The Official "Big Brother 10" Discussion Thread!

[falconfan]

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Okkkkaayyyy, I think I need to go scratch my eyes out after just seeing Steven's butthole.

He was clearly trying to show Jessie his "goods".

WTF are you talking about? Neither Steven nor Jessie is even in the house anymore and they never even talked or associated with each other when they were in the house. In fact Brian and Steven laugh at Jessie all the time.

 

[Lostlover]

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LoL, what?

Steven's not on the feeds anymore. He's not in the house. Where, praytell, did you see Steven's asshole?

Meanwhile, who wants to see OLLIE NAKED IN BED LAST NIGHT AFTER FUCKING APRIL?!

Yeah... me neither.

Yes, I did see it posted on a blog I visit for "entertainment". I'm a little hesitant about giving the blog out... don't need whoever runs Blogspot to yank the blog.

Basically Manchelle is egging Steven on and Jessie is disgusted at what he sees. Steven gets up bending in front of Jessie and Keesha letting "out" his business out in the open and covers himself up with a towel, barely.

The video ends with Manchelle saying "I see your penis" as Steven is pulling up his trunks on the age of a lawn chair.

Someone please burn that lawn chair.

 

[Lostlover]

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Sorry the screen caps came in a little pixelated. Actually... not too sorry.

This was probably as disgusting as seeing Adam naked last season.

This was right after he started covering himself up a little better.

 

[Lostlover]

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I repeat:

It's a stretch to assume that there is something essential about being Catholic! This is very inflammatory language, Jack. For the basis of your assumption to have any merit (and I assure you, it doesn't), it would have to mean that all Catholics are sexist. And this is simply not true.

And I would be careful about applying the gender issue here if I were you, because you exhibited some of that bias in your posts on Hillary, where you repeatedly referred to her as a "bitch" among other things.

Of course, as a Catholic myself, I don't think all Catholics are sexist. Come on now, give me some credit.

When I used the word bitch it had absolutely nothing to do with her gender. We've all called males "bitch" too or at least I have.

Calling Ollie's big nipples "bitch tits" wasn't an affront to women either.

 

[Lostlover]

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I would, if you would stop making statements like: "My experiences with Catholics buttress this belief."

And also, it's not being sexist as perhaps following what's in the Catholic doctrine about woman aiding man (Eve coming from Adam's rib, etc.).

Again, my family is Catholic and and so is my grandmother. I don't think my grandmother is sexist for being uneasy with the idea of a female president. It's moreso what she's been taught than the "I hate women" or "women are the root of all evil" routines.

 

[CaptainRush]

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Endurance Tomorrow?

Big Brother just told the houseguests that they'll be on an interior lockdown starting at 4pm BBT. There's some confusion as to whether it's a short one or a long one. April believes they'll be locked in for the rest of the night...

I would LOVE an endurance competition tommoro. I feel like this was a long ass week and things need to be shuffled around again.

 

[falconfan]

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Of course, as a Catholic myself, I don't think all Catholics are sexist. Come on now, give me some credit.

When I used the word bitch it had absolutely nothing to do with her gender. We've all called males "bitch" too or at least I have.

Calling Ollie's big nipples "bitch tits" wasn't an affront to women either.

A.) Why then would you use the fact that a person is Catholic in an attempt to provide evidence of that person being sexist.

B.) That most certainly was rooted in subtle sexist undertones in our society. "bitch" like every other word has a meaning A "Bitch" is either a man who exhibits negative traits often associated with females (ie a coward would likely be referred to as a little bitch in reference to earlier ideas that women were weaker than men. For males terms like pussy and bitch are inescapably sexist because they imply something negative about a man BECAUSE he's like a women.) or a female who is angry/overbearing/powerful. Seeing as Mrs Clinton was a women in a position of power and you wanted to insult her you chose the profanity that most fit the abstract you were angry at.... and in this case that word was 'bitch.' There's a reason you didn't call her a bastard or moron. Don't think that these things arbitrarily slip into our lexicon.

C) In the phrase "Bitch tits" bitch describes not a person but a thing "tits" Therefore it's connotation is that the thing is something a bitch (in the case clearly meant to mean a female and have an overriding negative connotation) may have. Hence it's saying that Ollie's body resembles that of a woman.... not particularly sexist to me.

 

[falconfan]

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And also, it's not being sexist as perhaps following what's in the Catholic doctrine about woman aiding man (Eve coming from Adam's rib, etc.).

Again, my family is Catholic and and so is my grandmother. I don't think my grandmother is sexist for being uneasy with the idea of a female president. It's moreso what she's been taught than the "I hate women" or "women are the root of all evil" routines.

One could very easily and probably accurately identify Catholic doctrine as sexist. That doesn't mean "Catholics" are all sexist unless you only use the term to describe those who adhere to the letter of the Catholicism to the strictest terms and believe 100% of what is under the Catholic umbrella. Considering that most people who claim to be Catholics don't even know what they supposedly believe I think that's a silly definition. And one can't assume just because elements of a certain dogma are biased all individuals born into that group will share the same bias.

And Catholic image of male vs female is not that women are "evil." They are consistently portrayed as the weaker sex (therein more likely to give into temptation). I don't think any priest would tell you that Eve was evil.

 

[Lostlover]

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OK

1. That is sexist. Multi-culturalism and religion is used all the time to justify sexism and horrible abuse of women and we should never allow that. Sexism is sexism, whether it's a person saying it or a book claiming to be the word of God.

2. For the love of God (let's say...a Catholic God)WHAT YOUR GRANDMOTHER IS TAUGHT OR BELIEVES IS NOT AN ESSENTIAL BELIEF FOR ALL CATHOLICS!

Do you remember a few years ago when those yahoos were saying things like, "I know a bi guy who cheated and left his bf for a woman, so all bi guys must be like this." Do you remember how offensive that was? That they were applying a categorical imperative -- an essentialist statement -- to what it means to be bisexual? The same logic applies here dude.

And you were on the right side back then. It would be nice if you would return.

Nik, I'm with you believe it or not. I agree totally about women should have equal rights as men. Anything less than equal rights is just backwards and archaic. That goes without saying OBVIOUSLY.

But at the same time, can you expect someone like my grandmother, born in the 1910's who has used the Bible and her religion as a crutch through her many obstacles in life to abandon it's teachings? Do you expect many people in America to stop voting on the three G's (God, guns and gays) if they're told every Sunday that it's a sin to vote one way?

And I think it's very backwards of my grandmother to think that way. Believe me, I've been there with my mother about my grandmother's beliefs. But am I going to try to reason with my grandmother who is in her 90's about how some doctrine in the Bible is backwards? I don't think so.

I'm also not nearly as religious as she is. She'd kick my ass if we'd debate the Bible.

Does her unease with a female president make her sexist against her own gender? I don't think so. My grandmother is no self loather.

Those comments about bisexuals of course aren't true. But should I try to convince those fools that believe that to think differently? I think I could use my time better doing something else.

Remember that huge feud we had with that certain poster? If you remember, I was apprehensive talking to such a caveman. Did that mean I didn't believe in what I felt, of course not. But I know as the fool that he is, you weren't going to do any good trying to speak to him as if he understood reason. And guess what? You know who is STILL a fool shouting falsehoods about bisexuals.

Let's take this up on by pm or AOL IM because this is veering from talking about show.

 

[falconfan]

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OK

1. That is sexist. Multi-culturalism and religion is used all the time to justify sexism and horrible abuse of women and we should never allow that. Sexism is sexism, whether it's a person saying it or a book claiming to be the word of God.

2. For the love of God (let's say...a Catholic God)WHAT YOUR GRANDMOTHER IS TAUGHT OR BELIEVES IS NOT AN ESSENTIAL BELIEF FOR ALL CATHOLICS!

Do you remember a few years ago when those yahoos were saying things like, "I know a bi guy who cheated and left his bf for a woman, so all bi guys must be like this." Do you remember how offensive that was? That they were applying a categorical imperative -- an essentialist statement -- to what it means to be bisexual? The same logic applies here dude.

And you were on the right side back then. It would be nice if you would return.

In his defense dear official Catholic beliefs (like many major religions) are undoubtedly sexist. And Catholicism (unlike bisexuality) is a term used to describe people who subscribe to a set of beliefs. So to some degree it's not a fair comparison considering that their beliefs it what defines them as "Catholic" and he's criticizing beliefs.

THAT BEING SAID.... What Lost is missing here is that not all "Catholics" subscribe to the full set of Catholic beliefs and so one can't directly draw a conclusion that what one Catholic said MUST be based solely on one marginal thing associated with Catholicism. (ie we couldn't assume that Lost's vicious criticism of Dunstin curling his eyebrows MUST be because Lost is Catholic and therefore must hate gays.)

 

[CaptainRush]

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Oooh! Robyn Kass, the casting director for Big Brother, will be the co-host on Housecalls tomorrow. Should be good!

Ohhhhh I'm sooooOOooOoOOOOo calling in. It's 1-3 est right?

 

[CaptainRush]

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Never mind, google finally found it for me.

 

[CaptainRush]

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I'm soooo going to max out my long distance phone bill and call into the show tommoro to talk to Robin. Oh the money its going to cost. ><

 

[CaptainRush]

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LoL, Ollie just told Jerry that everyone in the kitchen was talking shit on him earlier.

Umm... Ollie... you might want to include yourself in that group. You were talking just as much shit as anyone, buddy.

Anyway, I wonder why he's telling this to Jerry? Trying to get Jerry to blow up on people and lose their votes before tomorrow?

For sure, it's smart of him t do that anyway.

 

[tommy_2_0_0_0]

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Tranny Lion's baby talk is really starting to annoy me. I'm only putting up with her to get Ollie and Jerry out, then she has to go.

 

[falconfan]

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Does her unease with a female president make her sexist against her own gender? I don't think so. My grandmother is no self loather.

That's just it though man it's not about "Self-loathing" It's about people believing there is a certain place they SHOULD be in society. It's not uncommon at all for members of ANY group to buy into stereotypes about the very groups they belong to. This is why I get frustrated with simplistic distinctions. People are under the impression that "Racism" is believing one (or more) race is bad. Or that "Sexism" is believing that women are bad. Or that "Homophobia" is believing that homesexuals are bad. It's all WAY more complicated than that. It's not about simple distinctions. It's about underlying perceptions about what it means to be gay, black, white, female, etc... That's the real way things work with race, gender, and sexual orientations. There are ideas about what these things are what they mean and these often unjust and derogatory linkages become embedded in a societal perception (often becoming prevalent in television, movies, plays, books, and other societal constructions) and often people from that society. And when these linkages from society are able to seep into a persons conciousness and perception of groups than that person takes up a racist/sexist/homophobic method of thinking.

So if one says that someone is sexist it doesn't mean that they hate/loathe women (as common terminology implies). It moreso just means that they posses certain notions (like women belong in the kitchen) about a gender that are incorrect, offensive, and/or (often) demeaning.

 

[falconfan]

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LoL, Ollie just told Jerry that everyone in the kitchen was talking shit on him earlier.

Umm... Ollie... you might want to include yourself in that group. You were talking just as much shit as anyone, buddy.

Anyway, I wonder why he's telling this to Jerry? Trying to get Jerry to blow up on people and lose their votes before tomorrow?

I think the DR or April probably told him to try and get Jerry to blow up. Ollie's really not smart enough to think of this themselves.

And has anyone else seen the promos about Jerry not going down "without a fight" They're totally going to try and make it seem like Jerry has been able to save himself or some shit that tries and make him look capable and not like a pathetic asshole.

 

[falconfan]

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April/Ollie bragging to each other that nobody else in the house knows they've been fucking... ugh.

They're bragging that all of America is rooting for them and they're certain that they're being portrayed in a good light, LoL. Idiots. Idiots!

I geuss they didn't Amy make the porn comment then huh?

 

[Lostlover]

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Oh, and does anyone think it's rude the way Ollie wears these sunglasses during all the ceremonies? It's as if he's afraid he might show some emotion and wears the glasses to mask it or something. Totally annoying and totally rude.

Between that, calling Dan a "faggot" and referring to Julie as "Juliemama," I really just can't stand him He's such a poser dumbass.

I think he's an idiot. Just like I do Jessie. I don't know how you could take him seriously when he has no respect for himself.

... in addition to being a walking, talking and breathing hypocrite.

 

[falconfan]

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Now Jerry's blabbing to April/Ollie how he's going to be really close with them in the Jury House and "fuck the rest."

He says that he'll strongarm Libra into not voting for Michelle, Keesha or Memphis to win the game and "none of those assholes will win."

Fuck. Off. Jerry.

wow the three slut mafia are all so delusional.

A.) Why is he planning to be in the jury house
B.) Does he not realize he has literally NOTHING to bargain with after he's been evicted... like does he really think he can boss Libra around somehow? Has he like not met her?!