The Official "Big Brother 11" Discussion Thread!

[falconfan]

I agree. I can't get mad at Jeff for kicking Russ out. It's probably best for him. But the fact that they assume just because these people SAY they won't target him that they won't is just DUMB. He needs to play within the realm of reality and realize people can and will go back on deals... you know like he's about to do.

 

[falconfan]

Russ better be careful not to be too rude to Kevin or Nat because either of them could be the vote to save him.

 

[falconfan]

If Jeff and Jordan are good players, they would absolutely use this opportunity to get Russell out. They've been given a second chance to do what they should have done last week.

And if Lab Lady is a good player, she will convince them not to do backdoor Russell, and then corral Russell and Kevin for F5 deal to split up J&J.

Personally, I'm hoping Lab Lady is a good player and J&J aren't.

Agreed. Michele needs to do her part in pieces though. She needs to first get Jeff not to use the veto. THEN after that's said and done pull Russ and Kevin into a final 3. I'm not optimisitc though.

 

[jonnyj]

If Russ goes up, him going home isnt a done deal. Lets say whoever gets taken off, for arguments sake Kevin, Michele and Russ can strike a deal with Kev to vote Nat out and get rid of J/J. It'd be smarter for Kevin to do that since he has a higher chance of beating Russ/Michele in the final 2.

 

[Adrock-JD]

I don't blame Jeff for wanting to get Russell out this week. This is the time to do it.

However, he's an IDIOT if he thinks he can really trust Natalie and Kevin. A complete idiot.

Exactly. They are coming after him for sure. What's the big deal with Russell so soon?

Maybe he wants someone in the jury who doesn't hate his guts?

 

[Bidude117]

Damn, I would so love a Michele, Kevin, and Russell final 3!! It would make an excellent ending to this season.

 

[falconfan]

^^ That would be best case scenario. However, even if Jeff uses the veto and puts up Russ, Lab Lady might still be able to use that to get Russ and herself to offer Kevin a F5 deal to split up J&J.

I just don't think Kevin woudl feel compelled to save Russel unless N/J/J's final three deal weighs too heavily on him. That's an angle that they might want to play up.

 

[falconfan]

The way Jeff and Jordan are acting right now reminds me a bit of Dan and Memphis last season. Remember when they stabbed Keesha in the back and fed her to the wolves at Final 4? It's sort of what Jeff and Jordan are doing right now to Russell/Michele.

The closer you get to the money, the more willing you are to play dirty.

The difference being that Dan and Memphis were smart enough not to do that when there was someone who was fully capable of winning competitions in the house still. Jerry won the final 5 HOH forcing them to evict Renny. Then they stabbed Keesha in teh back because they were confident they could beat Jerry. This is a totally different situation. It's not like A) it's Nat and Lydia who are paper weights B)Jeff can win HOH. They're dependent on Jordan beating Kevin and Michele to be safe... that's way different than just beating Jerry and all the while KNOWING you're playing him, rather than being played BY the otuside person trying to weasle into their alliance for safety.

Edit: Also Dan and Memphis worked hard to hide how close they were to each other. Memphis hung out with Jerry alot in the end game and Keesha, Renny, and Dan had a final three deal. Where J&J just hang it out there.

 

[Lovegame]

like someone said if Russell still goes up, he might not go home. he has Michele's vote to stay hopefully.

and then just convince Kevin if he stays, all 3 need to target J&J next week.

which they will because it's those 3 in the HoH vs Jordan. their odds are very good.

 

[Bidude117]

Awww, all this Memphis, Dan, Keesha, and Renny talk makes me miss them.

I hope they'll return for an All-Stars season some day. They all knew it was just a game and hardly took anything personally. However, Keesha had every right to be mad at Memphis for keeping that bastard, Jerry, in the game.

 

[Aratron]

Yeah I wouldn't compare J&J to Dan & Memphis at all Kennylicious. The latter were two of the best players of all time and fully deserved their F2 spots.

What? I never thought one of the best players of all time would earn 0 votes lol

 

[jonnyj]

Jeff, Jordan, Kevin, Michele and Natalie are talking about 90210 in the kitchen.

Russell has segregated himself to the green room. He looks upset.

JORDAN: "What does 90210 mean?"

Lord. Stupid girl.

Poor Russell, I wish I was there to comfort him/

 

[Aratron]

^^ That's what happens when one of the best players sits in the F2 with another one of the best players...who also happens to be slightly better.

That Memphis is still one of the best players of all time despite receiving 0 votes says less about him than it does about the gameplay quality of the vast majority of BB players.

Wow okay... for me he was just Dan's follower and let's not talk about his horrendous performance in the finale.

 

[falconfan]

What? I never thought one of the best players of all time would earn 0 votes lol

You know who else got 0 votes... the 103 other contestants who never even made it to the final two. Memphis made moves, won comps, nurtured trusts and kept his head down when he needed to and it got him further than many people who came before him. Granted the jury didn't give him much respect but getting there counts for something.

 

[falconfan]

LoL @ Russell trying to make Jeff feel guilty.

As he should.

Also points for Michele and Russel for tag team anti-N/K bouts.

Did they really take Michele's sheets. I read that they were considering trying to get Jeff to BD Michele instead. Is this part of such a plan?

 

[falconfan]

Russell to the DR.

Kevin and Natalie are in the backyard with Jeff. (Jordan told them to go out there and see if they can talk Russell into using the POV.)

NATALIE: Is the plan still on?

JEFF: I think so. What are my assurances?

NATALIE: If Kevin or I win HOH next week, you're not going up.

JEFF: Not even going up?

NATALIE: Not even going up.

JEFF: So then you'd have to put up Jordan and Michele. Or each other.

NATALIE: Yeah.

KEVIN: You are not our target.

JEFF: Who is your target?

KEVIN and NATALIE: Michele.

JEFF: If I save you and I get put up, I'm coming back with a vengeance. I'm telling you that. If I do this, you guys are getting straight up SAVED.

NATALIE: I'm indebted to you.

KEVIN: And I'm equally indebted to you if Russell goes home, 'cause I know he's coming after me.

JEFF: Well I have reason to believe Russell and I have reason to NOT believe Russell, but at this point it's like that with everybody.

NATALIE: Well, I can tell you the one hundred percent truth. You will not go up next week if I win HOH.

JEFF: Not even backdoored?

NATALIE: Nope. I've got your back.

Jeff is such a moron. If you're gonna evict Russ because he's threat that's one thing. If you're going to evict him because of this drivel.... ugh.

Jeff to the DR... please??? please????

 

[Bidude117]

That dumbass, Jeff, better not fall for it!!!

 

[falconfan]

Exactly. Well said.

What made BB10 so remarkable was the fact that we had two awesome players like Dan and Memphis working together because their interests coincided, but also making subtle moves that diverged from the common goal, because it was best for each of them individually. You're lucky to get that kind of gameplay in ONE finalist per season on BB, so to have two of them end up in the finals made for the best ending this show has ever given us (and not likely to be repeated by this year's shallow pool of strategists).

One must not forget to credit Keesha for that season too. Girl had her game on, though she was a bit too emotional and it gave her a blindspot. At the end of the day the fact they kept her, a girl who'd won several comps, over Renny, who'd done relatively little comp wise the final 5 week is a testament to her game.

 

[The Warmth]

Sigh.

If Russel goes out this week, Michelle needs to hope and pray that Kevin realizes there's a power couple about to ream their way to the finals, divert his attention from Michelle, and work to get one of the Jtards out. I want him to win next week's HOH so Michelle can hopefully win the F4 HOH.

 

[The Warmth]

BB10 was simply an amazing season. It had the drama without the trash (as seen in BB9), and some of the better players of the entire series. Plus, I am in love with Keeshbeesh and Libs.