The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

[Hello-Good-Bi]

Well damn. I was hoping Bren would have won the live HOH!

I have to say that I really can't stand Hayden, especially after he took the trip to Hawaii and didn't own up to it, and insinuated that Matt was the one who took it. Hayden was the one who needed to get his lame hair shaved off, lol.
I'm rooting for Brit and Ragan now, by default, not because I'm crazy about either one of them.

 

[joesman]

This is probably off the subject but I always wonder when and how guys on shows like this ever get to masturbate . . . in the showers? in the HOH room? never noticed if the bathrooms are private.

There is a link on this thread somewhere showing Lane whipping one off in the shower, trying to pretend he is doing something else.

 

[topherlover555]

If Lane nominates Ragan and Enzo...then it would be hilarious to see Britney win POV, and then find out about the boys alliance, save Ragan and have Lane automatically nominate Hayden
THAT WOULD BE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR THE WEEK

 

[Sgt Pepper]

^^ That was my thought too! Lane is actually playing smart if he does this (he should not want to go to the finals with both Brigade boys, and even if his plan is to ultimately evict Ragan this week, it's better for his own game to keep Britney close to him) but I can't believe he's actually going to do it. On the other hand, there's no strategic reason for him to lie to Britney about nominations at this point, right?

 

[Adrock-JD]

Looking at jury votes, Lane/Hayden/Enzo would be risking backlash to take either Britney or Ragan to the final two.

I would think Lane or Hayden would prefer to have Enzo sitting next to them for the jury vote, because he was part of the brigade but he didn't accomplish anything else. Of course, that kind of "look what I've won" strategy didn't work either time for Russell in Survivor.

I'm not sure that Lane or Hayden have really pissed off a majority of the jury, even with potential additions of Britney and Ragan, to matter much if either of them were sitting next to Enzo for the final vote.

 

[Aratron]

Who would've thought Lydia and especially Jessie would vote for Jordan over Natalie?

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Looking at jury votes, Lane/Hayden/Enzo would be risking backlash to take either Britney or Ragan to the final two.

I could be reading this wrong, but I don't think Britney can win this game anymore. Her best shot to win a jury vote was evicted last night (Brendan). Her best shot left in the house would probably be Ragan, and they're definitely getting split up this week.

There's no way she could beat Hayden for jury votes, and I doubt she could beat Lane or Enzo either. At this point, she's likely playing for second place.

Who would've thought Lydia and especially Jessie would vote for Jordan over Natalie?

There was no doubt for me that Lydia would NOT vote for Natalie; she played with Natalie for game purposes, but she always disliked her (probably over the whole Jessie thing) whereas Jordan was generally well-liked in the house despite game allegiances, and jurors (for the most part) fundamentally vote for who they like more or dislike less.

Natalie lost Jessie's jury vote the moment he found out about her engagement, because Natalie had previously led Jessie to believe that she and he would have a relationship outside the house. I remember BB3 Danielle spotting that right away on a radio show (when we got our first look at the jury) and stating emphatically, "She doesn't have Jessie's vote anymore" because Jessie kept ratting her out every time a new jury member was added ("Natalie lied about her age") -- thereby proving that he was bitter, and grew to dislike her on the jury.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

More proof that Hayden is playing the best game so far. He just told Lane that they should indeed put up Enzo as a pawn because if Britney wins POV next week, it's important for her to think the three guys are NOT in an alliance. If she keeps thinking Lane is with her and not with Hayden, she'll be content to vote out Enzo next week instead of splitting Lane/Hayden. Sounds like Lane & Hayden want to go to F3 together and are willing to ditch Enzo at F4 if Britney wins F4 HOH or F4 POV.

This is excellent for both of them because Lane has a better shot in the finals against Britney than he does against Enzo/Hayden, and Hayden just needs to get to F3 and win the last comp because I doubt anyone would want to take him to F2. It's the best option for both of them and -- as with good players in BB -- recognizing that there is an overlap in their best interests this week allows them to work together for a F3 goal. I'm starting to really like these guys!

What I wanna know is, say Ragan wins POV this week. Lane would probably put Britney up against Enzo and then what happens? Ragan votes out Enzo, Hayden votes out Britney, forcing Lane to break the tie and...what does Lane do in that scenario? If he votes out Britney, he's likely to wind up in the finals with Enzo or Hayden, both of whom could beat him for jury votes. But if he evicts Enzo and tries to go F2 with Britney (his best shot), he likely loses Enzo's jury vote. Hmm...juicy...

 

[joesman]

Brit worrying about being pudgy. Mom at home would think she is getting pudgy. Lovely Mom who makes her daughter feel bad about how she looks.

 

[Yeehaw]

not a fan of the remaining ones but, as long as they kick out RATgon it's all okay with me.

 

[br2ze8]

If Lane has to choose between Britney and Enzo this week I think he will evict Britney because he wants to get to the final 2 with Hayden, and they both think they could beat Enzo in the last HOH. I think Hayden definitely wants Lane and Enzo with him in the F3, because that way he is almost guaranteed being in the F2.

 

[joesman]

I don't like Ragan - and I think it is a personal opinion and my reactions to him. But he and Britney, of the 5 remaining, have played better games to my entertainment and distaste than the others. So putting my distaste aside, I would give him a deserved win, if he does. Enzo, at this point, is the lesser player. His personality and likability mean nothing to me in this game show.

Did anyone watch BB AD last night? Was it me or did Ragan up the gay extreme mannerisms when they were talking in the kitchen about Brendan, Rachel, and going to Seattle?

 

[br2ze8]

I like the Brigade, and I hope Hayden wins, but it's time Enzo wins something. All he does is give excuses and then guarantees he will win the next competition. It's about time he steps up and wins something, or he might be going home.

 

[joesman]

It seems that Lane has dropped Ragan onto the block (ass up, no doubt) and Enzo of Jersey New along side him. The PoV will ultimately determine who is the goat and it could be anyone if Brit wins and takes Ragan off the block, Hayden or Enzo will be on their way to Rachelville. Vegas baby!

 

[falconfan]

Looking at jury votes, Lane/Hayden/Enzo would be risking backlash to take either Britney or Ragan to the final two.

I would think Lane or Hayden would prefer to have Enzo sitting next to them for the jury vote, because he was part of the brigade but he didn't accomplish anything else. Of course, that kind of "look what I've won" strategy didn't work either time for Russell in Survivor.

I'm not sure that Lane or Hayden have really pissed off a majority of the jury, even with potential additions of Britney and Ragan, to matter much if either of them were sitting next to Enzo for the final vote.

I think for Lane the best case scenario is Enzo and Brit. Enzo can't win comps and she can easily be convinced to take him even though he'd lose. Should Ragan go this week he'll be sitting pretty next week, not a single person will be gunning for him.

 

[falconfan]

If Lane nominates Ragan and Enzo...then it would be hilarious to see Britney win POV, and then find out about the boys alliance, save Ragan and have Lane automatically nominate Hayden
THAT WOULD BE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR THE WEEK

I would love that so much.

 

[falconfan]

Ragan and Enzo have been officially nommed. I just hope that Brit accidentally saves herself by winning the upcoming comps.

 

[Hello-Good-Bi]

Yes, let's hope Britney gets lucky in the next few comps! Its looking like bye bye for Ragan unless he wins tomorrow's POV.

 

[NotAlice]

Lets face it, Brit is far to dumb/blinded by cock to use the POV on Ragan. She has all but ignored him since the DE. She actually thinks she's an official member of the Boy's Club now

 

[falconfan]

Lets face it, Brit is far to dumb/blinded by cock to use the POV on Ragan. She has all but ignored him since the DE. She actually thinks she's an official member of the Boy's Club now

She may be by accident. She wanted a F3 Deal with Hayden and Lane and it might just happen one way or another.

I think right not the best final three for Ragan is R/B/E as Ragan stands his best chance against Brit and Enzo sucks at winning things/has no relationship with Brit

For Brit: B/R/L Brit is playing for second best. Maybe she could edge out Ragan either way Hayden and Enzo has no loyalty to her. Lane has very little and Ragan is likely smart enough to see it's best for him to keep Brit around.

For Hayden: I'd say it's best to have H/L/E. The best move for Hayden is to harp on Brigade loyalt and then convince Lane that Enzo is just too darn likeable. He'd be able to beat either with little effort and I think he could convince either failr easily to bring him... not that Enzo is winning the last HOH any time soon (But hey I would've said that about Jordy too)

For Enzo: E/L/R ? I don't know what Enzo's best move is. I'm pretty sure he'd lose against either of his boys and I don't think Brit would bring him to the end and I don't think he's gonna pull a Jordan and surprise us all so he can't take Brit. Lane would choose Hayden over him but might bring Enzo should his only other option be Ragan likewise Ragan would probably be beatable and bring Enzo over someone like Lane or Hayden.

For Lane: I think I described this above but I'd say L/H/B