The Official "Big Brother 10" Discussion Thread!

[TheGM27]

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It seems pretty sure that the slut is goign home.

I will not be happy until Julie says by a vote of 3-to-2, April you are evicted. In this game anything can happen and Ollie & Michelle are really working on trying to get the third vote in order to keep April in the house.

 

[CaptainRush]

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I was on Housecalls again today!

I said that Dan's pre-show interviews were very harsh, he was full of strong opinions and he seemed like the kind of person that most people would dislike. Then I asked Robyn if she was surprised by his popularity.

Then, as usual, Gretchen cut me off, the phone went dead and I missed the answer, LoL

I so wanted to talk to Robyn, but I realized the problem wasn't the website (even though sometimes it doesn't agree with me) it was my computer, it's fucked.

I hope Robyn comes on again soon.

 

[Apollo]

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Oh and I forgot, Big Brother is purely about winning stupid competitions right? Of course. Because that worked out so well for Hardy, Nakomis, Janelle (twice), James (both of them), Ryan...

We've had this discussion many times on this board sighbut here we go again: Big Brother is a game of social strategy. The best player in the show's history (Will) never had to win a single competition and in fact, actively threw every competition. I seriously think some of you have never watched an episode of this show because you seem to have no idea how it's played (certainly no idea of how it's played intelligently).

This isn't MTV, Julie isn't TJ Lavin, and Memphis and Renny aren't CT and Beth. You know?

Thats what him and LostLover seem to be missing. This isnt at all about winning competitions. Neither Memphis or Dan has the finese Will had, but they are essentially playing the same type of game, minus the powerful manipulating.

To aijalon, people think Dan is weak because he WANTS them to think he is weak. He has said this multiple times on the show.

 

[falconfan]

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This isn't MTV, Julie isn't TJ Lavin, and Memphis and Renny aren't CT and Beth. You know?

No I didn't know. Does this mean that Keesha isn't Tanya and that Dan isn't Derrik?

 

[aijalon18]

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And the funny thing is, even most the people who have won a few comps and made it to the F2, have shown that the comp winning itself was not the defining factor because:

BB2: Nicole won more comps than Will (who won nothing) Yet Will wins with 5-2 vote.

BB3: Both Lisa and Danielle won 2 competitions each, so this is a draw. Oh but Jason? The guy who won 3 comps? Yeah, evicted at F3.

BB4: Allison won more comps than Jun. Yet Jun wins in a 6-1 vote.

BB6: Ivette won more comps than Maggie. Yet Maggie wins in a 4-3 vote.

BB7: Boogie and Erika almost won the same amount: he won 4 comps in total, she won 3. And if you count that Endurance comp that she gave to Danielle and the re-do HOH that Erika won the first time, then Erika actually won more competitions (5) than Boogie. Yet Boogie won in a 6-1 vote.

BB8: Danielle won more comps than Dick (tying Janelle for the POV record). Yet Dick won in a 5-2 vote.

BB9: Ryan won more comps than Adam. Yet Adam won in a 6-1 vote.

The only year when a competition beast actually won was BB4 with Drew. And even then, Drew and Cowboy managed to make it to F2 over Nakomis who was also a strong competitor (3 HOH, 1 POV) and they did so by teaming up with Diane at F5 and pulling off a strategic coup. It was Diane's brilliant move at that time (her offense was stronger than Karen's defense) that allowed Drew and Cowboy to stay in the game, not Drew's competition wins. Had she not done it, Drew would have been promptly evicted that week.

This doesnt prove anything except people are sore losers. They dont vote for the best competitor or strategist. And also no woman will win against a man in the end any time soon. Renny might because she's old. But i still doubt even that. The ladies only have a shot of winning if they bring another girl.

 

[aijalon18]

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Oh and I forgot, Big Brother is purely about winning stupid competitions right? Of course. Because that worked out so well for Hardy, Nakomis, Janelle (twice), James (both of them), Ryan...

We've had this discussion many times on this board sighbut here we go again: Big Brother is a game of social strategy. The best player in the show's history (Will) never had to win a single competition and in fact, actively threw every competition. I seriously think some of you have never watched an episode of this show because you seem to have no idea how it's played (certainly no idea of how it's played intelligently).

There are other (lamer) shows that are purely about winning competitions. This isn't one of them. This isn't MTV, Julie isn't TJ Lavin, and Memphis and Renny aren't CT and Beth. You know?

**Removed by Moderator** I know Big Brother is not ALL about winning comps but neither Dan or Memphis have shown any sort of strategy either. They both have been trying to win most competitions they have both failed miserably most of the time.

Will was a great strategist. He had no intention of winning any competition aside from prizes. These 2 dunces have merely snuck by on luck. They have persuaded no one to do anything. They havent influenced nominations or a vote on their own. Keesha and America saved Memphis to use him. He didnt save himself. If he did that would be something. Dan gamewise hasnt been great.
And Big Brother is not simply a game of social strategy. Lots of people make it to the end based on luck. The winners have not all been social strategists.

You cant disregard competitions. There are pivotal moments when people you are aligned with need to win them. Your condescending attitude toward competitions is unwarranted. They are not the only thing but they are important. It's quite possible that 2 people that formed an alliance could switch off winning HOH every week and get rid of the whole house one by one, and no amount of swimming lesson bullshit would change that.

 

[aijalon18]

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Thats what him and LostLover seem to be missing. This isnt at all about winning competitions. Neither Memphis or Dan has the finese Will had, but they are essentially playing the same type of game, minus the powerful manipulating.

To aijalon, people think Dan is weak because he WANTS them to think he is weak. He has said this multiple times on the show.

The only thing Dan threw was the earhtquake thing. He's just terrible. Not Ollie terrible but not great. He said he was gonna start throwing things at one point but after the Jerry incident he has thrown anything. And before the earthquake comp he wasnt throwing things. I havent heard him say hes throwing things recently. But if he has hes prolly lying. That fool has been giving it his all for a while now.

 

[aijalon18]

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Excuse me. I didn't start the religious and political bickering, I was merely responding to it. And it all came out of something that had to do with someone in the House.

And who are you anyway? I don't remember a single post from you in this thread until now.

Hahaha I know, i was thinking who rattled his cage?

 

[Apollo]

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**Removed by Moderator**..I know Big Brother is not ALL about winning comps but neither Dan or Memphis have shown any sort of strategy either. They both have been trying to win most competitions they have both failed miserably most of the time.

Will was a great strategist. He had no intention of winning any competition aside from prizes. These 2 dunces have merely snuck by on luck. They have persuaded no one to do anything. They havent influenced nominations or a vote on their own. Keesha and America saved Memphis to use him. He didnt save himself. If he did that would be something. Dan gamewise hasnt been great.
And Big Brother is not simply a game of social strategy. Lots of people make it to the end based on luck. The winners have not all been social strategists.

You cant disregard competitions. There are pivotal moments when people you are aligned with need to win them. Your condescending attitude toward competitions is unwarranted. They are not the only thing but they are important. It's quite possible that 2 people that formed an alliance could switch off winning HOH every week and get rid of the whole house one by one, and no amount of swimming lesson bullshit would change that.

I cannot speak for Memphis, but I know Dan has not tried to win any competition except for this latest veto competition. Which he won by the way.

Not to mention the last HoH, they both obviously threw the competition. Dan waited, and made sure that none of his opponets were left standing before he knocked himself out.

 

[Apollo]

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The only thing Dan threw was the earhtquake thing. He's just terrible. Not Ollie terrible but not great. He said he was gonna start throwing things at one point but after the Jerry incident he has thrown anything. And before the earthquake comp he wasnt throwing things. I havent heard him say hes throwing things recently. But if he has hes prolly lying. That fool has been giving it his all for a while now.

Are we watching the same show? Do you like put on your ear muffs when he is in the diary room or something? He hasn't thrown anything except the earthquake competition?!?

Are you like lostlover in hiding or something? A mentally disabled person could see he threw the last HoH competition. He was planning on throwing the latest POV, but when everyone else left, he knew he needed to win to keep Jerry from winning.

 

[Apollo]

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I have a good list of 90's pop song Black Wolf. I think we should just start humming.

I agree Nik, I was thinking of starting with some Nirvana.

 

[tommy_2_0_0_0]

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Great
After being on slop for weeks, this might be the competition that finally kills Jerry.

HAHAHAHA! I love it!

 

[The Warmth]

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Don't take this the right way, but sometimes you can be a real fucking idiot.

Well someone FINALLY comes around.

*yawn* This week has been awfully boring, and while I would love for this to happen, I have a feeling Memphis or Dan winning HoH will make next week even less entertaining.

 

[aijalon18]

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Nik, You know I can't believe you got so worked up. But using other people agreeing with you to bolster your opinion is pointless. Just because a few other people here cosign your shit doesn't make it right. On other boards there are tons of people who agree with me but I don't need them to affect what I think.

I will point out that of every argument you never concede and look at things from anyone else's perspective once your mind is made up. You just argue and argue and argue. Which is fine but you don't have all the answers. All you have is opinions. Just like all I have is opinions. No one knows what each player is really thinking when they make certain moves.

There's no need to make such stark judgments for people not agreeing with you on the merits of a game. It's like everyone who isnt convinced by you, or choose to argue how you argue, is stupid and that's not fair or right. Everyone here is not on the debate team nor should they have to be without being attacked and forced to build a court case out of every opinion.

Honestly, I'm very surprised that you came at me like that. Annoyed or fed up or not it was so unnecessary at this point. "I'm not upset but... you're a fucking idiot?" That's a bit harsh

 

[aijalon18]

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Weird that there's already an endurance. Probably becaues they got rid of the first one. This is the right week to put it though since there's 7 people left. 9 people left, 7 people left, 5 people left, 3 people left.



I do agree that winning competitions is a skill and part of a good competitor but in some situations, it's smarter to throw competitions.

Dan said in the DR that he threw the POV competition the 2nd week, the one Michelle won with the liscense plate. He also said he threw the 3rd and 4th HOH.

Memphis has said he wanted to keep blood off his hands as long as possible. He could've won the honey competition and the onion one if he wanted and maybe the last HOH. If he went out and won every competition, he'd be gone by now. And saying he only stayed because more people wanted Jessie out, that's the same for every eviction. He didn't have to do anything since Jessie was self destructing. Playing hard when you don't have to can get you booted. Jessie might've been safe if he didn't play too hard.

If Memphis/Dan aren't the best players this season, who are? Maybe Keesha but I know you hate her guts and wouldn't say that. You probably think Libra because you like her but she was 5th out and got voted out the first week she was put up.

Honestly I dont think anyone is that great. But I'd say Keesha is at the top for now. SHe's the most total package gamer. Even though I don't like her and I don't agree with all the reasons she's still there, I'm gonna be honest. I did like Libra but unfortantely she got too big a target on her.

 

[tommy_2_0_0_0]

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Buh-bye Thunder Cunt!!!!

 

[Apollo]

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What a beautiful week this has been.

 

[tommy_2_0_0_0]

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Now we have to hope Ollie won't win HOH. Oh, what the hell am I talking about? Ollie hasn't won ANYTHING! I don't forsee him breaking his streak this week.

 

[Apollo]

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i think Dan is in it to win this one. He came prepared.

 

[tommy_2_0_0_0]

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Oh boy. It's going to be tough to keep our top four off the block with TWO evictions next week. Even if Dan won HoH tonight, he could still be put up next Thursday (hopefully with a chance to win the Veto, but that's a big risk...)