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The Official "Big Brother 11" Discussion Thread!

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Blueboy369 said:
WOW...Drama! I like the way Jeff say's he didn't do anything, Meanwhile he's talking shit about Russel behind his back.
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You know I have to say that's one thing that annoys me about this show and shows like Real World... the cast members all act like no one is allowed to vent. If someone is loud and obnoxious or just rubs you the wrong way sometimes you need to event and I don't think that makes you "two faced" or "talking behind someone's back" I think it makes you a normal human being because even if someone annoys me I'm not going to go up to them and say 'You know what you annoy me. Change your personality please.' No you just vent and get on with it.

I feel like it is very different in a game like BB than a RW situation though what with the voting. So it was kind of a irrelevant tangent, but I enjoyed it.
 
Nik2 said:
1. She doesn't look 18 and she's a bad liar, and

2. She's done nothing but talk about game and number-of-votes since she's been in there! That hardly screams naive. If she wants to appear like a dumb 18 year old, she should talk about things dumb 18 year olds talk about. Like Twilight and that sexless girly looking guy in it.
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LOL! She is a terrible liar. And OMG yes! All she does is talk numbers this and numbers that. She has NO personality whatsoever!

And LOL about Twilight. He is very feminine looking that main guy. Maybe he could give some of his looks to his female costar who looks a little too manish for my tastes.
 
Kennylicious said:
RUSSELL: "Someone fucking told Braden. Someone leaked it out. I've been watching Braden. He's usually happy, right? He usually talks to the group. He's quiet, threw his pillow. He's pissed. Braden knows. Someone has told him. The only person who's been in that room with him is ol' boy Ronnie. He is shitting bricks right now. He's the only one who talks to EVERYONE. He's fucking nervous. I could read his body language at the chair. The dude was scared. What if Ronnie is just exchanging information with both sides telling us both 'I'm working for you, I'm working for you.' I'm telling you, Braden knows. If Lydia didn't tell Jordan and Jordan didn't leak it to Braden, then it was someone else... and it's him."
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Maybe he's not as dumb as I think... I still don't like him
 
aijalon18 said:
These people are so ridiculous. I cant believe there's so much infighting btwn team members. Shouldnt all team members be planning/working together?
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Why would you think that? Wouldn't you want the people who CAN nominate you to be your allies and be more secure in the fact your enemies lacked teh ability to nominate you???

I never expected them to play in cliques, just like the teams self-destructed in 9. They force them into these groups with people they don't like in a game that's still an individual games. All of Grodner's twists become completely irrelevant by week 2, don't see why this should be different.
 
falconfan said:
Why would you think that? Wouldn't you want the people who CAN nominate you to be your allies and be more secure in the fact your enemies lacked teh ability to nominate you???

I never expected them to play in cliques, just like the teams self-destructed in 9. They force them into these groups with people they don't like in a game that's still an individual games. All of Grodner's twists become completely irrelevant by week 2, don't see why this should be different.
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Here's what it is for me personally. It's the rule that if one person in your group wins HoH then you're all safe and can't be nominated. That's an actual rule. Having alliances helps you for sure but that safety isn't certain like it is within your team. That's why I personally am having so much of a problem seeing them self destruct within their own teams already. I knew it was meant to happen, I've seen every season since 4 but so fast? Wouldn't you want to hang on to your guaranteed safety for as long as possible while still making other alliances as well? I mean you don't have to like your boss at work but if you want to keep your job you put up with their crap. Same thing. You don't have to like your teammates but for the time being if you want to stay in the house at least ACT like you like them.
 
aijalon18 said:
Was the capital "no" necessary smart guy?[-X True we dont know when teams are gonna dissolve. But it would be dumb to want your teammate out first. Just for numbers sake. You have more chance of HOH safety while teams are still intact. For example, if Jordan doesnt save Braden, who she might need to have around longer so she doesnt spend the entire game at the goons mercy, she's screwed. Right now it is prudent for everyone to try to keep all their team members around I think you are very wrong Nik bickering of bullshit is the last thing people should be doing. Also, Ronnie deciding to throw Chima under the bus so quickly is idiotic. He needs someone to temper his insanity. Michele's laissez faire gameplay will only help her not the team.

ANd I didnt say they shouldnt be feeling out other teams. That makes perfect sense. But it should be 2nd at this point to keeping the clique together.
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Disagree. While what you're saying makes intuitive sense it's not supported by BB history. Whenever there have been pairs or groups the quickest way to guarantee your safety was for everyone else in your group to fall off the face of the earth and let the concept of attacking intact groups dominate nominations *Cough* Janelle * Cough * Dan * Cough * Ryan * Cough*

The intelligent move is not to protect anyone. Because someone like Jordan, who could slate herself as the 'weak' member of her group and try to swing herself once she's a loner to campaign to hard for the sake of Braedan MAYBE winning an immunity challenge is only goign to make peopel dislike her and overlook the fact she's 'weak' and target her anyway
 
Nik2 said:
Um excuse me, scroll back. I called Bunsen Burner Babe a while back for at least F5!
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The word I should have used was betting not calling I guess, heh. I'm willing to bet those two will go far. They don't open their mouths and they just shut up.


Oh, and yes. I'm willing to call Lydia this seasons April. That girl really will open up her legs for a vote.
 
Nik2 said:
LOL. I knew that would get your goat! ;)



I disagree. That's only true if your entire gameplay is from the Sovereign Rule Book written by BB6 Kaysar and Edited by BB6 Janelle (with a foreword by BB7 Janelle). Yeah if all you can hope for is to win HOH, then yes absolutely keep your team in tact! For Jessie for example, this might be the only play he's capable of. But it's not true for everyone and it's not a gameplay that has EVER been successful on this show. Ever. In the history of Big Brother. Ever.

A good player can rely on their social play to not be nominated even if they're not HOH (and in fact, they won't WANT to be HOH). Consider Cerebellum Chick. She's playing a totally smart under the radar game right now. Do you think if Ronnie and Chima (is that really her name??) were eliminated next, that she would even be a target? Not likely. In fact their eliminations might even make her less of a target than she seems to be now because everyone will assume she has no allies due to her team's deccimation, and they will move on to splitting up the other groups (think about BB6 and how once you lost your partner you were given a pass to the front of the line, and no one targeted you until all the other teams were split up. That's partly how Janelle and Maggie got so far). And then she won't have two smart people (with Ronnie as a potential manipulator) later in the game to worry about. And I'm not even saying this is what she should or will do, I'm just using it as an example to refute your argument that keeping the teams together is inherently beneficial for everyone.



I know you hate him but facts are facts, and the fact is, Will caused bickering in BB2 and the infighting was so fierce between certain personalities that he was allowed to skate to the finals, and he wasn't even a serious target the many weeks he was nominated! I'm not saying this always works -- you have to be crafty at it after all -- and it's too early to tell if Ronnie is doing it in a way that's going to blow up in his face or blow a path wide open for him to the finals. I'm just saying it's not as cut and dry as you're presenting it (i.e. instigating infighting = bad).:D
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There is nothign more satisfying than replying to a post... scrolling down and seeing that you've already basically said the same thing. (*8*)Love ya, Nikki
 
Nik2 said:
Photosynthesis Lady
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If she's a neuroscientist studying photosynthesis I'll need to rethink my entire veiw of plants :P I admire the effort but pace yourself dear you have a whole season ahead of you.
 
tHaTeViLmOnKeY said:
Oh hey have we done that yet? Call what group we would have been in had we been in the house? For sure I'd either be in Popular or Brains....most likely Brains.
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If I had to pick a second option as a runner up it would be popular... not to brag. I was the guy that was friends with everyone but didn't play any sports or extra activities. I think my first choice would be off-beat though... probably for lame reasons.
 
Nik, don't you have a better half on the boards? Invite him to chat with us!
 
tHaTeViLmOnKeY said:
Here's what it is for me personally. It's the rule that if one person in your group wins HoH then you're all safe and can't be nominated. That's an actual rule. Having alliances helps you for sure but that safety isn't certain like it is within your team. That's why I personally am having so much of a problem seeing them self destruct within their own teams already. I knew it was meant to happen, I've seen every season since 4 but so fast? Wouldn't you want to hang on to your guaranteed safety for as long as possible while still making other alliances as well? I mean you don't have to like your boss at work but if you want to keep your job you put up with their crap. Same thing. You don't have to like your teammates but for the time being if you want to stay in the house at least ACT like you like them.
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But no it's just the opposite you don't have to ACT like that to guarantee your safety. It doesn't matter how much Russel hates Jeff, how much Natalie hates Jeff, how much Jessie hates Jeff. He can't nominate them adn they can't nominate him.

I do wonder who the athletes would nominate if they won the next one though Jordan and some one... the meat heads only see muscle mass as a "threat" so they wouldn't really see anyone other than themselves/Braden as a threat for the most part.
 
With all this gabbing Ronnie is doing to literally every person in the house I feel like were going to have a huge blowup soon like in BB9 where everyone ganged up on Amanda but 10 times worse.
 
Kennylicious said:
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Bitch does not even look 18!! She looks like she's 28 or something. Who does she think she's fooling anyways and what's the point?
 
So this year the parts of Angie and Brian will be played by Jordan and Jeff?
 
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