human being, nonetheless an AMERICAN. I HATE some minorities thinking that they're more "better" or more "american" than other minorities.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but Libra has made fun of Angie's nationality several times before.

Personally I'd be less offended if another minority made comments about my race. Maybe that's just me. But you're response to Libra is very offensive to black people. Why does she have to be a "black ass bitch?" It's been established that you don't like Libra. It actually makes it seem like your disdain for her has not all but something to do with her race. I'm not sure what you're getting at with who's more American thing. The only true Americans are Native Americans.

 

[Apollo]

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Personally I'd be less offended if another minority made comments about my race. Maybe that's just me. But you're response to Libra is very offensive to black people. Why does she have to be a "black ass bitch?" It's been established that you don't like Libra. It actually makes it seem like your disdain for her has not all but something to do with her race. I'm not sure what you're getting at with who's more American thing. The only true Americans are Native Americans.

Ok fine, i'll do it for him. As a black person myself:

Well then, I just don't understand WHAT her problem is! You'd think by her being a minority, she'd understand and appreciate other minorities, but hell no. WHAT exactly makes Libra more AMERICAN than Angie? Hell, back in the slavery days... Libra wouldn't even be considered a human being, nonetheless an AMERICAN. I HATE some minorities thinking that they're more "better" or more "american" than other minorities.

I'm not sure if you're aware, but Libra has made fun of Angie's nationality several times before.

 

[Apollo]

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Here you go Aijalon. I'm sure it's just her strategy though. She doesn't really want Angie out on a personal level. It's way different than Stevens cop joke.

The problem is aijalon and most people of color only care about white racism. Steven wasn't even being racist in the end, he explained it all. But what about Libra? Because she is suddenly black she has the ok to make fun of asians? Bullshit, that bitch is practicing racist activity, but because the crazy bitch isn't white, no one gives half a shit.

Damn, I hope they get rid of her. She is obiviously the ring leader of the idiots but people keep getting side tracked with stupid people. Backdoor that racist bitch and lets move on.

 

[aijalon18]

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Speaking as someone who is black and part Chinese I don't think it is ok for Libra to make fun of Angie's ethnicity at all. I look more black than anything else. And any person is offending my race or any other race or religion I do NOT think it is ok. I was merely saying it is a bit different for a person of another color to do it.

 

[aijalon18]

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Dude, chill out. Its seems like you're always offended by comments made towards African Americans. What about the shit Libra has done and said about Angie for being Korean? I guess that's okay because "she's a minority too". By your reasoning, Angie could call Libra the N-word and all will be well because it's less offensive than if a Caucasian person said it.

Also, the reason why I hate Libra has NOTHING to do with her race. You came up with this conclusion just because I said "black ass bitch"? Please! Actually, I did enjoy Libra when the season first started because she knew how to play the game. But now I've realized what a childish bitch she is. I detest her because of HER PERSONALITY! She acts like she runs the house. She also tries to segregate individuals within the house... as if this is high school and people must remain in their "cliques" or else. With the quality of her being a OBVIOUS racist towards Asians and possessing an asinine personality... LIBRA is BY FAR the WORST person in the house!

It is not ok for Libra or Angie to make racist comments about anyone. I guess I didn't make that clear at first. And calling someone a "black ass bitch" is racist kid, so it does make you look racist.

 

[falconfan]

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Yes. This happens every season.

As for malignant floaters vs benign floaters. I agree with your categorizations but perhaps the definitions need some tinkering?

Well there's no concrete definitions. It's all shades of grey. One could even argue that in season 7 Chilltown were the true floaters. Will termed those who were in neither season 6 nor CT 'floaters' but they were in reality more like a formal oppositions to season 6. It was Will and Boogie who hid under the cover of war, playing both sides. This would make Boogie a floater as well and clearly a malignant one.

Also towards the end of the game as the sides break down the lines tend to be blurry between actual floaters and weak alliance members. people who are (to me) not floaters but weak alliance members (ie Cowboy who was a clearly stated "Horseman" or April who'd pledged allegiance to the "Friendship" )

...but there are exceptions (you knew I would do this right? ) Jun and Allison were "allies" in a way I've never seen two floaters play this game before. They were cold blooded assassins and this allowed them to understand the power they could wield instead of joining one side of the House. They swung back and forth each week, throwing competitions and evicting whoever the HOH wanted and then at F6, they cackled over the fact that their 2 votes could control who stayed and who went home and they used that power to swing Erika to their side and take control of the house at F5 (the way a F5 power play SHOULD be played). It was awesome, they were totally lying in wait and then came out at F5 with guns blazing. Floaters can work together but they need to understand the necessity of swinging between both sides of the house together, and then at the right moment, make a power move. Of course, it also helps if one floater recognizes that the other one is more hated. Jun was smarter than Allison and knew that Allison could never win the game with the jury votes, which made it easy to team up with her. Another example of floaters working together is when circumstances place them there: Zach and Jameka wanted each other out all season long and then at F4 tried to work together to take down the Donatos (too late of course).

Well I didn't see season 4. But one must wonder who was the bigger threat to Jun or the non-floaters? If Allison failed to estimate the danger of Jun that doesn't mean her best move wasn't to take her out. It means only that Allison failed to see her best move. Unless of course Allison was so unlikable that she would loose to everyone in the final four. That would mean she'd be a benign floater disguised as a malignant floater (much like Cowboy was a malignant floater disguised as a benign floater).

As for Zack and Jameeka... mark my words had they gotten one Donatto out Zack would've dropped Jameeka and taken Donatto number 2 to the finals. I don't know if Jameeka would've done the same thing because she was kinda dim but it would've been the best move for her.

 

[aijalon18]

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Kid? How dare you call me a kid! That sounds like ageism and I think you're prejudice against me and other individuals because of their age.


[note the sarcasm]

I know you think you're being but calling somebody a black ass bitch is racist. You're acting no better than Libra. I wish you would say that to a black girl and see what happens.

I can't believe BlackWolf has no problem with that.

 

[falconfan]

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Damn, I hope they get rid of her. She is obiviously the ring leader of the idiots but people keep getting side tracked with stupid people. Backdoor that racist bitch and lets move on.

I don't think she is a ring leader though. Her alliance hates her. They bash her behind her back. They only keep her around because she's a prime target for JAMM. I think Keesha is actually doing an excellent job of deflecting while Libra is more than happy to be the loudmouthed figure head. Basically Keesha is playing the Maggie to Libra's Cappy