The Official "Big Brother 11" Discussion Thread!

[falconfan]

But Chima was nominated as a pawn. Laura is in a different situation. She is so hated by the other side she has to do something drastic. Maybe she should encourage more Jordan outbursts. Now she's keeping this cutesy southern belle routine going. Laura needs people to keep seeing Jordan's nasty side and see her as a loose cannon.

But being against Jordan is the worst case scenario for her why would she push for it? And if she wanted to manipulate Jordan towards exploding she could do that when/if Jordan is nomm'd.

 

[quackkers]

I don't give a shit about Chima. That nasty thing is just low class and essentially a rude obnoxious bitch. What fucking ever to Chima. She thinks she's so set to win this whole game after surviving week 1 and being safe in week2. The way she wanted the populars to go on slop was just low. In the end, she's just a plain out bad person because her personality stinks like shit. Ronnie may be playing a bad game, but Chima actually has a shitty and rude attitude.

I'm losing interest in this if Laura leaves. I really still like Laura because she stands firm on what she believes. If Laura loses the game because she stands firm on her beliefs, then so be it, but she's doing the right thing. J/J are kinda clueless and Michele/Casey stand alone against the obnoxious crew.

It was awesome seeing Dan because I finally saw someone decent in the house besides Michele. Jessie is just a fucking sore ass fag because he lost to Dan. Porcupine walking backwards? I'd honestly rather anything that your fugly face on TV complimenting yourself because you think you're hot, sexy, smart, and a great BB player.

Ronnie is whatever. Loved Jordan bitching at him. Whatever.

 

[aijalon18]

Why would she want to throw her biggest ally under the bus when there's a reasonably chance that if she just says nothing the other nominee may be

A) Someone on the other team
B) Casey who she has a better chance against anyway

Also Michele is not sticking her neck out for Laura. She's the lowest on the other sides pecking list. Lydia and Kevin where actually whispering that they want Michele to win HOH so they can use her to take out Natalie... what made them think she'd do that for them I don't know. Point is Laura is employing the sit still and hope the other guy implodes strategy.

Jordan seems like an ally because she's on her team. But Jordan is a threat to her because the other side sees Jordan as non threatening. And they pretty much always will until Laura does something to change that. Plus Jeff will never be close to Laura as long as Jordan is in the picture. With Jordan gone the Popular team is no longer a threat and people wouldnt have much incentive to target Laura.

Michelle doesnt have to stick her neck out. It would be better for Michelle to have Laura. Having Jordan out of the way would help Michelle as well. All the guys pretty much protect Jordan. If Michelle is as smart as we all think, she'll realize it would better for her to get Jordan out because of the power she has over the guys.

 

[falconfan]

Jessie is just a fucking sore ass fag

Classy... I was unaware that they let Jordan post to this board from the house.

 

[falconfan]

Jordan seems like an ally because she's on her team. But Jordan is a threat to her because the other side sees Jordan as non threatening. And they pretty much always will until Laura does something to change that. Plus Jeff will never be close to Laura as long as Jordan is in the picture. With Jordan gone the Popular team is no longer a threat and people wouldnt have much incentive to target Laura.

Jordan can't nominate her. Jordan promised to use the veto on Laura over Jeff had she won it (pre-veto). Jordan is far closer to Laura than Michele or Casey are. Jordan is one of a few people who DON'T irrationally hate Laura. I don't get your angle here? I just don't. At this point someone from their team NEEDS to win HOH if it's reasonably possible to get someone whose not on their team (Russel) up by simply SITTING STILL and being nice to him why wouldn't you do that!!!!!

Michelle doesnt have to stick her neck out. It would be better for Michelle to have Laura. Having Jordan out of the way would help Michelle as well. All the guys pretty much protect Jordan. If Michelle is as smart as we all think, she'll realize it would better for her to get Jordan out because of the power she has over the guys.

Ok or in real life.... Michele realizes that if she tries to influence Ronnie to do anything Ronnie will IMMEDIATELY run to the player she discussed and say "Michele said X Y Z about you." Which is undoubtedly the reason why she hasn't even tried strategizing with Ronnie since the vote.

 

[Bidude117]

I work alone babe.

Yeah, I know babe.

I'm already bored with this season and I think Jesse has something to do with it. We so did not need that moron back in the house. I wish the house had dumb whores like Natalie from BB9 to keep things interesting.

 

[falconfan]

UGH They disgust me. THey're all up in HOH bashign Dan again. Do they do anything other than try and please Jessie?

 

[Bidude117]

I agree. Pretty much ANY past houseguest (except Dick Donato) would be preferable to Jessie. Yup, I'd even rather see Boogie or Cowboy or Ivette.

I still don't understand why a former houseguest needed to come back in the first place. Stupid twist I tell ya.

Hopefully things will get interesting once the dumbass is gone.

 

[falconfan]

Velma is always off somewhere sight unseen on the feeds. Has she found a secret room to masturbate in or something?

She was talking to Casey last I read. She always seems to be passing throuhg the from while I'm watching. Perhaps she's just doing laps lol

 

[falconfan]

I still don't understand why a former houseguest needed to come back in the first place. Stupid twist I tell ya.

Hopefully things will get interesting once the dumbass is gone.

I'm fine with the twist. I just don't understand why all these people have become followers of Jessie IMMEDIATELY. Natalie is infatuated with him as is Ronnie Lydia has just loved him since she was nominated WTF?

They all think they need to clear plans by him and no one just sees him as the ass he was last year because by being the only veteran somehow gave him automatic status???? IDK they seem to have forgotten he's a veteran who got his ass evicted before jury despite being a pawn. Why is he not a target simply for being a veteran????

These people are just plain dumb.

 

[Kensei]

Everyone needs to hop back on the backdoor Russel plan.

 

[aijalon18]

I appreciate that you're actually reading my posts, absorbing the points and replying to them -- and I can see why you'd think that intuitively, Laura should step it up -- but I still think in this case it's better to wait until at least after the POV.

Also, I mentioned Danielle from BB7 in my post. When she was nominated, she wasn't originally a pawn of any kind. Janelle had heard that Danielle and Allison were after her, and had nominated them both with the intention of getting EITHER of them out. And for some time there, the House was really considering keeping Allison (mostly because of CT's influence) so she could go after Janelle. Danielle then was in very real danger but she smartly folded, and performed the rest of the week like Helen Keller and Mother Teresa rolled into one, while Allison went balls-to-the-wall trying to cajole and make promises and get every vote she could. And what happened? Everyone felt Allison was coming on too strong, saw Danielle as calm and collected, and evicted Allison in a landslide 8-2 vote.

I think when there are fewer numbers in the House, and the personalities and alliances are more well-defined, then you can go around trying to campaign and flip votes. But this early in the game when there are so many people and Herd mentality often sets in (this was part of Allison's undoing), it's best to let the other person sink him/herself.

I dunno what the solution is but I want Laura to stay. I think getting rid of Jordan would help her. I think it would change the dynamic of that group and get their asses focused. But I wouldnt mind Casey going either.

Yea Danielle wasnt a pawn she and Allison were Janelle's biggest competition. They couldnt keep Allison after she fuckin hid in a pot. Bitch is crazy. I think Janelle and Allison are similar players. Danielle's game is so different. I think it helped that James was very adamant about keeping Danielle because of their alliance.

 

[falconfan]

Everyone needs to hop back on the backdoor Russel plan.

That plan was over the minute it trickled up to Jessie.

 

[MailBoxWater]

Jessie said he'd rather see a porcupine enter the room than Dan. How did he say that porcupine should enter? Here's Julie Chen with the answer:

 

[bostonboy20]

havent' been paying attention to BBAD or this thread really..but watching back tonights ep on DVR....Ronnie is SUCHHHHH a DOUCHE! Can't stand him!!!!!

 

[aijalon18]

^ I agree it was unnecessary and it certainly didnt help her game. But would people have any issues with it if she treated Jessie that way?

I think Chima is not even in it to win it. And she knows that casey hates her and feels no need to be nice or polite.

 

[soapstarjoe]

IMO, she's only there to be a bitch and get camera time, LoL.

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

 

[joesman]

That plan was over the minute it trickled up to Jessie.

You're right because if you listened to Jessie explain to Ronnie and Lydia and Chima why it is better to get one of the other side before Russell, it made a lot of sense. Keep the numbers while you have them and then as Jessie says you start picking off the others. The only point Chima and Ronnie made was get rid of Russell before jury house. Right now Jury House is the ultimate destination for most of these people.

Jeff gets surly and pissy when he gets screwed over and yet he goes back and listens to the same shit and agrees to it and gets screwed over again.

Cute. Jordan is cute and if Jeff wanted some she would give but Jeff is being virtuous . Jordan is dumb and Jeff is right there beside her.

I agree that Laura has a good idea of how the game works but her voice is dulled by Casey's jive and Jordan and Jeff's denials. She told them way before the Braden eviction that Ronnie was playing everyone - and it seems to me (although I am here and they are there) that Ronnie was everywhere. Every where there was conversation there was Ronnie and everyone just let him slide.

Michelle is playing smart by staying out of the light for the time being (or she is making a list of her home toys she wants when she wins HoH). Kevin is flying under the radar to this point. No one sees a threat there.

I think Laura will go home over Jordan. She is far more intelligent and savvy, and if people had listened they would possibly have been in a whole different scenario now.

Jessie showing Ronnie how to lift weights. That is a long and winding road to get any progress on fatty ratty.

Jessie is looking hot, isn't he?

 

[joesman]

On the other side of the house Ronnie is the prime target. He should be everyone's prime target, but Jordan, Jeff, Casey and Laura should definitely try to take him out if either wins HoH. It would be fun to watch him squirm knowing he should be going home. And it would be lovely if he went before Jury House.

 

[joesman]

Chima with her horrible background has anger issues and they come out strong and harsh. She is confrontational - but I don't blame her at all for being steadfast about putting the populars on have not. Casey was saying athletes who she is aligned with and she cut him down right at the knees and he just let her have it, so no a s for Casey, but she got what she demanded and I think 'good on her.' I am not a fan of hers but I see where she is coming from.

Th Jeff, Jordan etc are always talking about the other side of the house and criticizing them for always talking game and yet they do exactly the same thing. When she says it bothers her when she enters a room and everyone gets silent, the same thing happens outside with her, Jeff, Casey, and Laura. When she talks about someone she asks to be alerted if they are coming. It seems human nature is people being unable to see themselves in the same light as they see other people.

They complain about the game and yet when you come into BB House you should know that lying, betrayal, cliques, battles always happen and you learn to deal with it rather than say 'poor lil me'. Casey, Jeff and Jordan do that constantly although I give Casey credit for being able to shrug and walk away.

Dan did run and hide when he was confronted. How many times did we see him hiding under covers or in a corner somewhere?

BB is deception, reading people and playing them. Know that before you ever walk in for an interview for the show.