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The Official "Big Brother 11" Discussion Thread!

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aijalon18 said:
^Yea Jess and Nat's approach was all wrong. But Laura is an idiot despite all her protests to the contrary. She made up her mind that she was saving Braden and there was really nothing they could say to change it. In her case the sticking to her team excuse doesnt hold up because she already promised her vote to Chima. Now she has broken her word and has a bigger target than Braden at this point. Her dumb ass is basically sacrificing herself to save a stranger.

Nat is too aggressive and abrasive. she really fits the stereotypical jock personality to the max. She even has kind of a butch way that she carries herself. Someones been putting testosterone in her smoothies.
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How is Laura "sacraficing herself." Jessie's clique already hated her with no real provocation. Why should she stick with them and hope they'll change their mind instead of working wiht people who are malleable?

Are you sure this isn't just a case of 'I want Braden to go home and therefore am only willing to consider the possibility that it's in the best interest in contestant X to send Braden home?'
 
joesman said:
I'd like to know what Jeff has don to play the game? He hasn't done anything but sit on his ass and shift the obligations to someone else. Then he sits and talks about how he's shaking up the house. Jordan (Big C that she is) believes everything Ronnie tells her even as others warn her he is a running tattle tale. He never leaves anyone alone. Braden has done a lot more since his campaign than anyone else that purports to be doing things.

Whose to say that someone other than this group of a--holes will win HoH or even POV?

Ajalon did not say she wouldn't have won POV. he said there is no way of knowing she would have won. Remember they had to dig in that mess for letters and then make a word. Sometimes shotgun can be the winning word. HA!
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Jeff, perhaps by accident has fallen into a pretty sweet position for the time being of the 8 people who can nominate him (assuming Braden stays): 6 of them are allies of his. The clique twist will keep him protected for while but it'll take a lot of work to help him when that's removed because he's making himself a big target.

To be honest I can't say who is responsible for the rally to save Braden. When you see them all together Jeff's giving the marching orders. Regardless I'd say the person most responsible for evicting Chima was neither Braden, Jeff, or Jordan but a combined effort by Chima and Russel. With Chima snapping at Michelle she alienated herself from her own team for no reason and when the smack she spoke about Casey got back to him (via Michele... who should we note again that Chima needlessly pissed off) she lost him. Throw that in with Russel's decision to boss everyone around and everyone's response was 'let's do the exact opposite of whatever Russel's group wants.' No one cared that Chima would be collateral damage either because she's spent the past three or four days up with Jessie, clearly a horrible pawn and even worse at maintaining any sort of secret alliance.
 
joesman said:
I'd like to know what Jeff has don to play the game?
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I see where you're coming from, and also whole heartedly disagree with the Janelle comparison, but I think Jeff has played the game pretty darn well given that it has been barely a week. I say this considering his current position, which he may have worked his way into, or just landed in my sheer luck. Think about it...they're all introduced to the twist this season, and Jessie enters the house to join up with what is arguably the strongest team of the four, making them even stronger. PLUS, their team gets an automatic pass through the first round with Jessie as HoH. If I was in Jeff's position, I would distance myself from the athletes as well, who were quick to attach themselves to first the Brains, then the Offbeats.

He has no reason to allign himself with his clique, because they CAN'T nominate him! Their alliance is comprised of the weakest players in the house, so unless they pull off a win, they have no way of putting him up and getting him out. He's alligned himself with the populars (mostly), and so is in a position where when their eventual HoH day comes, they'll go after the athletes on the other side. It's pretty brilliant, but again, I'm not sure if his situation was all that thought out on his part.

What's killing me about the cast this season is the egos. They are all quick to determine who is "good" or "bad" at challenges. The contests in Big Brother are so completely arbitrary and random that for Russ to develop an ego after spelling SHOTGUN, is absolutely ridiculous. Then, they predict who will win this week, based on who is "good" at challenges. It's such a crap shoot, but they all treat the game as something that actually requires some kind of physical dexterity or mental stamina. Really? The HoH especially usually comes down to about seven true or false questions pertaining to very specific information.

I hope Laura gets it, what an interesting week it'd make. Lydia went from my favorite to my least favorite over the past couple weeks. Girls gotta go.
 
As shown on Big Brother: After Dark scroll last night, it said it was Ronnie who really started the "lets save Braden" campaign. Jordan and Jeff were the only two people who were going to vote to save Braden, however Ronnie jumped on the bandwagon in order to “shake up the house”. Jeff and Jordan then were able to get Laura and Michelle to also agree to keep Braden and vote out Chima. So it became Jeff, Jordan, Laura, Michelle, and Ronnie voting to keep Braden and Russell, Natalie, Lydia, Kevin, and Casey to keep Chima, meaning Jesse would vote out Braden. HOWEVER … Casey grew to dislike Chima, and Jeff used that to get him to vote to save Braden, taking the final vote out of the Steroid Crews hands.

The four Cliques have become two larger cliques, and two floaters:

Clique #1: Jeff, Jordan, Braden, Laura, and Michelle

and

Clique #2: Jesse, Russell, Natalie, Lydia, and Kevin

The floaters: Casey (“loyal” to Jesse) and Ronnie (PAIN IN THE ASS)
 
I don't get the benefit of working against your clique. I have a strange feeling it will matter more somewhere down the road as to how many are left in your clique. Ronnie and Michelle working against Chima, Jeff working against his clique (which honestly, he was never interested in to begin with since he refused to talk to them about who to put up, was more interested in tuna than decisions.)
 
I think Ronnie's wife is putting up a smoke screen too...

Ronnie hasn't convinced me yet that he knows what the hell he's doing!
 
I want to beat Ronnie’s face in with a trashcan lid when he talks, laughs, and/or dances. I can’t wait until someone finally flips and tells the f***er to just go the hell away. He is up everyone’s ass 24/7 and he acts like he knows wtf is going on and like he is in charge, tool needs to just disappear.
 
I know Jeff doesn't like the ppl on his team, but if his clique wins, he's safe. Why would he want to risk being put on the block by throwing away comps? No other person can gurantee him safety but his own clique.
 
Kennylicious said:
Watching these people clean the house is making me feel awfully lazy, LoL.

WTF is Ronnie whispering to Michele for?

Now he's whispering to Russell in the bathroom.

RUSSELL: "How are you planning to vote?"

RONNIE: "I'm voting to keep Chima."

God, I can't figure him out at all. He lies to both sides so much, I honestly have no clue where he stands.
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That is why I want to beat Ronnie’s face in with a trashcan lid. He is going to cross both Cliques and then NO ONE is going to trust him and his ass will be in trouble. When I watch Big Brother: After Dark and he thuds around the house, I want to throw things at my television. GRRRR, someone vote him out for me please.
 
Trying to save and cover his ass. Ronnie did this last night on Big Brother: After Dark, he tried to throw Lydia and Kevin under the bus as someone who may cross the Jocks and vote out Chima. Ronnie is trying to keep the blood off his hands, and place blame on everyone else.
 
If Ronnie does not follow thru with the plan to save Braden, then Jeff, Jordan, Laura, Michelle, and Casey are going to hunt him down. If one of them win HOH, they should throw him on the block and see how many people vote to save his tool ass.
 
Kennylicious, do you think he is playing the Jocks and is going to save Braden and then throw Kevin, Lydia, or someone else (Russell) under the bus?
 
I could see Ronnie voting to save Braden, then acting shocked when Chima is voted out. Ronnie could then follow Jesse, Natalie, Russell, Lydia, and Kevin into another room and start working the theory that someone in the group is lying. (I don’t know if he is that smart)
 
Kennylicious said:
Michele just swore to God that she's voting Chima out.

Laura is locked in. Jordan is locked in. Casey is locked in. Michele is locked in. Jeff is locked in.

Ronnie is the deciding vote. Of all people... RONNIE. Both sides think he's voting their way.
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Ronnie fucked himself hard. What an idiot.
 
I’m reading updates on Joker’s and Ronnie is a shit stirrer and it’s going to come back to bite him in the ass.
 
COME ON RONNIE. I think this vote decides if people are going to follow the show very closely or not. Could make or break this season.
 
Ronnie is so clueless that he probably thinks he is “America’s Player”.
 
Kennylicious said:
Here's what I think Ronnie is trying to do.

Vote to evict Chima. The vote comes to a tie.

He then tells Chima that Michele voted against her, thereby throwing her under the bus in their own clique. He also tells Jeff/Jordan/Laura/Casey that Michele was the one who didn't stick to their 'evict Chima' plan and throws her under the bus with that group as well. He's essentially going to throw her under the bus to everyone, LoL. At least that's how it sounds right now.

Poor Michele. :(
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Why not vote to evict Chima, then have the power of that Clique and be saved for a while. If he fucks with Jeff/Jordan/Laura/Michelle/Casey and one of them win HOH, his ass is going up and could be eliminated. If Ronnie votes with them and eliminates Chima, he now has the backing of the Clique with numbers and protection.
 
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