The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

[Sgt Pepper]

How is Rachel a "whore"? Did she sleep with multiple men in the house? Nope. You must be thinking of Britney, the engaged woman who spends her every free second flirting with another man in front of an international audience.

Flirting is harmless, Britney has never once cheated on her fiance with Lane.

Rachel is a whore because she has talked in the House about being in orgies and -- more pertinently -- she has boasted to the other houseguests (including Brendon) about having sex with multiple men for money! She also said she would want to CONTINUE fucking other men for money, even after she and Brendon are married.

I don't know what dictionary you're using but the definition of "whore" is someone who has sex for money.

 

[aijalon18]

Janey gave it as good as she got. She was bitchy but not malicious and not a bully. Thus she was lovable.

i love Janelle but she was malicious at times. Especially in her season. But it was only after she and Kaysar were profoundly screwed by the Nerd Herd. Before that she didnt say too much bad about them, she kinda just did her own thing and played chess. They, on the other hand, said awful things about her from day one.And in all stars, she was too busy trying to fight the entire house off, she had no time for bitching.

 

[falconfan]

i love Janelle but she was malicious at times. Especially in her season. But it was only after she and Kaysar were profoundly screwed by the Nerd Herd. Before that she didnt say too much bad about them, she kinda just did her own thing and played chess. They, on the other hand, said awful things about her from day one.And in all stars, she was too busy trying to fight the entire house off, she had no time for bitching.

That's what I meant about her giving as good as she got. She wasn't malicious in the sense that she just was doing her thing until someone picked on her.

 

[J-23]

Flirting is harmless, Britney has never once cheated on her fiance with Lane.

Rachel is a whore because she has talked in the House about being in orgies and -- more pertinently -- she has boasted to the other houseguests (including Brendon) about having sex with multiple men for money! She also said she would want to CONTINUE fucking other men for money, even after she and Brendon are married.

I don't know what dictionary you're using but the definition of "whore" is someone who has sex for money.

How is that any different from Janelle, who explained to Will and Boogie that she has "sponsors" (wealthy men) who she "spends time with" in exchange for lavish gifts and exotic vacations? (Janelle also stated on BB6 that she'd slept with dozens and dozens of men, and that she planned to sleep with Michael on finale night.)

Sorry, but Janelle is just as deserving of that title as Rachel. The only different is that Rachel is actually a decent person.

 

[J-23]

Her undying love for other people loving her you mean? Janey will always fawn over whoever the favorite is. She loves attention and approval and I love her for it.

So in Janelle's world it's okay to abuse your children and physically assault women as long as you're on the Sov 6 bandwagon? Wow, I'm sure Ragan would refer to her as a wonderful, stand-up human being.

 

[joesman]

Flirting is harmless, Britney has never once cheated on her fiance with Lane.

Rachel is a whore because she has talked in the House about being in orgies and -- more pertinently -- she has boasted to the other houseguests (including Brendon) about having sex with multiple men for money! She also said she would want to CONTINUE fucking other men for money, even after she and Brendon are married.

I don't know what dictionary you're using but the definition of "whore" is someone who has sex for money.

I hate to call you on this but if Rachel is a whore then the majority of us are whores also, and we are posting on a gay porn website, and porn is filled with people taking money to fuck and most of us watch it. So kettle meet pot.

Weighing in on the Ragan/Rachel fight - the one thing I noticed that made me so angry was Ragin's personal attacks on her hair, her face etc. He was just deep in the gut mean, and he started it again from the minute she came in the door. Her entrance was classic Rachel and her voice combined with Rachel's sent shards of glass right through my ear drums. Ragan has an ugly and mean soul. Perhaps that is why he cries so much and the little frig cries constantly. And Ragan can read people so well, that's why he is up (or wants to be) Matt's skanky ass all the time. He embarrasesd the hell out of me for his low down cheap shots to a woman who was so good to him and told everyone how much she loved him. Her gay comment was a little fracturing but nothing compared to all the pansie, and other things that have been said.

When Ragan said he would vote for Kathy over Brendan if they were final 2 put the kabosh on him for me. He talked such high moralistic playing at the beginning "I won't vote for the most popular but for the person who has played the best game." Well, Raganweeps, your credentials are dead and buried. Your game is pathetic.

Producers knew about the pretzels because it was shown from beginning to end on the tv show. They let it stand because they wanted to stick a stick up Matt's ass and make him use the DPoV. If he doesn't put up Kathy or Enzo he is as much a douche as I believe him to be.

 

[aijalon18]

^That's usually always the case with those really catty, mean, vile gay guys. Usually they have a lot insecurity and in themselves and come from a background where people made them feel horrible for being gay. And instead of learning not to that to others since they know how it feels, they do the opposite and mistreat people just like they were mistreated. One low blow from Rachel that seemed to strike a nerve was how she mentioned his bad luck with guys.

 

[Salemite]

I hate to call you on this but if Rachel is a whore then the majority of us are whores also, and we are posting on a gay porn website, and porn is filled with people taking money to fuck and most of us watch it. So kettle meet pot.

LoL, watching other people have sex for money is not the same as participating in the act. There's a difference between prostitution and voyeurism.

For example, let's say I'm strolling through the park one day and I happen to stumble upon a man and a woman having sex in the bushes. Complete strangers. I don't know them, they don't know me, but I witness the money exchange just before they take their clothes off. Out of sheer curiosity, I stand there and watch for a minute before taking off and continuing my walk. That is the definition of voyeurism -- not prostitution/whorishness.

 

[Salemite]

I think it's funny how Brendon goes on and on about how Rachel is his one and only true love when she was actually his third choice. He first went after Britney, but that ended when she showed him her engagement ring. He went after Annie second, but when she didn't respond to his kisses and groping in bed, that ended too. Rachel was merely the consolation prize. He was bound to fall for the first girl dumb enough to say "yes."

 

[joesman]

^That's usually always the case with those really catty, mean, vile gay guys. Usually they have a lot insecurity and in themselves and come from a background where people made them feel horrible for being gay. And instead of learning not to that to others since they know how it feels, they do the opposite and mistreat people just like they were mistreated. One low blow from Rachel that seemed to strike a nerve was how she mentioned his bad luck with guys.

I forgot to mention those 2 times Julie asked him a question and he caught her off guard when he responded about his bondage habits on saturday night. He seemed intent on letting everyone know about his sexual habits.

 

[joesman]

LoL, watching other people have sex for money is not the same as participating in the act. There's a difference between prostitution and voyeurism.

For example, let's say I'm strolling through the park one day and I happen to stumble upon a man and a woman having sex in the bushes. Complete strangers. I don't know them, they don't know me, but I witness the money exchange just before they take their clothes off. Out of sheer curiosity, I stand there and watch for a minute before taking off and continuing my walk. That is the definition of voyeurism -- not prostitution/whorishness.

Actually whore means that and more:

whore




whore [ hawr ]


noun (plural whores)

Definition:

1. an offensive term for a prostitute


2. an offensive term for somebody regarded as being sexually indiscriminate


3. an offensive term for somebody who is regarded as willing to set aside principles or personal integrity in order to obtain something, usually for selfish motives


The second meaning seems to fit most of us I would think. But I understand what you are saying. and the third meaning applies to every single person who has been on BB.

 

[Salemite]

Actually whore means that and more:

whore [ hawr ]

noun (plural whores)

Definition:

1. an offensive term for a prostitute

2. an offensive term for somebody regarded as being sexually indiscriminate

3. an offensive term for somebody who is regarded as willing to set aside principles or personal integrity in order to obtain something, usually for selfish motives

The second meaning seems to fit most of us I would think. But I understand what you are saying. and the third meaning applies to every single person who has been on BB.

Does it matter which meanings apply to us? We're not discussing us -- we're discussing the show. I don't care if I had sex with five men for money last night -- I can still call Rachel a whore and feel totally comfortable doing so because she's the one who opened herself up to criticism by being on the show and behaving as such a morally corrupt skank, not me.

Meanwhile, I'm not sexually indiscriminate. Not anymore, anyway.

When I said that Brendon fell in love with the biggest whore in the house, I didn't mean that he fell for the woman who is "most willing to set aside principles or personal integrity in order to obtain something, usually for selfish motives," so meaning #3 doesn't apply (even though it's completely true). What I meant is that Brendon fell for the woman who was most willing to take off her panties for him or any other guy with cash in his wallet and parade around in the skankiest, skimpiest outfits possible, so I guess meanings #1 and #2 best apply to my use of the word when describing Rachel.

 

[Salemite]

Matt is doing a good job of acting like he thinks he's going home tonight.

He's been talking to Ragan for the last 15 minutes telling him that he thinks Enzo and the guys are voting him out because he's heard Enzo talk about how Lane needs to play hard for HOH tonight.

Right now, Matt's telling Ragan that Brendon has been quizzing Enzo/Hayden about Q&A facts that might be used in tonight's HOH competition, so if they lose, it's because they threw it. "They don't want any blood on their hands by evicting Brendon so they'll probably throw it to you or Britney."

 

[Salemite]

LoL, apparently Kathy made up a lie last night and told Hayden that Britney told her she's going to kill all the fish after she (Kathy) is evicted. WTF?

 

[altlover85]

Kathy is the evil genius.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Joesman, this isn't a semantic argument. The original poster I replied to called Britney a whore for flirting with Lane, and said Rachel was not a whore. That puts "whore" in a very specific sexual context which I addressed like so: if Britney is a whore for casually flirting, then Rachel is definitely a whore for actually being a prostitute.

 

[joesman]

Joesman, this isn't a semantic argument. The original poster I replied to called Britney a whore for flirting with Lane, and said Rachel was not a whore. That puts "whore" in a very specific sexual context which I addressed like so: if Britney is a whore for casually flirting, then Rachel is definitely a whore for actually being a prostitute.

No problem. I was basically being facetious. It just seems amusing to me how loosely whore is used. I use it for a whole series of things that don't even apply to sex.

I actually never heard Rachel say she was in orgies or took pay for sex, but if she did then the word fits. I only watch BB AD and I might have missed it if it was on AD because I find so much of it sleep inducing that I ff through a lot of it. Like the long Ragan crying binge that lasted forever it seemed.

Someone said they would love a chance to give each hg a 30 tape of what people thought of their game play, and Ragan was the person they'd like to give one to because he thinks he is so great at the game when in actuality he is blind to how bad he is. We'll see if his game play picks up from here on out. Like everyone else in the house Brendan remains the main target for Ragan .

 

[Adrock-JD]

It's almost like Ragan isn't really part of the cast. He's just there as a commentator.

He should've just taken a cookie from Rachel and shut the fuck up. He wasn't giving out any "insider" information in his rant on her. We, and they, already knew all of that.

Britney on Kathy's "I'm gonna take my time on this one." veto comp was another classic.

The robot was stupid.

If it ends up with just the brigade in the house, who's gonna win the comps?

 

[Salemite]

Big Brother Contestant Rips Housemate A New One For Homophobic Insult!



This is absolutely inspired. We cannot get over how brilliantly this man tears that stoopid slam pig to shreds!

Check out this clip from last night's Big Brother, where recently-evicted psychopath/Vegas cocktail waitress/chemist(?) Rachel rears her ugly head for one last hurrah, and makes some pretty ignorant comments about contestant Ragan's sexuality!

Well, we'll let you watch for yourself to see this work of art in all of its glory, but let's just say that he did not take too kindly to her insults!

Amazing! And perfectly executed!

Her face at the end is absolutely priceless!

Between this and Lane jerking off in the shower, we need to start watching this show!

Ha!

Kudos to you, Ragan, for telling that gutter skank what is what!

Thoughts??

Source: Perez Hilton

 

[joesman]

This from Jokers:






Joe Barber II I totally think we have Nerd Herd 2.0!! Regan... so disappointing...
about an hour ago ·

Joe Barber II I just HATE when people are so self righteous about how they think they are!! Rachel was at least herself and open and honest. We saw the good with the bad.
about an hour ago

Joe Barber II But Rachel even said that she was going to cause a little drama. She knew what she was doing. Regan says all of this stuff to Rachel thinking he's doing her a "favor" when he should have just walked away. he fell right into her trap!!
20 minutes ago

Joe Barber II Psssh She was herself and not a fake. Don't misunderstand, she annoyed me plenty times this season, but I'll take a real person with some flaws over a someone who tries so hard to control your impression of them and are fake to do so any day.
15 minutes ago

Joe Barber II Regan just fell right into her bitch trap. And it wasn't even that smart of a trap, and Regan fell into it hook, line and sinker. Just disappointing he couldn't see what she was doing, even when she straight up told him what she was doing. He attacked her personally many times, and then had the nerve to try to take to her about class. You can't scream at someone about being classless, without lacking a fair amount yourself, in that moment.
13 minutes ago

Joe Barber II Right I agree Michelle, and I just liked Rachel's game better. The only time we've seen Regan is opposite Rachel really. And these last weeks as the saboteur, which consisted of nothing more than recording a few videos... snooze!!
6 minutes ago

Joe Barber II Yes Craig, I do think Rachel saw herself a certain way too. But she also doesn't go around and try to tell other people in the house that they should be more like her.
4 minutes ago