The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

[MarkTheStud]

So Rachel will most likely be evicted and we will lose yet another woman, leaving us with only two. I don't think any season has ever had so many women leave so fast. The people this season are so stupid and I'm seriously over this season. Brendon would be a better pick to evict, Rachel has potential to bring so much drama especially if Brendon isn't there to hold her back. But without her there this season will continue to be a bore fest with roommates singing kum ba yah.

Hopefully there will be another season next year and we can forget about this season.

The fact that Rachel plays so personally is the reason two women (Monet and Kristen) have been evicted. Blame it on her.

Although we want drama, the houseguests don't... so it's logical for them to evict Rachel. I just hope Ragan stirs things up soon.

 

[Lostlover]

Wow, I swear, Ragen better do some crazy ass shit. Cuz his is getting pathetic

Maybe because this gimmick/manipulation is pathetic?

Ragan probably isn't a bad guy once you cut away the stereotypical gay guy. In saying that, next year BB would do themselves a favor if they stopped casting people who watched previous seasons as religiously as Matt and Ragan. It's really cheesy hearing them recite fun facts about past contestants.

 

[Roralot]

Maybe because this gimmick/manipulation is pathetic?

Ragan probably isn't a bad guy once you cut away the stereotypical gay guy. In saying that, next year BB would do themselves a favor if they stopped casting people who watched previous seasons as religiously as Matt and Ragan. It's really cheesy hearing them recite fun facts about past contestants.

Besides the hg's already knowing the seasons, apparently during the sequester leading up to the show, the only tv they had were previous seasons. That is another reason they quote them endlessly.

 

[joesman]

I think Ragan is an asshole complete. He has become so annoying I don't even want to see him or listen to him.

 

[aijalon18]

Ragan is is useless and terrible. He's like the worst stereotypical gay guy. He resigns himself to being a weak damsel in every scenario. He makes no moves of his own and leaves it up to the straight guys to run the game. I'm pretty sure he threw both HOHs to Matt. I'm guessing he accepted the role of saboteur b/c he has no faith in his abilities to make it to the end and actually win.

Say what you will about Rachel, but at least that bitch is fearless.

 

[Lostlover]

Ragan is is useless and terrible. He's like the worst stereotypical gay guy. He resigns himself to being a weak damsel in every scenario. He makes no moves of his own and leaves it up to the straight guys to run the game. I'm pretty sure he threw both HOHs to Matt. I'm guessing he accepted the role of saboteur b/c he has no faith in his abilities to make it to the end and actually win.

Say what you will about Rachel, but at least that bitch is fearless.

One thing I didn't like was his "I'm-the-flaming-gay-guy-laugh-at-me" routine he did in front of Brendan and Rachel when one of them was HoH.

Wasn't the guy that's doing gay porn now one of the worst stereotypical gay guys? Calling a black houseguest "colored" and other childish stuff he was too old to be doing (he's like 35 going on 15).

 

[aijalon18]

One thing I didn't like was his "I'm-the-flaming-gay-guy-laugh-at-me" routine he did in front of Brendan and Rachel when one of them was HoH.

Wasn't the guy that's doing gay porn now one of the worst stereotypical gay guys? Calling a black houseguest "colored" and other childish stuff he was too old to be doing (he's like 35 going on 15).

Stephen was my least favorite gay but he wasnt stereotypical. Remember they were trying to spin him as a modern-day brokeback mountain?

 

[Lostlover]

Stephen was my least favorite gay but he wasnt stereotypical. Remember they were trying to spin him as a modern-day brokeback mountain?

Yes they did... and then he went out and did a porno film like brokeback mountain.

Marcellus and Bunky(remember him? Probably the most stereotypical gay guy on BB) were flaming like Ragan. But they were all morally intact unlike Stephen (IMO).

I can't quite say that about Stephen by his behavior. I said it then and I'll say it now. He was trying to convince Americans you can be gay and a redneck at the same time.

 

[falconfan]

I think this cirticism of Ragan is a bit unfounded but overly expected as I've never seen a gay forum being happy with any gay on any reality show, especially big brother. I find him to be a nice guy who is pleasant and amusing, probably second (a distant second but second) to Brit in that respect. He took the deal because he didn't have choice. There is not a doubt in my mind that when these 'offers' are made they're not offers. Production is not going to risk losing this twist again. And if he did throw those challenges good for him! Winning endurance is the best way to keep a taget affixed on your back. People always remember the endurance winners as 'strong' and they remember that there is an endurance in the final HOH. WHy do you think Erika tossed it to Danielle? You don't win that competition unless you HAVE to. Also I'm sure that's why he used his veto ticket... they likely made him.

 

[joesman]

^^^ Ragan has become the gay guy who wants to hang with the cool people. When Brenchel were HoH he was all up their asses. Rachel even had him spending the night in the HoH. Now when she asked to talk to him he refused once, and when she asked a second time hours later he told her later. She told him she had already asked twice and he snapped at her "I'll talk to you when I'm ready." He could at least have been civil to her because she has been a friend to him, even telling everyone what a great kid he is "I love that kid," she said several times to other hgs. Rachel has her bad moments in the house and she is a fierce competitor. She deserves better than all the snotty people joking and laughing behind her back.

If Ragan is the saboteur then he deserves it. He will have earned all the hate that comes with it. And they can't force him to be saboteur.

No matter what one of the brigade asswipes are going to win this unless they are exposed and undone.

As I have said before I have no favorite in this game because there is something about everyone of them that irks the hell out of me.

 

[slipintothefog]

Ragan is just OK to me. He's not the vile depths of previous Big Brother gays like Joshuah, but he comes off as very boring, whether in- or outside of the Diary Room. Kevin, on the other hand, was funny in his DR sessions.

This season is going to fall over and lose any momentum it had (which was little) if Rachel gets evicted this week. She's been pretty much the only source of drama so far, save for Hayden and Kristen being exposed and then Kristen being evicted the very next week. Britney is awesome but she's really only a snarky Courtney Yates-esque side character and not somebody who can carry the entire show on her own.

 

[Lostlover]

Matt: Feeling any better Rach?
Rachel: Nope.
Matt: Sorry kiddo.
Rachel: Kiddo!
Matt: Come on!
Rachel: I just think I don't deserve to go home. Even if I had beat Kathy, I had to beat 7 other people.
Matt: It's flattering.
Rachel: It's not flattering. I don't deserve to go home.
Matt: It's not personal.
Rachel: It is personal. Ragan won't even talk to me.
Matt: I saw that.
Rachel: I am on the block, and I'm on the block against someone I love. You can't talk to me when you were my friend. Kathy can't apologize? It's just two words.

Kathy has to apologize to you for playing the game?

Oh yeah...

Narcissistic personality disorder: "The exploitativeness, sense of entitlement, lack of empathy, disregard for others, and constant need for attention inherent in NPD adversely affect interpersonal relationships."

Damn that sounds like her to the T especially with what she is telling Matt above. She's "entitled" to be in the game still.

 

[slipintothefog]

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Oh Rachel, please don't leave. Where else will I get my laughs this season?

 

[PATMAN]

LMAO!!! Thats gold.... hahahahaha

 

[falconfan]

So I noticed that on Hamsterwatch Lane is in the pool. Does that mean there may actually be some shirtless screencaps of him out there? Because I've yet to see it and I'm curious.

 

[Lovegame]

i felt bad for Rachel. Brenden can't win a fucking HoH? really? i mean, Im not defending Rachel, because her behavior the last week was stupid. but besides that, she's been good with competitions. and the one time she really needed, he couldnt step up. how pitiful. With Brenden and Rachel gone, the show is going to get boring, especially if the brigade is still a secret.

team britney at this point

 

[outrageous4u]

Ugh they wasted the diamond veto on Matt. They should have brought it in last week. At least, Rachel would use it.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

I think this cirticism of Ragan is a bit unfounded but overly expected as I've never seen a gay forum being happy with any gay on any reality show, especially big brother. I find him to be a nice guy who is pleasant and amusing, probably second (a distant second but second) to Brit in that respect. He took the deal because he didn't have choice. There is not a doubt in my mind that when these 'offers' are made they're not offers. Production is not going to risk losing this twist again. And if he did throw those challenges good for him! Winning endurance is the best way to keep a taget affixed on your back. People always remember the endurance winners as 'strong' and they remember that there is an endurance in the final HOH. WHy do you think Erika tossed it to Danielle? You don't win that competition unless you HAVE to. Also I'm sure that's why he used his veto ticket... they likely made him.

Complete cosign! I've started to like Ragan a little more too the more time he spends with Britney; those two are HILARIOUS on the feeds together and I'd love to see them both make it to F2.

And yeah Lane has been shirtless in the pool a few times and I can confirm he has a nice chest. No man boobs like I'd feared!

 

[aijalon18]

To say everyone is being hard on the gay guy as usual is bullshit. Most people wanted to like Ragan in the beginning despite is extra queeny nature. But he is pathetic in this game.

Ragan is an idiot for throwing comps. Throwing competitions is NOT always good gameplay/strategy. Or rather it's not good strategy on it's own. You also need a good social game going on the side.
And being a little gay jester like Ragan is not a good social game. He needs to be finding out alliances, not trusting people completely, have back up plans, and influence other people's opinions.

 

[philusmc]

The fact that Rachel plays so personally is the reason two women (Monet and Kristen) have been evicted. Blame it on her.

Although we want drama, the houseguests don't... so it's logical for them to evict Rachel. I just hope Ragan stirs things up soon.

Do the house guests actually decide who to evict? Or is this all predetermined by the producers? Always wondered just how much this is scripted and manipulated.