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The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

Adrock-JD said:
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The season that just keeps on sleeping

how the hell did he fly through that maze like he did

Lane was a the only one close behind, then hayden

Kathy was back in the barn somewhere

Brendon yells out something when he won and they cut the feeds, of course
I think he was saying, "That's what you get when you vote out....." and then it went to bubble screen

Matt can remove himself or anyone else if he isn't nom (which would be a shock) and he can chose his replacement

too bad he can't replace with Brendon

Brendon can't play for hoh next week, so, he can't win from now on to stay in the house
The odds aren't in his favor in the long run
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If he hadn't won, he would be gone this week.
 
this week will most likely go like this:
Brendon noms Brit & Ragan
Brit will prob win her 4th veto, cuz shes frkin unbeatable(!)
and then Ragan and Matt will be up
Matt will use the diamond power and save himself, and replace himself with Kathy
Kathy will be evicted 5-0
so unless Kathy wins POV this week, i dont rly see her staying, Matt prob wants to keep Ragan around and Britney too because she and Matt have the best chance of winning the POV over Brendon
 
^ me too

he's no knight, he's a weak little pawn cry baby

Ragan crying a little bit in taj room by himself spoke to us
he said, "If you're watching on the feeds, I know it's stupid of me to cry, I don't know why I'm doing it"

not a direct quote but that's what he meant

Andrew Gordon says on his facebook page that he thinks either Rachel or one of the next two evicted hgs may be voted back in by America, so that's what Julie meant when she told Rachel, "You might not be done in the house yet."

He also said the diamond veto was new but somebody else said it has been in at least two other seasons
 
Adrock-JD said:
Ragan crying a little bit in taj room by himself spoke to us
he said, "If you're watching on the feeds, I know it's stupid of me to cry, I don't know why I'm doing it"
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Aww poor baby. He wasn't crying when he was making fun of Rachel and Brendon.
 
Oh please. They're all hypocrites. Rachel was bawling her eyes after being nominated and losing POV, even though she had just been a major bitch to Kristin and pretty much done the same thing to her and Monet.

Anyway, RAGAN AND LANE are nominated! Wow.

Not sure if there's a backdoor plan (Matt? Britney?) but I do know that Brendan talked to Brit before nominations, said he didn't want to put her up and wanted to make some kind of deal with her.

The worst of this is that stupid Diamond Veto. It's bad enough that Matt gets to save himself but it's even worse that he can pick the replacement nominee. That pretty much GUARANTEES a Brigade can't go home this week. For example, if Brendan had nominated Matt and Lane (or it Ragan comes off the block after POV and Matt goes up against Lane), Matt uses Diamond Veto and saves himself, puts up Kathy/Britney in his place and boom, the Brigade casts their three out of five votes to save Lane thereby evicting Kathy/Britney/Ragan.

Basically the Brigade is 100% safe this week and that sucks. They're so making it to F4.
 
What if Matt doesn't go on the block? Does that mean he can't use the Diamond Veto?
 
Lmao@putting up Lane

He probably doesn't even know what state he is in right now let alone what it means to be on the block.
 
Brendan's not as dumb as he looks/acts. I was hoping he would nominate these 2 when he first won HOH but I was afraid he'd be to stupid to do it. Obviously I want a brigade member to go but Ragan is just such a complete waste of a houseguest I'd prefer he go. ANd I cant wait to see the video package of Rachel greeting him i jury house after he talked all that shit. He's just so pathetic. He is actually worried about winning the video b/c he thinks Matt will go up.

And the more I think of it the brigade isnt that bad. They really aren't mean or malicious guys. Compared to past big Big Brother alliances they are pretty tame. When you look at obnoxious assholes like the 4 horsemen and the nerd herd, they're angels. I would only be disappointed if Matt won b/c he's so smug and arrogant. The rest of the guys arent that bad.
 
After that whole who do you think is an unseen threat business on Thursday, I am not stunned that Ragan was put up. He even named himself as a threat.
 
altlover85 said:
What if Matt doesn't go on the block? Does that mean he can't use the Diamond Veto?
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Matt can still use it...and he would be able to choose who the replacement nom would be.

It should be interesting to see if he would though. If neither Lane nor Ragan win PoV...I can't see Matt using it to save either of them. If he saved Lane...that would out his allegiance to Lane (as a brigade member)...anyone not in the brigade would be questioning why he saved Lane and not Ragan. Ragan would be pissed too. If he saved Ragan...the brigade members would not trust him anymore and wonder why he didn't save his fellow brigade member instead. I think Matt would let Ragan be sacrificed in that case.

It should be interesting though because I can easily see Ragan or Hayden winning the PoV (maybe even Lane would have a chance.) If the PoV gets used and Matt goes up and uses the DPoV to save himself...there's a lot of possible outcomes of who will wind up on the block and eventually get evicted. I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out...

aijalon18 said:
Brendan's not as dumb as he looks/acts. I was hoping he would nominate these 2 when he first won HOH but I was afraid he'd be to stupid to do it. Obviously I want a brigade member to go but Ragan is just such a complete waste of a houseguest I'd prefer he go. ANd I cant wait to see the video package of Rachel greeting him i jury house after he talked all that shit. He's just so pathetic. He is actually worried about winning the video b/c he thinks Matt will go up.

And the more I think of it the brigade isnt that bad. They really aren't mean or malicious guys. Compared to past big Big Brother alliances they are pretty tame. When you look at obnoxious assholes like the 4 horsemen and the nerd herd, they're angels. I would only be disappointed if Matt won b/c he's so smug and arrogant. The rest of the guys arent that bad.
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I agree with pretty much all you said.

As I think about the noms...they make perfect sense for Brendon. Brendon has always professed playing with integrity and that players who actually compete and win challenges should stay in the game. This is why I believe he did not nom Brit and Matt. He did nom their (seemingly) closest allies...which will/could weaken a strong pair. Brendon was also not going to nom Hayden or Enzo because he is trying to work out an alliance with them.

I'd be happiest if noms stayed the same and Ragan got to boot...he's been a disappointment. I like Lane and would like to see him stay, even though he hasn't contributed to the game so far, OTOH, I'd also like to see the Brigade take a hit. That hit would preferably be Enzo...although the likelihood of him going up on the block is practically nil this week.
 
I don't want Ragan to go until he has completed his sab duties and gets his $20 gs. I think that's only fair for him. I'd like to kick his scrawny ass for his ego jump when he won the sab jab, but I don't want him to leave with nothing.

I agree with Enzo in that it is time for them to forget trying to keep the brigade a secret. How could they get hurt at this point.

Lane has not played the game, and Rachel and Brendan talked about him a lot. Rachel also wanted the floaters gone and she was responsible for getting out 2 and aided in the 3rd one. Now there is Kathy and Ragan left and Kathy should be kicked out before she ends up winning.

Who has played the best game thus far? Brenchel and Matt. Britney has had a chance to put her mark on the game but has used her PoVs to little advantage but to save herself.
 
This is killing me! I don't think that Brit is playing in veto and with that stupid diamond veto floating around I almost wish she'd be nominated. Now if Ragan wins veto and Matt goes up Matt will obviously use the diamond veto and who's left to put up besides Brit and Kathy... and he's certainly not gonna waste it on Kathy.

I'm still not so sure Matt would use it unless he ABSOLUTELY needs it. I do think it would be better for Matt if some of the brigadiers went home it would be best for him and any individual in their alliance. But Matt in particular seems to have a stronger bond with Ragan and Brit than his own alliance and both of my lovely snarkies would be easier to beat at teh end.
 
aijalon18 said:
And the more I think of it the brigade isnt that bad. They really aren't mean or malicious guys. Compared to past big Big Brother alliances they are pretty tame. When you look at obnoxious assholes like the 4 horsemen and the nerd herd, they're angels. I would only be disappointed if Matt won b/c he's so smug and arrogant. The rest of the guys arent that bad.
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Complete cosign! I couldn't agree more! It's funny that Matt is the smuggest and gets credit as the "brain" when in reality he's the worst Brigade. Hayden, Enzo and Lane aren't that bad and they're certainly playing better than everyone else in the House right now.

Unless Matt betrays the Brigade though, that alliance is guaranteed to survive this week even if Brendan put two of them up (as I explained above).
 
falconfan said:
This is killing me! I don't think that Brit is playing in veto and with that stupid diamond veto floating around I almost wish she'd be nominated. Now if Ragan wins veto and Matt goes up Matt will obviously use the diamond veto and who's left to put up besides Brit and Kathy... and he's certainly not gonna waste it on Kathy.

I'm still not so sure Matt would use it unless he ABSOLUTELY needs it. I do think it would be better for Matt if some of the brigadiers went home it would be best for him and any individual in their alliance. But Matt in particular seems to have a stronger bond with Ragan and Brit than his own alliance and both of my lovely snarkies would be easier to beat at teh end.
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I'm worried about that too. On the feeds last night though Matt kept telling Ragan "just win veto, I'll take care of the rest" cryptically and Ragan was all "But then you or Brit would go up so it's lose-lose" and Matts all, "Just win POV, I promise I can fix the rest." It's possible he does intent to use Diamond only if he goes up and he intends to put up Kathy.

If Matt were half the player he thinks he is, honestly? He would use the Diamond regardless of whether the noms stayed the same or not, put Kathy on the block and let her go. If he had any skill, he could sell it as "I just want Kathy gone cuz I think she could float to the end" when in reality it would leave him firmly between two alliances -- The Brigade plus Britney/Ragan --with both sides taking each other out before going after him, and that's the BEST position to ever be in this game. It's how Will, Jun and Drew won.

Notice I said IF Matt had any game...I don't think he'll do it because I don't think he has the brains to come up with it or the skill to execute it.
 
Cosign on Aijalon's statement too. Rachel got a lot of people out before her exit and the Brigade has no blood on their hands.

If that's not smart, I don't know what is.
 
Well Hayden and Enzo have gained a very valuable tool in their Brendon puppet. They can continue to use him to do their dirty work while keeping their hands clean. If they're smart they'd drag him a little further. The question is it it smarter to try and take Brendon to the end at this point or take their chances against each other... I think Enzo would win but Hayen wouldn't be totally out of the race.

Also complicating issues is Brit's closeness to Lane. All and all I still think Kathy's going to float her way to the end as the goat.
 
^Yea Britney does love Lane. But he doesnt love her ass. He's an asshole to her and she doesnt even get it. Like when he told her and Ragan they were going up as soon as Brendon won.
Ive completely gone off of her b/c she's just a punk bitch. She's doing all this whining and crying instead of getting off her sorry ass and trying to make moves. And she hasnt even been funny in a while.
 
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