The Official "Big Brother 11" Discussion Thread!

[falconfan]

We're back. It appears to be discussion or Russel. Ronnie "The peasants are revolting against him"

Jessie's warning him about the other side again. Ronnie saying that what they want is to take Russ out next week and then accept Jessie into their group. Jessie says that no ones talking to him and that Ronnie is the source of his information.

Jessie is saying that he doesn't expect Ronnie to go bat for Russel and if that's what they ALLL want then.... Lydia interrupts them.

Jessie asks Lydia to wait outside. Ronnie says Lydia scares him and gets back to Russel being a bully where Jessie is not and that's why everyone wants Russel out but not him. Jessie's emphasizing that he doesn't want to be collateral damage if they try to take out Rus and warns Ronnie not to brush Russel off in case he wins and then the feeds cut.

 

[falconfan]

Casey telling Jeff that he told Jessie it was 5 vs 5 and Jeff is repressing his clear anger at the move and just saying that Casey needs to stay true and stop leaking information

Cut's back to Jessie, who's complaining about Laura again... her REALLY hates her and I don't know why. He's just annoyed by her. "These are small potatoes they really are but they're honest potatoes."

Jessie reassures Ronnie that Russel's not after him. Now Ronnie's trying to throw Michele under the bus saying he can't get a clear answer from Michele. Now Jessie's tellign Ronnie that it'll be OK and can't go 6-4 because he's the swing vote. Jessie's insisting Kevin and Lydia would never keep Braeden but Ronnie's saying he's not sure basically he's trying to set it up so he can scapegoat them but hte plan was ruined because Lydia's there "reassuring" Ronnie she adn Kevin are sending Braden packing. Basically Ronnie's realizing Jessie's gonna realize that he turned on him.

 

[aijalon18]

There was a rumor going on online (since the beginning of the season) that Casey and Jessie knew each other before going into the House and therefore have a secret alliance (kinda like Boogie and Erika).

BB really needs to start ensuring that all the people entering the house don't know each other. This happens too often and it's annoying. This kinda shit doesn't happen on Survivor.

Obviously this is just a rumor but I read that the extent of them knowing each other is that Casey saw Jessie somewhere and took a picture with him as a fan of the show. It wasnt at all like they knew each other properly.

 

[falconfan]

Jeff's getting worried about Ronnie and Casey. He knows Casey told and that Ronnies been up in HOH since then and thinks they're working on Ronnie. Ronnie leaves HOH and Braden sees him coming "What the heck."

Cut to HOH and Rus is shouting about.... idk someone

 

[falconfan]

Heh. Ronnie is so in over his head. I love it!

Also, isn't this way more exciting than the first few weeks last season where no one challenged what the HOH wanted and everyone voted for the same person? The evictions didn't become exciting until Keesha and Libra pulled off that coup and evicted Jessie.

We should all be grateful that there's at least drama and excitement as early as week one.

Well the jocks are gonna flip on Ronnie. They'll know it's him. And if he defects the other 5 will kill him for betraying them. So basically he'll have either 5/9 people pissed if he keeps Chima and 4/9 if he keeps Braden plus I doubt they'd nominate Ronnie before Jeff and Braden who they see more as threats but they WOULD just shout and harass Ronnie.

Cut to BY Jeff assuring Casey they'll all be cool with Jessie once Russels out of the way (exact oppositte from what the group of 5 Jor/Laur/Mich/Jeff/Brad had said in bathroom like five minutes ago). Jeff impressing the importance of keeping a lid on the info to Casey and Casey basically feels the need to be loyal to Jessie (they had some sort of understanding)

Notably Casey said the most important people to him now are Michele and Ronnie and if they have them he's locked and loaded. He then says he wants one of the girls to get HOH and nominate Russel because it would piss him off more.

 

[falconfan]

Yup Ronnie has sort of screwed himself, but I think his best bet is still to vote to keep Braden. Yeah the jocks will know he flipped, but if they win HOH again, there's still a chance they'll wanna go after one of the (perceived) bigger targets first. Remember, Dan betrayed Michelle last year and she still didn't nominate him after Jessie's eviction (focusing instead on the direct enemies: Libra and Keesha). There's a chance the jocks will still go after the Populars if they win HOH.

Plus we're basically only talking about Russell and Natalie winning HOH since Jessie can't play and Jeff has essentially defected from their team.

And Natalie has an injured arm.

 

[blake16]

Well, it's been flipped. I can't wait for tomorrow night. This episode will determine if this season is worth watching more closely or not. As of tonight (although god knows how things change in here), there is a voting block to keep Braden, and kick out the Athletes one at a time...starting with Russ. I think the alliance is JORDAN, JEFF, CASEY, LAURA, RONNIE, and MICHELE. I love it.

 

[aijalon18]

Jeff is like the male version of Janelle. He never bows to anyone's demands and I LOVE it.

That is a ludicrous comparison. It is way too early. And Janelle is a competition legend. Jeff hasnt proven himself to be good at anything. Janelle did bow down to many demands. I was a fan of hers, but Will played her like a fiddle. It's like saying Jordan's dopey ass is a male version of Evil Dick at this point. Ift makes NO sense.

 

[The Warmth]

Nice. Well then, the next time you have a question about law school, please don't PM me. My response might be too long for you.

You know, sometimes it takes adults more than 2 lines to explain something and to make a sensible, adult argument. Also, there's a lot of lengthy reading in law school so you may wanna look elsewhere career-wise.

A rule of thumb is if I have no vested interest, I won't bother. I thank you for the information you gave me and yes, I have decided to look elsewhere; into the medical field.

 

[jonnyj]

Im happy this season that the houseguests are playing much better and more aggresive in the beginning. No more mob mentality bullshit we're used to having. Although there really isnt anyone to root for at the moment, you have the choice of either the douchebag meatheads(Natalie, Jessie) vs the bigoted idiots(Jeff, Braden, Jordan). Im hoping for a Laura HOH win this week, her and Michelle are probably the least offensive and obnoxious of this group (Kevin too, but I refuse to get behind him as long as he's attached to Lydia).

 

[aijalon18]

^ I agree. There really is no one worthy of rooting for. They're all some level of terrible. I wanna root for Kevin as well but he's attached at the hip to Lydia. And I think he will be for a long time sadly. He'll be collateral damage if Chima goes.

I also wanted to like Laura. but now she's completely been brainwashed by Jordan, Jeff, and Braden. The whole house, including her own teammates, virtually ignored her until about 2 days ago when they needed her to flip the vote. She's another one who talks about how smart they are but makes themselves look really dumb. It would be better for her to stick with the jocks for this vote. She could have sailed along Erika Landin style, but her rebellious teenager routine put a target on her back.

 

[jaysizzles]

It's always been one of my biggest pet peeves with regards to the hgs voting with the house/mob mentality....the team twist this season seems to have rectified that. I'm liking it so far. Not necessarily liking the hgs though...but there's been no lacking in drama!

 

[aijalon18]

NATALIE: (to Laura) "If it weren't for me, you would've been on the block last week. You were thisclose to being nominated and I told Jessie not to. I'm the reason you're safe. I saved you from going on the block and you're treating me like dirt right now!"

LoL @ Laura saying she would've won POV and saved herself anyway.

Now Natalie's telling Laura that if she votes for Braden to stay, it means she supports racists.

LAURA: "Don't tell me that. I have strong morals."

Whether you like Nat or not. She has a point. Laura was gonna go on the block instead of Lydia. Russell and Nat changed Jessie's mind at the last minute because they pointed out Lydia was a shameless whore who would do anything to win.

There's no way of knowing she would have won POV. That's just silly.

Saying you have strong morals isnt enough sweetie, when you are ignoring them. She should just be real and say she isnt thinking about morality in this game.

 

[falconfan]

^ I agree. There really is no one worthy of rooting for. They're all some level of terrible. I wanna root for Kevin as well but he's attached at the hip to Lydia. And I think he will be for a long time sadly. He'll be collateral damage if Chima goes.

I also wanted to like Laura. but now she's completely been brainwashed by Jordan, Jeff, and Braden. The whole house, including her own teammates, virtually ignored her until about 2 days ago when they needed her to flip the vote. She's another one who talks about how smart they are but makes themselves look really dumb. It would be better for her to stick with the jocks for this vote. She could have sailed along Erika Landin style, but her rebellious teenager routine put a target on her back.

Laura's doing the smartest thign for herself. She offered her services up to Jessie & company but they always just talk down to her, rejected her, threatened to nominate her, ;aughed at her for no reason. Right now she's in a pretty solid slider spot as the Russel/Jessie/Nat/Lydia will be gunning for Jeff/Jordan/Braden/ probably even Ronnie before her. Kevin should also be able to floate safely UNLESS Jeff wins HOH because his only nom options will be Lydia and Kevin.

I think working wiht non-Jocks give her more slider potential. Because floating is best in the face of all out war and that's what this will be and it will only get worse and worse because the Jocks all want Jeff gone and Jeff wants them gone and there aint a damn thing they can do about it.

 

[Mystereon]

I find it funny before Braden made those comments, they really never had a reason to put him up, now after the fact they want to beat a dead horse with the racists comments. I'm so happy Laura did confront them and called them out on their bullshit. It's week 1 and their already threatening people if the don't vote they want them to. Whether or not Laura made a promise to Chima to vote for her, Laura's piority is her team, how would it look if she voted someone off her own team to leave? That should atleast show what kind of person she is

 

[falconfan]

Whether you like Nat or not. She has a point. Laura was gonna go on the block instead of Lydia. Russell and Nat changed Jessie's mind at the last minute because they pointed out Lydia was a shameless whore who would do anything to win.

There's no way of knowing she would have won POV. That's just silly.

Saying you have strong morals isnt enough sweetie, when you are ignoring them. She should just be real and say she isnt thinking about morality in this game.

A) How can you say there's no way she could've won POV. The word she had to beat was "shotgun"... that doesn't take a neurosurgeon.

B) I HATE that line of thought about 'you owe me' Jessie always use to whine and moan about it last year talking about how Libra owed him because he didn't backdoor her when he could.

No one 'owes' the HOH and certainly no one 'owes' the FRIEND of the HOH for not being nominated. The HOH makes a strategic decision about what they think is best for themselves it's not the other houseguests obligation to make sure that decision was right and do what is best for teh HOH. That's just dumb. Jessie didn't do anything for Laura, nor did Natalie. They did what they perceived was best for themselves if their perception was wrong that's their own problem.

 

[jaysizzles]

Whether you like Nat or not. She has a point. Laura was gonna go on the block instead of Lydia. Russell and Nat changed Jessie's mind at the last minute because they pointed out Lydia was a shameless whore who would do anything to win.

There's no way of knowing she would have won POV. That's just silly.

Saying you have strong morals isnt enough sweetie, when you are ignoring them. She should just be real and say she isnt thinking about morality in this game.

To a point Nat is right...but that was Jessie and Nat's decision not to nom her...you can't expect blind loyalty on something that may or may not have happened unless Laura made a deal with them not to put her on the block...which I don't believe she did. Nat could also respect Laura for wanting to save her teammate for her own safety...morals aside (sometimes you need to work with people you don't like or don't agree with in order to advance...part of the game.) Nat and Jessie were drilling Jeff to vote to save Chima...saying he should be a team player...yet they don't allow Laura the same consideration to be a team player with her own team...because it doesn't benefit them (Do as I say...not as I do.)

Laura has to look out for herself...she may become a target though, depending on next hoh...but I'm glad she showed some spine and stood up to them...I hate spineless sheep! I kept wishing she would say that she was fine voting out Lydia before...but now that her teammate and her game was effected...she had a change of mind....be real.

Nat and Jessie's intimidation tactics last night were not the smartest way to obtain Laura and Jeff's votes. It forced a confrontation and drew a line in the sand...rather than leaving the door open for further discussion. Nat comes across way to strong and confrontational...

 

[aijalon18]

^Yea Jess and Nat's approach was all wrong. But Laura is an idiot despite all her protests to the contrary. She made up her mind that she was saving Braden and there was really nothing they could say to change it. In her case the sticking to her team excuse doesnt hold up because she already promised her vote to Chima. Now she has broken her word and has a bigger target than Braden at this point. Her dumb ass is basically sacrificing herself to save a stranger.

Nat is too aggressive and abrasive. she really fits the stereotypical jock personality to the max. She even has kind of a butch way that she carries herself. Someones been putting testosterone in her smoothies.

 

[joesman]

I'd like to know what Jeff has don to play the game? He hasn't done anything but sit on his ass and shift the obligations to someone else. Then he sits and talks about how he's shaking up the house. Jordan (Big C that she is) believes everything Ronnie tells her even as others warn her he is a running tattle tale. He never leaves anyone alone. Braden has done a lot more since his campaign than anyone else that purports to be doing things.

Whose to say that someone other than this group of a--holes will win HoH or even POV?

Ajalon did not say she wouldn't have won POV. he said there is no way of knowing she would have won. Remember they had to dig in that mess for letters and then make a word. Sometimes shotgun can be the winning word. HA!

 

[joesman]

And Jordan ain't going to get no Jeff during the show. He told her in the pool yesterday " You come into my bed and cuddle and get all touchy feely. I am not doing that kind of tv show." Then he says if he wins HoH he will definitely put up Lydia and possibly Laura.