The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

[aijalon18]

^Yay a gay guy getting into childish catfights with a girl is a top trending topic! I love technology.

 

[falconfan]

Also it's noteworthy that matt has been sayign for a while he's mad at Kathy because she could've she had information (about pretzelgate) to save him but withheld it. I think they went as far as speculationg because she was the the sab she may have actually done it. Whether he believes it or not he's been building himself a case for bding Kathy which sucks because if Ragan or Brit win they'll put up Brendan and a brigadeer and the Bridage will likely sneak away.

 

[Lostlover]

Before everyone goes in, I personally wasnt offended by Rachel asking if Ragan was a bitch b/c he's gay? Ragan deserved it. He is the typical bitchy, gossipy, Perez Hilton, worthless homosexual is is nice to the popular girl until she falls from grace and is the first to turn their back to them.

She was his friend and he was unnecessarily cruel to her we he felt he no longer needed to be nice. The way he was sashaying around the room and talking all that shit, it was the perfect question.

And fuck all the other housemates for acting all shocked and appalled. As if it is the worst most homophobic thing theyve ever heard. I know all the Brigade guys and their friends have said much worse.

Cosign. I don't agree with siding with someone just because he is gay too. That'd reverse discrimmination.

 

[Salemite]

Lane and Britney had an argument/fight/disagreement/whatever you want to call it earlier. They were talking about the number of days they have left in the house and for some reason Lane looked into the camera and said "Nick, how the hell do you put up with Britney? She never lets you get a word in edgewise!"

Britney got upset at Lane bringing up her fiancee's name and ran out of the room crying.

 

[J-23]

Cosign. I don't agree with siding with someone just because he is gay too. That'd reverse discrimmination.

I agree. What Rachel meant to say was "Do you feel compelled to be the token bitch this season just because you're gay?" (see: BB3/7 Marcellas, BB8 Joe, BB9 Joshuah, etc.). It was just poorly articulated. She clearly isn't homophobic.

I adore Rachel and was truly sad to see her go last week. As quick as she was to liken herself to Janelle, I'd say that BB8 Jen is a more apt comparison: They were both sincere, positive, strong women who failed in the game because of the other houseguests' unwillingness to think for themselves.

Lane and Britney had an argument/fight/disagreement/whatever you want to call it earlier. They were talking about the number of days they have left in the house and for some reason Lane looked into the camera and said "Nick, how the hell do you put up with Britney? She never lets you get a word in edgewise!"

Britney got upset at Lane bringing up her fiancee's name and ran out of the room crying.

Lmao. Aw, their first lover's quarrel. And Britney goes around calling Rachel a skank. That's rich.

 

[Surgeon General]

No I am playful like that with my real friends. but even that has it's limits. We have already established that Matt is not Ragan's real friend at all. Matt has told him so many lies that he didnt need to tell, uses him, and is pretty much humiliating him.


Ragan has put himself on the line to save Matt. If Matt gave a shit about Ragan at all or half as much as Ragan cares about him, he would let him know about the diamond veto and get him to chill out and stop fucking up his own game.

How long have they known each other dude?
Good for Regan, but it is a competition for a lot of money...

 

[Surgeon General]

No I am playful like that with my real friends. but even that has it's limits. We have already established that Matt is not Ragan's real friend at all. Matt has told him so many lies that he didnt need to tell, uses him, and is pretty much humiliating him.


Ragan has put himself on the line to save Matt. If Matt gave a shit about Ragan at all or half as much as Ragan cares about him, he would let him know about the diamond veto and get him to chill out and stop fucking up his own game.

Oh and as for what you've established, cbs edits the fuck out of these. You haven't really established jack shit.

 

[falconfan]

Watching the show right now and I have to give props to the story dept. They had relatively little info to deal with and they did a good job of making something out of it.

 

[Salemite]

HoH Blog Post #6: Brendon

This is Brendon and these are my words. I would first like to tell my family and friends how much I miss all of them and love them all very much. A person never quite understands how important people are in their lives until they are completely inaccessible. Alexx, I hope school is going well and your sophomore year is off to a great start. I am missing our study sessions, our coffee and our weekend movies. I am so very proud of you and know that I think about you every day. Allyson, Mom, Dad, Katelyn.... your letter and thoughts have helped push me in this game. I am sure you were all wondering what has been going on in my crazy life, but hopefully you have seen much of it. I finally met and fell in love with someone who is everything I want in another person. Rachel is quite the handful, but an amazing girl with one of the sweetest hearts I have ever encountered and a passion for science near to my own. Joe, I hope your fight is going well and you are staying strong. Know that while I am in here you have never left my thoughts. To my friends, I miss you all. Tim, I am sorry I missed the birth of your baby, but know that I hope everything went well and I send my love. Tony, Matt, Woody, Bubs, Gary, LA, all of you guys. Meet me in Vegas when this is all over. Ashley I hope the Chirop. trip went well.

For the Fans: This week has been one of the toughest I have been forced to endure since entering the Big brother house. I came in and was targeted the first week for no apparent reason. On the block I met a most amazing individual who showed me that good people still exist in this crazy world. After only two days of getting to know me, Rachel was willing to pull me off the block should she have won the POV. Insane, I know. From the time I won the first POV to Rachel going home last week, it has been a tough battle for the two of us to stay in this house. As difficult as it has been I would do it all again in a heartbeat. I have completely fallen in love with her. While we have experienced ups and downs in this house, I have only discovered that this has proven our love to be all that much more real. I wanted the house to vote me out so she could have stayed here for longer b/c she wants to be here so bad. I would do anything for her. Since they chose not to do so, they will now have to pay. Britney and Ragan have been two of the most malicious and callous people in this game. They are my two targets when matt leaves this week. When I discovered that Rachel had been in the house the entire time I was on my 24 hr vacation, I was saddened. After I discovered all the conversations she had shared with the houseguests and how much love she expressed for me, it made me a bit happier. I am so cheesy and corny at times and perhaps a bit pathetic, but know that everyone came in to this game alone. Inside this house I not only found a best friend, but someone I would like to share the rest of my life along side. I miss Rachel every day, but I know that I am fighting for the both of us now.

Player BreakDown:

Matt: Matt has been a very manipulative character right from the start. Having called him out week 2, he was ultimately the reason Rachel went home. He is part of the trio that creates so much drama in this house and whose arrogance led to his downfall. I understand that he is fighting for his wife, which was why I wanted to keep him in here. Rachel left me a message saying that she wanted him out, since I promised to defend her honor, I must carry out her wishes. As much as I wanted to backdoor Britney and send her home, Matt did make the decision to put Rachel and I up against each other, which was his mistake. I feel bad for him, but last week none of those three in the have not room showed Rachel sympathy.

Ragan: Ragan has banked on the fact that his effeminate personality would allow him to slide through the game thinking most would believe he is not much of a threat. Week 2 when Ragan was balling his eyes out in the Have Not room, Rachel and I were the only two there for him. He was best friends with Rachel and loved her to death. By week 4 he was best friends with Kristen, the very girl who was trying to target Rachel and I. Ragan is a turncoat who has hid behind Matt and let him get all of the blood on his hands. When I won HOH this week, the first thing him and Britney did was go cry in the Have Not room b/c they remembered what jerks they were to Rachel last week. Ragan is fake and he spends his time trying to make good with the masculine males in the house, hoping to help his position once Matt is gone. Ragan believes himself to be one of the strongest players also, which adds to his arrogant and stubborn nature. Any discussion that results in disagreement will surely end with Ragan refusing to accept anyone else's point of view.

Britney: Britney is everything that a middle class person could easily come to resent. I have tried not to let too much of it bother me, but it is a struggle. She is a rich, entitled brat who has spent a good portion of her childhood competing in beauty pageants and flying all over the World, yet she touts herself as "middle class." Again, disgusting to anyone who is actually middle class. She mistreats people in the house, is rude to many and has not once picked up or cleaned anything. She is a strong player in terms of BB knowledge, but a very weak physical player. She has a good chance of making it far, but the way she treats people, no chance of winning the $500K. She is definitely my next target.

Lane: Lane is a very easy going, middle of the road personality. Very likable, but also easy to fly under the radar. I think he has been throwing comps to advance game. Rachel and I know he lied about some things to Britney, which seemed uncharacteristic. I have no doubt he is the saboteur. Furthermore, I believe him and Hayden are the long time friends. Hope he isn't mad he was a pawn.

Enzo: Absolutely hilarious, as I am sure you can see. He is not a strong player and we are trying to groom him to win quiz competitions, but I am still worried. I need him to win. I am afraid he thinks he will be able to skate by. This may work for a while, but not for much longer.

Kathy: I love Kathy for being herself. She is not a strong player and I know she had said to others that she would put Rach and I up if she won, but I think that was Kathy trying to survive. She is a sweet woman and w/o her this house would be filthy. She will make it to the end b/c everyone thinks they can beat her at anything.

Hayden: Hayden has become someone I trust more but still am wary in regards to the possible long time friendship w/ Lane. I will trust him b/c I have nobody else now. I think he is strong and believe that he knows if i go, he is next.

Forecast:

If Britney or Ragan win this week I believe I will be up on the block. It is inevitable, but essentially the witch-hunt is still afoot. This season is not about intelligent players or strong alliances, it is about everyone looking out for themselves. People throw each other under the bus like it's going outta style. I know my war is going to be a long one should I win this whole thing, but I am strapping myself in for the ride. I am representing three people; myself, Rachel and Andrew. The latter two gave their lives in this game so I could get to where I am.

Closing:

This has been one of the most amazing experiences I have ever had the pleasure of receiving. I am sad that I cannot be here with Rachel, but I know that she wants me to fight hard. I apologize to all the fans if I have appeared to be a jerk or an a-hole, but all I really wanted was for Rachel to stay, as she had wanted it so badly. I know that perhaps the two of us have appeared poorly at times, but know that it was hard feeling like every single week here, people were looking for any excuse to get rid of one of us. It was hard to keep our spirits up, especially feeling that all we had done was fall in love. After this is all over, I am hoping she will move to LA in support of my career as a Biomedical Physicist and to pursue her own career as a scientist. I am an absolutely lucky man to have met her. As hard as it will be from here on out, I would do it all again w/o hesitation. To my family and friends, I am sorry if I have embarrassed any of you, but I also trust that you know who I am. To my friends, forgive me if I left anyone out, but I did not have much time. To all the fans of the show, please continue to watch, b/c at times I especially feel that I am now completely alone in this house. When I have conversations at night in the HOH room, I am hoping at least one of you is listening. This experience is much different than it appears on television. It seems so easy and so much fun. The truth is that w/o the normal activities of a typical day, boredom and solace may easily overtake your spirit. It is 3 days at 120 mph, followed by 4 at 5 mph. It is like no other emotional roller coaster I have experienced. We miss the small things. Kiss and hug all of your family members and loved ones for me, as I am unable to do so at the present. I appreciate and love everyone who makes this show possible, especially the relentless fans that tune in every week. I hope to write you again soon. Peace to all.

-Brendon

 

[Salemite]

I finally met and fell in love with someone who is everything I want in another person. Rachel is quite the handful, but an amazing girl with one of the sweetest hearts I have ever encountered and a passion for science near to my own.

VOMIT.

I came in and was targeted the first week for no apparent reason.

"Targeted for no apparent reason?"

How about you immediately jumped into a showmance with the biggest whore in the house and flaunted it in front of everyone's face? That's as good a reason as any to target someone.

On the block I met a most amazing individual who showed me that good people still exist in this crazy world.

VOMIT.

After only two days of getting to know me, Rachel was willing to pull me off the block should she have won the POV. Insane, I know.

You're right. Insane.

I have completely fallen in love with her. While we have experienced ups and downs in this house, I have only discovered that this has proven our love to be all that much more real. I would do anything for her.

VOMIT.

Britney and Ragan have been two of the most malicious and callous people in this game.

And your girlfriend hasn't?

Fuck you Brendon.

They are my two targets when matt leaves this week.

Unfortunately for you, Matt's not going anywhere this week. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, douchebag.

I am so cheesy and corny at times and perhaps a bit pathetic...

Pathetic is a good word for it.

 

[altlover85]

I actually don't mind Brendon and he seemed very articulate and heartfelt in that message. I really can't understand how he doesn't realize what a target he put on his back by isolating himself with a showmance.

He's not a very good player, but if he made it to the end or even final three, I think my opinion of him (as a player in the game) would change.

 

[J-23]

How about you immediately jumped into a showmance with the biggest whore in the house and flaunted it in front of everyone's face?

How is Rachel a "whore"? Did she sleep with multiple men in the house? Nope. You must be thinking of Britney, the engaged woman who spends her every free second flirting with another man in front of an international audience.

I didn't realize that wearing make-up and provocative clothing constitutes being a "whore." I guess that would make Janelle the hugest "whore" that Big Brother has ever seen.

 

[falconfan]

How is Rachel a "whore"? Did she sleep with multiple men in the house? Nope. You must be thinking of Britney, the engaged woman who spends her every free second flirting with another man in front of an international audience.

I didn't realize that wearing make-up and provocative clothing constitutes being a "whore." I guess that would make Janelle the hugest "whore" that Big Brother has ever seen.

Well DUH. Janey was just a loveable whore.

 

[J-23]

Well DUH. Janey was just a loveable whore.

She was relatively likable. Almost anybody would seem like a stellar personality in contrast to Eric, Ivette, Maggie, etc. Had she been in a house with predominantly good-hearted people (season 10, for instance), she would certainly have been a villain. Let's not forget her undying love for Dick and Daniele.

 

[Kensei]

Wow, Brendon is quite delusional. Kathy shit talks him all day and he's upstairs writing about how nice she is while he actually thinks there's life long friends - Lane and Hayden at that - sitting in the house. He even thinks Lane is the saboteur. Heh. Can't wait to see him go.

To be honest, I'm hopping for Enzo to be replaced tomorrow to shake down the Brigade.

 

[altlover85]

I found Janelle very likeable. She may not have been the nicest, but she was my favorite BB contestant ever.

I didn't mind Dick and Danielle, but I can totally see why others didn't like them.

 

[topherlover555]

IMO the best BB players are Dan (10), James (6) and Danielle (3) from previous
i love Britney now, and i respected Michelle and Jeff from last season as well
Dan was the only worthy winner so far
I think a lot of ppl dislike britney, but it seems to me that her whole lying and scheming is working well. Shes been able to manipulate Brendon and Rachel's power very well and though a lot of ppl dont trust her (I.E. Enzo), she'll be able to win her way out of any situation.
If she goes to Final 2 i would consider her one of the most amazing players, she jst has to convince the jury that her attitude worked well as gameplay.

 

[falconfan]

She was relatively likable. Almost anybody would seem like a stellar personality in contrast to Eric, Ivette, Maggie, etc. Had she been in a house with predominantly good-hearted people (season 10, for instance), she would certainly have been a villain. Let's not forget her undying love for Dick and Daniele.

Her undying love for other people loving her you mean? Janey will always fawn over whoever the favorite is. She loves attention and approval and I love her for it.

 

[falconfan]

I found Janelle very likeable. She may not have been the nicest, but she was my favorite BB contestant ever.

I didn't mind Dick and Danielle, but I can totally see why others didn't like them.

Janey gave it as good as she got. She was bitchy but not malicious and not a bully. Thus she was lovable.

 

[falconfan]

Also in general this has got to be the most loosely knit/double talking group ever. Everytime I check on jokers X is talking to Y about how much he/she hates A,B, and C. Like will one of you formulate a plan and a confidant so I can follow this?