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The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

Gatorguy said:
I think she is really funny, but it almost always comes at the expense of others. In other words, if she wasn't talking so horribly about her housemates, I'm not sure she could keep you entertained.

I think she takes a lot of really cheap shots behind a person's back, and then she will be nice to someone like Rachel in person. I think that's the reason why she seems so "sleazy". I don't think in this case it's because of her mounting/climbing on Lane even though she is supposedly engaged, but because she is so treacherous.
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Mounting Lane. If these guys don't jerk off secretly somewhere (I remember Lane saying he does it in the shower in the little edge that partially hides him) they must be ready to explode. So if she mounts Lane and he is horny she certainly is feeling his uh manhood pressing against her. Just as Kristen felt Hayden's, and she liked it, she liked it.
 
^LMAO. That is the best video ever. He think she's really fooling the camera too. He's like one of those guys that goes in the carpool lane driving solo and tries to put a hat near the passenger seat.
 
aijalon18 said:
^LMAO. That is the best video ever. He think she's really fooling the camera too. He's like one of those guys that goes in the carpool lane driving solo and tries to put a hat near the passenger seat.
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Yes. To me he looks like he is smelling his fingers and then putting whatever in his ear. He also looks like a porn star when he throws his head back.
 
Sgt Pepper said:
So true. It's the same reason I couldn't stand Daniele from BB3 (even though she actually had skill as a player) because she kept talking about how smart she was all the time. Same with Russell from Survivor who is vastly overrated and has actually shown himself to be a BAD player.

Thus far, I'm underwhelmed by Matt.
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Didn't Dan do the same though?
 
From Jokers:

Matt telling Hayden he is loyal to the Bridage to the end and Hayden just stares in silence.

Matt says that if he finds out other Brigade members are doing shady shit they will lose his vote.

Matt spoke to a producer (Rich) who apologized to him for pretzelgate 'for future seasons.' During Rachel's 24-hour visit to the house, she left a message for Brendon in pretzels spelling out who she wanted him to nominate.
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Re: the bolded part, is that an innocent threat or is he trying to justify ahead of time using the DPOV to backdoor Enzo/Hayden?
 
Hmm... I think Matt's talking about Enzo/Lane/Hayden here.

RAGAN: When it gets down to answering question from the jury, the final two has to be able to say "I made this move" or "I made that move." But nobody...

MATT: This whole season is full of people who aren't game players. Letting everyone else win stuff. Nobody is making moves this season. (Ain't that the truth...)

I'm thinking he's getting a little tired of dragging them along. They're a dead weight alliance. Their only strength is numbers -- nothing more.
 
Why does Matt and Ragan keep saying Brendan is a coward? I haven't seen anything that indicates he has been cowardly with anyone.

I think Matt would seriously consider Brendan as the winner if Brendan made final 2 after everyone has wanted him out for the whole season.

Kathy, after being up Brendan's butt since he won HoH was saying to Matt and Ragan that they have to get him out. This woman is a worthless player.
 
Matt spoke to a producer (Rich) who apologized to him for pretzelgate 'for future seasons.' During Rachel's 24-hour visit to the house, she left a message for Brendon in pretzels spelling out who she wanted him to nominate.
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Why are the producers apologizing to Matt and acting like Rachel did something wrong when they're the ones who told her to "be creative" with the message she left for Brendon?

They need to just be honest with him. They wanted him on the block so the DPOV would be used and they were willing to bend the rules to make it happen. Apologizing for it after the fact doesn't do any good. There are multiple cameras in every room of that house. It wouldn't have been hard for a producer to see Matt's name spelled out in pretzels and simply put the pretzels back in the bag during an outdoor lockdown. Acting like they had no clue about it until it was too late is just silly. Who do they think they're fooling?
 
Because if they apologize to Matt it'll be easier for them to manipulate him because he has a narcissist streak. DUH. In related news I'm glad that the producers are hoping for the same storyline I am. Hopefully they'll get Matt onto the betrayal kick strong enough to divide the house and make a divide to last the season.

Also... is Hayden legitimately the best gameplayer of the season? I'm confused but the answer seems to be yes.
 
LoL, Matt is planning to leave a "fuck you" pretzel message to Brendon tomorrow to let him know that he knows about the pretzel message Rachel left.

Meanwhile, I love that Matt has threatened Hayden by telling him that if any brigade member ends up in the Final 2 with Matt under suspicious circumstances, his jury vote will go to Brendon.
 
falconfan said:
Because if they apologize to Matt it'll be easier for them to manipulate him because he has a narcissist streak. DUH. In related news I'm glad that the producers are hoping for the same storyline I am. Hopefully they'll get Matt onto the betrayal kick strong enough to divide the house and make a divide to last the season.
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Exactly. He loves the idea that they made a special personal apology to him. He likes to think the game and the world revolves around him and his genius decisions. He reminds me of the Brain from Pinky and the Brain. And he looks like sniveling rat.
 
Falconfan, I'm with you on Hayden's underrated, unflashy but stealth gameplay.

Aratron, I liked Dan and he did dissect his moves for us in the DR, but no he did not spend hours talking about how awesome and brilliant he was, and how he was the best player of all time (something Matt has already done). In fact Dan gave people like Keesha and Memphis credit for having game of their own (unlike Survivor Russell) and the most damming evidence of all is the most simple: unlike BB3 Daniele and Survivor Russell, Dan actually won his season. And as the only BB winner thus far to get every single jury vote, I'd say he actually has reason to call himself a great player (though he never really did).
 
aijalon18 said:
Exactly. He loves the idea that they made a special personal apology to him. He likes to think the game and the world revolves around him and his genius decisions. He reminds me of the Brain from Pinky and the Brain. And he looks like sniveling rat.
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Doesn't he though? LOL. I've thought Matt was gross looking from the start, and his shifty/fidgety persona is annoying. Ragan really must have a thing for rodentine guys because Matt is TERRIBLE at selling things -- and has never fully and convincingly reciprocated any of Ragan's alliance overtures -- and still Ragan projects all these game-loyalty qualities on to Matt. It's pretty hard to watch actually.

In other news -- and Salemite, you could probably answer this -- do we know for sure that Rachel really left that pretzel message? The producers didn't seem to care if their super-couple was reunited at all, and wouldn't it be just like them to sneak into Brenda's room during the lockdown and rearrange some pretzels?
 
Well I'd imagine the pretzel story had to have first come from Brendon. It could easily be a cover for the fact he got to spend time with Rachel and didn't want to out right tell everyone that Rachel conveyed everything to him.
 
Ragan has placed a note under Enzo's pillow that says "I know your secret." This was apparently one of his saboteur tasks.

Enzo's reaction should be fun.
 
falconfan said:
Well I'd imagine the pretzel story had to have first come from Brendon. It could easily be a cover for the fact he got to spend time with Rachel and didn't want to out right tell everyone that Rachel conveyed everything to him.
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During AD, Rachel and Kathy were talking to each other about the message Rachel left. Kathy was in the bathtub at the time, obviously before Rachel left.
 
Sgt Pepper said:
Doesn't he though? LOL. I've thought Matt was gross looking from the start, and his shifty/fidgety persona is annoying. Ragan really must have a thing for rodentine guys because Matt is TERRIBLE at selling things -- and has never fully and convincingly reciprocated any of Ragan's alliance overtures -- and still Ragan projects all these game-loyalty qualities on to Matt. It's pretty hard to watch actually.
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LMAO it is pathetic. He's always like "I'll do whatever it takes to save you!" and Matt just shrugs his shoulders. Then all of Ragan's tears b/c his precious Matt would replace him on the block. And all this time Matt hasnt promised him a damn thing.
 
aijalon18 said:
LMAO it is pathetic. He's always like "I'll do whatever it takes to save you!" and Matt just shrugs his shoulders. Then all of Ragan's tears b/c his precious Matt would replace him on the block. And all this time Matt hasnt promised him a damn thing.
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And Ragan went on another crying jag on AD last night with Kathy (Miss non existent) rubbed his back and Matt sat with his leg over Ragan's leg. Ragan keeps saying Matt doesn't deserve to be on the block because he has such integrity. He also said he has become every stereotype of gay person and he regrets that. He who had it all figured out. Matt promises him nothing. Another case where I would like to see these people watch themselves after BB ends. Ragan should be totally shocked at his stupidity, and Matt's lack of integrity.

I am going to be pissed if the network show doesn't show Ragan bawling his eyes out every 10 minutes.

I agree with Annie. Ragan's sab has been so easy for him. But we know ragan will collect his 20 grand now.

I am also interested in the pretzelgate thingie. If they apologize to Matt then they should have been on their knees begging jen to forgive them for allowing Evil Dick to throw cigarettes at her and verbally abuse her and throwing water on her. That was the most terrible thing I have seen on BB.
 
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