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The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

I'm going to enjoy Andrew's eviction, not only because he would probably be gunning for Britney if he won HOH, but because he was SO cocksure and condescending in his goodbye video to Money about her gameplay. It would be sweet to watch him go out one week after her. I wish we could hear/see her reaction.

That being said, the problem with anyone being evicted at this stage is that they are eligible to return and with Monet and Annie as his "competition", Andrew will probably (unfortunately) be able to get back into the house. Hopefully in that case he'll go after Matt.

On a related note, this is why I have now switched gears and I'm actually hoping Rachel and/or Brendan aren't evicted until AFTER the houseguest return twist. That way they won't have a chance to come back.
 
I can't believe even the casuals like Rachel. My mom's tastes are usually pretty in line with the casual viewer's tastes, and she only likes Brendon because he's cute and doesn't like Rachel... or anybody else, just like me, only replace "Brendon because he's cute" with "Britney because she's bitchy."
 
I want Rach/Bren out for good. They are just annoying to me.

Andrew is playing too many games at once.

He had a heart to heart w/ Ragan earlier and let the 'phony after brendon' thing out because Ragan was really upset about that, told him he thought it was bullying

He talked w/ Bren a long time, Bren is coaching him, told him to call al house meeting and apologize to Kristen

Kristen was going to vote to keep him, not sure now

Enzo thinks Andrew will spill the beans on everyone if evicted tomorrow night so he's preparing his comeback speech for it
 
Brendon: Play smart. Call a house meeting and apologize.
Andrew: There to help me. I want to wait until my speech tomorrow.
Brendon: Don't give up.
Andrew: I don't feel good here any more.
Brendon: I don't want this thing to be the reason for you to leave. I want you to give it your all.


Seriously? You've done nothing the first three weeks until today when you went after a woman of all people. And YOU don't feel good here, seriously?
 
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What did Andrew do to Kristin again? I missed it on the feeds because they've been so dull this week, I barely tuned in.
 
On a related note, this is why I have now switched gears and I'm actually hoping Rachel and/or Brendan aren't evicted until AFTER the houseguest return twist. That way they won't have a chance to come back.

I didn't even think of that. Is Annie and Monet residing in sequester confirmed? Hopefully Brendon will stay behind because he's not that bad to look at.
 
What did Andrew do to Kristin again? I missed it on the feeds because they've been so dull this week, I barely tuned in.

Andrew went into the bathroom...Kathy and Kristen were in doing whatever and he called Kristen out saying something along the line of "I know what you're up to." Later he went into her bedroom and was talking to her...saying she's throwing him under the bus because she's been talking to Kathy all week and hasn't talked to him at all. He thought Kristen was planning on saving Kathy and evict him. Andrew was coming across as confrontational and Kristen got real defensive...She yelled back that he hasn't come to talk to her either...it's a 2 way street. Afterward, he left...she said she was pissed and she wants him out. He was crying off and on all afternoon...later I guess he apologized to her...but I don't think its changed anything.

Everyone thinks he's a loose cannon...his POV speech claiming he is now after R & B...and then this outburst...he very well may have sealed his own fate.
 
Cool, let's vote out Andrew now and make the season even MORE boring if that's even possible. This is basically BB1 all over again with just about every somewhat interesting person being evicted first. Expect a Slothy/Kristwho final 2 that puts America to sleep at this rate.
 
Cool, let's vote out Andrew now and make the season even MORE boring if that's even possible. This is basically BB1 all over again with just about every somewhat interesting person being evicted first. Expect a Slothy/Kristwho final 2 that puts America to sleep at this rate.

How exactly was Andrew interesting?

If anything this is a smart move. Wouldn't you agree he's a stronger player than Kathy?
 
'Big Brother' scoop -- producers reveal twist... and an upcoming visitor!

Annie the saboteur, we barely knew ye! Fortunately, she may not be the only backstabber in the Big Brother house this summer. EW talked exclusively to Executive Producers Allison Grodner and Rich Meehan about the short-lived twist and what they hope to spring on the houseguests in the coming weeks, including a visit from a former player. So SPOILER ALERT! Don’t click to the next page if you don’t want to learn what happens in tonight’s episode and over the next few weeks.

EW: After Annie was booted, why didn’t you let the house continue to believe that the saboteur was still there?

Allison Grodner: The saboteur may not be dead after all! You’ll find out more tonight (July 29). Make sure you watch! We loved this twist. We were hoping it would go longer. But we don’t rig this show. People accuse us of rigging this show, people accuse us of trying to manipulate things. We don’t! We picked someone who was playing her own game, who was a huge fan, who had everything going for her. It wasn’t the saboteur (twist) that got her out, it was her own silly game play – which she did not have to overdo. We would have loved for it to go longer, but it didn’t. And the summer goes on! We ran this risk on every twist we’ve played…

Rich Meehan: Twin twist, America’s Player…

Grodner: Everything had this same risk associated with it. It is what it is with the game. It gave us a jolt, it was fun. But it’s not over yet!

Was it a Big Brother record, seeing the overt affection begin so quickly between Rachel and Brendon?

Grodner: He already professed his love and they’re already planning their wedding date! Tonight he actually says `I love you.’ Bren-chel is in it for the long haul.

Meehan: In (Wednesday’s show) he named them `Bren-chel.’

Grodner: I swear, I think we may get a Big Brother wedding out of this, not to mention that Jeff and Jordan are still together. Wouldn’t that be great? And Jeff will be back too. Jeff might be spending the night in the house in a couple of weeks so look out for that! I can’t say that Brendon and Rachel are the same as Jeff and Jordan; they are kind of the anti-Jeff and Jordan, but they are truly madly, deeply…there was a scene that we’ll figure out how to get in that played over the internet, where he starts to talk about how he’s going to introduce her to the family. He’s starting to worry about how his mom is not going to like her. At which point, she’s like, `What?’ It starts friction.

Can you tell Rachel that she doesn’t need to yell in the diary room?

Grodner: We’ve heard that. We will now. Rachel and Hayden are the yellers. It’s like, `give us some energy,’ and they get loud. We will tone them down.

Is there way that you can make the slop kosher for Andrew?

Grodner: Slop is that unique mixture that we get that has the protein and the vitamins, so it’s not just oatmeal. This week, because they have the baby food, there is kosher baby food and kosher oatmeal, so he’s eating big bowls of that. It was a challenge. We’ve never had someone with these kinds of restrictions in the house. And the fact that he’s even made it this long is amazng, considering he’s kind of socially awkward.

What do you think of the house so far?

Grodner: It’s always different. Last year, it was a split, angry house. This year, it’s nice because these people, even when they get mad at each other, are fine again pretty fast.

Meehan: Even when you don’t like them, you don’t despise them and don’t want to change the channel.

What happened to that tease from the saboteur that two houseguests have a lifelong relationship? Will you explain that?

Grodner: Eventually. But it’s been fun because that’s something that the houseguests are trying to figure out.

Why are you sequestering all the houseguests this year?

Grodner: We’ve done that in seasons past because of the expect the unexpected. That might happen. It’s become a safety net for us. If it plays into something, it plays into something. It may or may not.

Source: EW.com
 
Why are you sequestering all the houseguests this year?

Grodner: We’ve done that in seasons past because of the expect the unexpected. That might happen. It’s become a safety net for us. If it plays into something, it plays into something. It may or may not.
Obviously it's going to play into something, hence the following quote...

"The saboteur may not be dead after all! You’ll find out more tonight (July 29). Make sure you watch! We loved this twist. We were hoping it would go longer. But we don’t rig this show."
Was it a Big Brother record, seeing the overt affection begin so quickly between Rachel and Brendon?

Grodner: I swear, I think we may get a Big Brother wedding out of this. They are truly madly, deeply…
Gag me. Does she really like these two?
Grodner: Jeff will be back too. Jeff might be spending the night in the house in a couple of weeks so look out for that!
I guess one of Jeff's stops on "Around The World For Free" will be the BB house? That could be fun, but I fail to see how it would affect the game. Either way, I'm glad the producers at least have something planned to shake things up.
What do you think of the house so far?

Grodner:
It’s always different. Last year, it was a split, angry house. This year, it’s nice because these people, even when they get mad at each other, are fine again pretty fast.
In other words, they're boring, LoL.
 
It's interesting that Grodner said Annie might be coming back AND the saboteur twist might be implemented again. Even if Annie does come back, it won't be as the saboteur, because, well... everybody would know it's her, LoL. I wonder if they'll offer a special deal to one of the remaining HG's and ask if they want to be the new saboteur in addition to bringing back one of the previous evictees? That might be fun.
 
I am thinking that Andrew has an in and if he is booted tonight something will be revealed. Then, too, I think there is a connection between Brendan and Andrew besides an alliance.
 
Jeff will probably host a competition or something. That is about as smart as he gets.

Thanks Salemite, you have just given us the best post of the season and drug me out of complete boredom. I am having trouble watching even SHO AD.
 
I am thinking that Andrew has an in and if he is booted tonight something will be revealed. Then, too, I think there is a connection between Brendan and Andrew besides an alliance.


You maybe onto something there. I have a feeling they have cross paths in the past some how or some way. Maybe Ragan isn't the only gay house guest. Just Saying.:D:D
 
I think Andrew might be gay. I've never seen a straight man act like a diva.

Why not go out like Monet and not threaten to take everyone down with you?
 
Matt's HOH blog.....


HoH Blog Post #3: Matt
July 28, 2010

Hello America! It's your favorite guilty pleasure...the one you hate to love...the "brains" of The Brigade...the diabolical super-genius...Matt!!!

Having the opportunity to write this blog to you all is actually one of the aspects of HoH that I've been looking forward to the most. Here I can tell you all my deepest darkest thoughts about all my fellow houseguests.

I should start by saying that I really do genuinely care for everyone in this house on a personal level. On a game level, however, it's anything-goes and no one's emotions are safe. But personally...I love them all. I'm quite confident that after getting home and watching this season, I will have lost the friendships of at least half of this house. But the remainder that choose to forgive my deplorable game-character and see me for what I truly am (the greatest Big Brother player in the history of the game...yeah, I said it), I will be close to for years to come.

As a crazy super-fan of the show myself, I've always found Big Brother to be not just an entertaining show on a surface level, but also a fascinating social experiment. Being a part of it all makes me realize this even more. Never in my normal life would I end up befriending a meat-head jock (who would have most certainly logged many hours kicking my ass in high school), nor in my normal life would a Vegas bikini cocktail waitress ever give me the time of day. This meshing of subcultures is extraordinarily awesome, and for that I am insanely grateful to even be allowed to have this experience.



Okay, okay - enough with the sappy love-fest. I know...you want the dirt.

So, as you are aware, my nominations did not exactly go as originally planned this week. Not to worry, America! The diabolical super-genius is fast at work rectifying the situation! It's great to watch Andrew go completely mental, and in hindsight I think this is all going to work out BETTER for me than if the plan to backdoor Brendan went through as it was originally supposed to. At this point in time I feel completely safe next week, and I think the house still thinks I'm a total nitwit. Perfect on all accounts!

One thing I'm finding odd being here is how excited people get at the prospect of making it to the jury house. I've been hearing this since Day 1 in the house, but even more so now that there's only one or two evictions left until that happens. I just don't get it. That seems like such a loser mindset to me. If I'm not going to win anyway, then I'd rather just be sent home early so that I can get back to my normal life. For me, once the jury house starts getting populated there's absolutely no options other than to win this game. There's no way I'm going to be happy "just going to the jury house"! What kind of dopey accomplishment is that?!? Who brags to their friends about being a loser??? My housemates boggle my mind sometimes.

Speaking of my family, I guess now is a good time to give my personal shout-outs. First off, to my wife Stacy...WOW! - what a helluva HoH basket!!! In case you missed all of the awesomeness at home, America - here's just some of what my wife hooked me up with:

1. Enough of my favorite candies to last me literally the entire season 2. A zombie squirrel. 3. Her actual blanket that she sleeps with at home, so it still smells like her. 4. A shot glass from our wedding. 5. A pirate skull-and-crossbones flag. 6. Sliders!

However, the greatest part of the package was the letter from home. Stacy - you couldn't have written a more perfect note! I honestly read it every day. Literally the only major weight hanging over my head since I've been here is if you were super pissed with the lie about your fake disease. Although I told you before I left that I'd do anything outside of infidelity to win this game, I was thoroughly concerned that you were disgusted with my game play, and I fully expected to have divorce papers waiting for me in my HoH basket. When I read that letter saying how proud of me you were and how supportive you are of the way I'm playing the game and being true to myself, it gave me a newfound energy and vigor to win this thing! I also love how, in the span of one or two sentences, you could both feed my ego and then shoot me down again with a little jab. It was both flattering and humbling, and that's exactly what I need to hear right now. Thank you SO much again...I love you dearly and cannot wait to get back home to see you!

I'd like to also say hello to mom and dad! As Stacy said - I've basically been myself (hand down the pants and all), so hopefully I haven't caused you too much shame or embarrassment in your personal lives. But, then again, you created this monster - heheh. I love and miss you both very much as well. Please keep taking care of the little lady for me. I'm wondering if this paragraph was a waste to type, since you usually need me to show you how to work your computer. I'm guessing you'll never see this. Either way, the sentiment is there.

That ends yet another sappy break. Back to some Big Brother entertainment for you super-fans...

Let's talk about The Brigade, shall we. I believe that 70% of this game is skill, 25% is luck, and the last 5% is fate. I don't have much luck in my day-to-day life, so I was banking on a 75% chance of being the odds-on favorite this season to win. Thankfully, that little 5% of fate got sprinkled on me Day 1 as I fell into The Brigade. I truly believe that there has never been a greater alliance in Big Brother history. As I type this, there's not a single person in the house that suspects us in the least of having a four-person alliance. The beauty of The Brigade is that we all have our little "side-alliances". So as long as the main four-person Brigade remains under-wraps, then if any Brigade member gets put on the block they will more than likely be put up with their side-alliance member and not against another one of the Brigade members. It really is a brilliant operation. Hopefully Hayden can keep his focus on The Brigade instead of Kristen. They're making themselves more and more suspicious by the day of being the "secret friends", so he needs to be careful of that. The Brigade needs to be all four of our number-one priorities, and I'm thinking that Hayden may be losing focus.

The side-alliances are a good segue into talking about my personal side-alliance, Ragan. Ragan is definitely one-of-a-kind. Stacy loves gay men, and before I left for the show she told me to be sure to make friends with "the gay guy" in the house. I told her I didn't want to because they typically just hang out with all girls so that is horrible strategy to get involved with. Well, it turns out that (much to the delight of my wife, I'm guessing) "the gay guy" has inadvertently become my absolute closest friend in the house. He's really the only person that I feel any guilt about in regards to the lie about Stacy or even the lies that involve The Brigade. I know that he thinks we'd have each other's backs through to the Final Two, so it's unfortunate that I have to play him the way that I am. I hope that he can watch the show and understand that I'm just being a great game player and that it's nothing personal. But any connection you see between Ragan and myself is entirely genuine, and I can't really say that about anyone else at this point in the game. I'm going to keep him here as long as I can without outing The Brigade because he's a friend that I want to make sure that I have outside of this house for a very long time. We'll see what happens!

In regards to lies, I should address the major one surrounding my game play. Allow the following few paragraphs to clear the air for the large number of people who undoubtedly think I will be burning a slow eternity in hell for the lie I'm telling about my wife. In case you're not in on it already, I've been spreading around the house that my wife has a degenerative bone disease called Melarheotosis (which I have probably...no, definitely...just misspelled). I've been telling people that I don't really ever watch Big Brother (haha), but that Stacy is a huge fan and has convinced me to go on the show in order to win money to get her the necessary surgery that she needs to save her leg from being amputated. Furthermore, this fictitious surgery is not covered by insurance and will cost insane amounts of money to fund...

...Look, America - to win big, you have to play big. The reason that this story is so believable is because no one would be sick enough to lie about something like this. No one until me, that is. But that's what makes it the perfect way to garnish the sympathy I need! I only need four jury votes to win the $500,000, and I've already had three people tell me in confidence that they would not only vote for me, but that (because of my wife's "condition") they would even suggest to the jury that I should get the money if they were in the Final Two up against me!!! Haha - brilliant!...

Even though Stacy has a clean bill of health, this disease is something real. I heard about it on TV a year or two ago on some medical program. The facts I've been spewing about it are half real (from my memory of the show) and half completely fabricated. Either way, if I win this half-million then I definitely have this disease to thank (in part) for my victory. That being said, if I win the $500,000 I will absolutely be making a sizable donation to the research foundation for Melarheotosis. That's not something I'm doing only in an effort to clear my conscience (although I'm sure it'll help), but more as just a genuine feeling of both gratitude and sympathy for anyone suffering from the condition.

See...I'm not so evil after all! ;-)

Well, everyone - time is winding down here. I hope this has been a little bit interesting for you. If you've made it this far, then words cannot even begin to express my amazement at the time you'd invest in me. It's insane to me to think that anyone would even slightly care what I have to say or think (especially when I've rambled this much). So, to all of you reading this far...THANK YOU! Your support and encouragement is unbelievable, and it gets me choked-up to even think about. If any of you see me out in public when this is over, please do not hesitate to stop by and say hello. Unless you don't like me and want to punch me in the face...then please just leave me alone.

America - I love you! Stacy - I love you more! A thousand thank-yous again to everybody. You are all amazing!

See you on the other side,
--Matt


Discuss... :corn:

(I actually like it - first of all unlike Rachel's, it is COHERENT, and secondly, I gained a little more respect for him. And I liked the bit about Ragan)
 
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