The Official "Big Brother 11" Discussion Thread!

[Lovegame]

ughh...i liked Jordan, then hated her. Now i have no one left but her I guess. Kev is ehh to me.

if Natalie surprised me getting HoH, maybe Jordan can too?! one can hope..i mean I dont know if Jordan would win against Kevin. but Kevin/Jordan Final 2, just so long Nastily doesn't get ANY money....little bitch

 

[voyager76]

I just pray there's some way Jordan can win the final HOH & get rid of Nastalie or Kevin. It's not impossible - I'm sure AG knows how America feels and might rig it Jordan's way. Don't want to sound like I condone cheating but I hate those two fucks so much I can't stomach the two of them being the F2.

 

[joesman]

I was so disappointed to see that Michele didn't pull off another game-saving Veto win. At the same time, though, I can't say I didn't expect it because Michele was my favorite from day one and my favorites NEVER WIN... except for Dan, and I knew that there wouldn't be two seasons back-to-back with my favorites winning.

Oh well. I hope Michele doesn't turn down an invite to All-Stars 2, because she better get one! <3

I don't really know who to root for at this point. Jordan was always my second favorite but she has no game at all and she's been kind of a bitch lately. I actually like Kevin but, like somebody else said, a Kevin win would be a Team Jessie win... ugh. I guess anybody but Nasty would be alright.

For the record I don't recall Kev being on team Jessie. He just happened to be friends with Lydia who couldn't keep her hands off Jessie (and Jeff I have learned). Kev was always somewhat disdainful of Jessie and Natalie. The way it turned out Natalie was his only ally after Chima was kicked off and Lydia was evicted. Was he supposed to kiss J&J ass and run to them for safety? They completely ignored him throughout the game and only started going to him when they were in danger, and I am glad, so very glad he didn't fall for Jeff's schtick.

The gay guy bested the Jeffster and macho bully Russell. So fuck them and hooray for KEVIN!!!!

 

[soopadupa]

Kev asks for guarantee from Nat for final 2 deal, Nat swears on her engagement, Kev says that might be fake

lol

 

[slipintothefog]

I will say I am very, very sad at the way some people re-acted to his winning the POV. It is always very telling. I have yet to see people here or elsewhere totally support the gay guy. It says volumes about how we perceive ourselves.

It's amazing how gay guys are so anti-Kevin. I don't get it. I think he's pretty amusing, as he nails the other houseguests in his DR sessions (when he was talking about how Natalie always says she plans to win and then doesn't, I was cracking up), and he's a decent player. He hasn't really done anything tasteless or offensive other than aligning with Natalie out of necessity in recent weeks... and that's only offensive because Natalie is so repulsive.

I mean, seriously. The guy certainly is NOT that vile asshole Joshuah from BB9. Why so much hate?

Also, true, Kevin wasn't really on Team "Jessie," but he was definitely against the side of the house that was against Jessie, so he's guilty by association. Still, I think I'd probably prefer him to win out of the three that will be left once Michele leaves.

 

[joesman]

Oh, what the fuck ever.

Me not wanting Kevin to win the POV has nothing to do with his sexuality or how I perceive myself as a gay man. Are we really back to this bullshit? REALLY? First you called me a homophobe in the American Idol thread for not wanting Adam Lambert to win and now I'm a bad homosexual for not wanting Kevin to win the Power of Veto? Get out of here with that shit. Why the fuck do you feel the need to throw this crap around in every thread you post in? We're not evil gays just because we're not in love with every gay reality show contestant that's presented to us. Your insinuations are tired and you're fucking ridiculous.

Ahem... but I digress...

The reason I'm not crazy about Kevin is because I feel like Natalie's nastiness has rubbed off on him. I'm simply not a fan of the company he keeps. Chalk it up to personal preference. I never said that he was worse than all the others. In fact, all I said was that he's equally as vile as all the rest. No better, no worse. Simply right on par. I also think he's phony from time to time. None of these things have anything to do with his sexuality though... and at the end of the day, I hope he wins the show if Michele can't.

Did it ever occur to you that most of us didn't want Kevin winning the POV because we just don't want Michele to go home? It has nothing to do with Kevin's sexuality, nor does it have anything to do with our own. We simply like Michele and don't want to see her get the boot. That's all there is to it. So you can take your ridiculous insinuations and shove them up your ass. Fuck off.

OOOOOOOOOH! That hurt so good. Thank you.

 

[slipintothefog]

It has nothing to do with him as a person, his sexuality or his gameplay.

Oh, sorry, I wasn't trying to accuse anybody at this forum of that. But I have noticed on others that Kevin isn't very popular among gay fans, even though I personally think he's one of the more likable gay guys from BB USA. Of course, anybody would seem like a saint being compared to the likes of Josh or Joe.

And, yeah, I totally agree with you in that I was upset Kevin won because I was rooting for Michele.

 

[voyager76]

Oh, what the fuck ever.

Me not wanting Kevin to win the POV has nothing to do with his sexuality or how I perceive myself as a gay man. Are we really back to this bullshit? REALLY? First you called me a homophobe in the American Idol thread for not wanting Adam Lambert to win and now I'm a bad homosexual for not wanting Kevin to win the Power of Veto? Get out of here with that shit. Why the fuck do you feel the need to throw this crap around in every thread you post in? We're not evil gays just because we're not in love with every gay reality show contestant that's presented to us. Your insinuations are tired and you're fucking ridiculous.

Ahem... but I digress...

The reason I'm not crazy about Kevin is because I feel like Natalie's nastiness has rubbed off on him. I'm simply not a fan of the company he keeps. Chalk it up to personal preference. I never said that he was worse than all the others. In fact, all I said was that he's equally as vile as all the rest. No better, no worse. Simply right on par. I also think he's phony from time to time. None of these things have anything to do with his sexuality though... and at the end of the day, I hope he wins the show if Michele can't.

Did it ever occur to you that most of us didn't want Kevin winning the POV because we just don't want Michele to get the boot? It has nothing to do with Kevin's sexuality, nor does it have anything to do with our own. We simply like Michele and don't want to see her get the boot. That's all there is to it. So you can take your ridiculous insinuations and shove them up your ass.

Thank you Kenny, couldn't have said it any better.

 

[jonnyj]

It's amazing how gay guys are so anti-Kevin. I don't get it. I think he's pretty amusing, as he nails the other houseguests in his DR sessions (when he was talking about how Natalie always says she plans to win and then doesn't, I was cracking up), and he's a decent player. He hasn't really done anything tasteless or offensive other than aligning with Natalie out of necessity in recent weeks... and that's only offensive because Natalie is so repulsive.

I mean, seriously. The guy certainly is NOT that vile asshole Joshuah from BB9. Why so much hate?

Also, true, Kevin wasn't really on Team "Jessie," but he was definitely against the side of the house that was against Jessie, so he's guilty by association. Still, I think I'd probably prefer him to win out of the three that will be left once Michele leaves.

I like Kevin but the way he treats Michele is ridiculously uncalled for. I expect that from trash like Natalie, but I thought Kevin at least had morals.

 

[Bidude117]

Truthfully when Jessie and Ronnie and Russell were HoH everyone was saying what horrible people they were for playing the game - this game that all of you like so much that requires you to lie, betray, backstab - and when Jeff and Jordan became HoH they turned to the same play and everyone began to hate them - and now Kev is in a position to possibly win and he becomes a horrible person. How is that fair to him?

I did read his blog and thought it was funny, hysterical even and touching.

I am very happy for Kev that he made it this far and if gay people want to tear him apart because he played a good game, well I don't know what to say.

I will say I am very, very sad at the way some people re-acted to his winning the POV. It is always very telling. I have yet to see people here or elsewhere totally support the gay guy. It says volumes about how we perceive ourselves.

Too bad people. Too bad.

Joe, you seriously are delusional if you think we don't like Kevin because he is gay. Are you fucking serious?! It has nothing to do with the fact that he's gay. You and aijalon are one in the same. Both of you make up stupid ass excuses as to why people don't like certain houseguests. Shit like, everyone hates Jessie because he's a strong muscled man, or everyone hates Chima because she's a strong black bitch, and now everyone hates Kevin because's he's gay?!?! Seriously? Maybe people actually hate them for their behavior or game play?! Ever thought of that?

For the record, the reason why I am upset with the current turn of event is because I wanted Michele to win POV to save her own ass. I feel like she has played a great game and deserves to be in the final 2. But this doesn't mean I don't think Kevin has played a good game, I just feel Michele is more deserving.
Now, that it seems like Kevin will be in the final 2, I hope he fucking wins!

Happy now?

 

[joesman]

Oh, what the fuck ever.

Me not wanting Kevin to win the POV has nothing to do with his sexuality or how I perceive myself as a gay man. Are we really back to this bullshit? REALLY? First you called me a homophobe in the American Idol thread for not wanting Adam Lambert to win and now I'm a bad homosexual for not wanting Kevin to win the Power of Veto? Get out of here with that shit. Why the fuck do you feel the need to throw this crap around in every thread you post in? We're not evil gays just because we're not in love with every gay reality show contestant that's presented to us. Your insinuations are tired and you're fucking ridiculous.

Ahem... but I digress...

The reason I'm not crazy about Kevin is because I feel like Natalie's nastiness has rubbed off on him. I'm simply not a fan of the company he keeps. Chalk it up to personal preference. I never said that he was worse than all the others. In fact, all I said was that he's equally as vile as all the rest. No better, no worse. Simply right on par. I also think he's phony from time to time. None of these things have anything to do with his sexuality though... and at the end of the day, I hope he wins the show if Michele can't.

Did it ever occur to you that most of us didn't want Kevin winning the POV because we just don't want Michele to get the boot? It has nothing to do with Kevin's sexuality, nor does it have anything to do with our own. We simply like Michele and don't want to see her get the boot. That's all there is to it. So you can take your ridiculous insinuations and shove them up your ass.

And this holds true for me, Kenny. I didn't want Mich to win it because then Kev would have gone home, and I like him far better than I like her. Her values are just as bad as anyone else who plays this game.

I didn't win anything Kenny. I didn't win this board, nor you, now the game. I just got what I wanted and that makes you angry, and I can't he;p that. yes, you do a great servive to this board and to me. Creds for that.

I'll not say more since you are one of the few who even reads what I write, and I was surprised that you even did that.

 

[joesman]

Joe, you seriously are delusional if you think we don't like Kevin because he is gay. Are you fucking serious?! It has nothing to do with the fact that he's gay. You and aijalon are one in the same. Both of you make up stupid ass excuses as to why people don't like certain houseguests. Shit like, everyone hates Jessie because he's a strong muscled man, or everyone hates Chima because she's a strong black bitch, and now everyone hates Kevin because's he's gay?!?! Seriously? Maybe people actually hate them for their behavior or game play?! Ever thought of that?

For the record, the reason why I am upset with the current turn of event is because I wanted Michele to win POV to save her own ass. I feel like she has played a great game and deserves to be in the final 2. But this doesn't mean I don't think Kevin has played a good game, I just feel Michele is more deserving.
Now, that it seems like Kevin will be in the final 2, I hope he fucking wins!

Happy now?

And for the same reason I wanted Kev to win POV and not Mich. I didn't address you but since you chimed in, don't you see all the caustic remarks made about Kev, when he did nothing that everyone else has done. If you read this thread back you'll see all kinds of hateful remarks about Kev and name calling too.

I would have liked Kev and Mich in the final 2 but I am not for her more than for him. I like him a lot more than her for many reasons.

 

[Lovegame]

i love Janelle. lol

JanellePierzinaWell I am officially done watching BB. Worst F3 ever. What a crappy ending 2 n entertaining season. SURVIVOR cannot air soon enough!!#bb11

 

[Bidude117]

See, Janelle was smart! She was a Michele fan, like most of us.

 

[TheGM27]

I have to agree with Janelle, I'm not happy with how the season ended. I thought it started a bit weak, then picked up early and got hot and heated, now it's the cunt and the bitch.

 

[Zingerific]

make up stupid ass excuses as to why people don't like certain houseguests. Shit like, everyone hates Jessie because he's a strong muscled man, or everyone hates Chima because she's a strong black bitch, and now everyone hates Kevin because's he's gay?!?! Seriously? Maybe people actually hate them for their behavior or game play?! Ever thought of that?

Sometimes people get so wrapped up in looking for a pretext that they forget about the text.

 

[falconfan]

Empty sarcasm always works when you have no real defense.

Anyway... yeah, I'm done here people. Congrats, joesman. You win. Ciao everyone.

It's been fun, but I can't deal with this crazy asshole anymore.

No! Kenny please don't be like that. I'd miss you way to much. This thread is NOTHING without you. NOTHING. You can very easily ignore people with the ignore function and still have plenty of fun with the rest of us.

 

[falconfan]

i love Janelle. lol

JanellePierzinaWell I am officially done watching BB. Worst F3 ever. What a crappy ending 2 n entertaining season. SURVIVOR cannot air soon enough!!#bb11

Janey how you speak to my soul . See these are the reasons why Janelle's so likable she just knows how to perfectly mirror the common sentiment.

 

[falconfan]

Honey, no one believes this stuff and no one takes it seriously. It's happened so many times in so many different threads with the same poster/s. I think you know by now this has nothing to do with you. The rest of us here love you and love the work you do in this thread, and we DON'T think that your supporting or not supporting a gay guy in a stupid competition makes you a homophobe.

I think it would serve you well to just put people who frustrate you like this on Ignore. Really, I'm not saying this to be mean and spiteful, but ever since I've put him (and another poster) on Ignore, I've had a much better time in this thread. You can't stop certain people from saying whatever they feel like saying, but you CAN choose not to see their posts or engage them. This board mercifully gives you that option. Haven't you noticed that most of us DON'T reply to certain posts in this thread? That for weeks now there's been a conversation happening between two posters that the rest of the board didn't really get involved in? There's a reason for that. Let people say what they want. Posts like that have no efficacy because most of us aren't engaging. It shouldn't effect your enjoyment of this thread.

You're the biggest baddest bitch in this thread Kennylicious And most of us think of this thread as your home, and we're your very well-treated guests. There's a reason for that. Don't let certain posts bother you. Put them on Ignore, move on, and just play with the rest of us.

Co-sign ALL of this

 

[Lovegame]

Kenny, please stay!

Anyway on to BB11, I am disappointed that Lab Lady is getting the boot, but I don't dislike Kevin like some of you and in fact I think he's played a better game than Lab Lady. No matter how this week turned out, I knew I was fucked when Natalie won HOH because it meant either Kevin or Lab Lady would be evicted.

The only chance Lab Lady has now is to convince Kevin that he needs her. Since he thinks Natalie is a threat for jury votes -- and he can't evict her himself -- he's going to need someone to beat her in the Final HOH and take him to the end and that's far more likely to be Lab Lady than Jordan. Also, Jordan and Natalie have a bond whereas Lab Lady and Natalie do not. If Kevin evicts Lab Lady, there's no reason for Natalie to try to win the last HOH because she knows both Kevin and Jordan will take her to the end.

Neither of these points are unassailable but if Lab Lady pitches it right, she could sell Kevin on it. I mean fuck, Erika did the seemingly impossible by getting Janelle to keep her over Will so clearly anything is possible. The only reason I'm not hopeful is because Erika actually had game and powers of persuasion; Lab Lady is lovely but she has neither of those things.

pretty much what I was thinking. but Erika was more articulate and didn't stumble across her words as much. and she didn't seem she was lying almost everytime she talked

if I was Michele, I would start planting seeds in Kevins mind. she cant ask him this early. what it's Saturday and they have till Tuesday until eviction. she has to keep talking about how she is beatable for tomorrow to Kevin blah blah blah. then later on she talks about how if he votes to evict Jordan, she cant do anything.

he has doubts against Natalie, and if it came down to it, Natalie can beat Jordan and makes it easier to backstab Kevin. if you keep Michele she has a better chance against Natalie and can vote to evict her. (at this point Michele brings up their F2 plan, herself and Kevin) Kevin won't have blood on his hands cause Michele will evict him if she can get in the Pt III of HoH and if she beats Kevin. Michele also needs to bullshit about how Jordan might not be easy to beat. the final juror vote can be up to America and if America gave Jeff the CDT, most likely Jordan was runner up and how she'll get America's juror vote. and Michele will be easy to beat since she's the lone wolf and has no friends on the jury except Jeff and Jordan but even they turned on her and sided with Kevin when they got Russell out

it wouldnt hurt if Michele could make up a lie about Natalie and convince/persuade Kevin easily, but pretty sure it wont happen..