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The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

I would appreciate it if you didnt continue to insinuate that people hating on Ragan just b/c he's feminine and we are self-loathing or hypocritical. He and Britney cant be compared equally. Much of my ire for Ragan is how awful he was to Rachel after she and Brendan comforted him through his endless meltdowns. That has nothing to do with him being feminine and gay. And plus I made it clear I dont like Britney's wonky-eyed ass either. So dont generalize.

Plus I dont like Ragan for worshipping Matt and seeming to care about Matt's safety in the game more than his own. Sorry I want to support gay people who have self-worth and self-esteem. I dont like a person just b/c they're gay. if they are a bad gay I'm not gonna support them. I would respect Ragan if he threw comps o Matt for strategy but he clearly threw them b/c he has a pathetic crush on him.

Dude I didn't say about anyone specific for a clear purpose. You can hate him for whatever reason you want. And you can all hate him individually for different non-homosexual related reasons and it can be one big coincidence. But I have never seen any gay man on this show that this forum doesn't tear to shreds. I really don't think that's a coincidence.
 
He gave up 2 HoH competitions to his man lust

He threw the competitions because

A) he didn't want to have to nominate anyone for eviction, thereby making enemies.

and

B) He knew Matt would never nominate him.
 
But I have never seen any gay man on this show that this forum doesn't tear to shreds. I really don't think that's a coincidence.

Did people really hate Kevin from last year? That's just sad then, because he was awesome and by far Big Brother's best gay guy.
 
People hold gay houseguests to a certain standard


Don't really know why. I love me some Ragen, loved me some Kevin.
 
Dude I didn't say about anyone specific for a clear purpose. You can hate him for whatever reason you want. And you can all hate him individually for different non-homosexual related reasons and it can be one big coincidence. But I have never seen any gay man on this show that this forum doesn't tear to shreds. I really don't think that's a coincidence.
Naturally gay people are gonna be extra critical of a gay person b/c he represents an entire minority group and everyone wants him to be something different. But in this case Ragan, like many gays cast by reality show is terrible. If anything it is the fault of producers for never casting a reasonable homosexual. And from what I recall, Kevin didnt get it that bad last year. He just wasnt part of the dopey Ken and Barbie alliance.
 
If Britney doesn't put up Brendan, what do you think Ragan will think of that and how will it affect their relationship? Or will it all? I thought Brendan and Regan didn't like each other?
 
altlover85, Ragan would just have to deal. No he wouldn't be happy about it, but he's not going to abandon his alliance with Britney over that. No one could blame Britney for not putting up Brendan this week when she MADE A DEAL WITH HIM for safety last week. And Brendan -- whatever else one may think of him -- kept his end of the bargain.

And just to clarify: I'm not saying that deals in BB mean anything and that Britney should keep Brendan safe this week just to honor her deal. I'm saying that she should use the deal as her excuse for not nominating him, get Enzo out instead (a MUCH easier target) thereby creating a situation next week (unbeknown to her, a double eviction) where she's likely to stick around because the Big Target (Brendan) will still be in the game...and not coming after her.
 
Ragan has won one PoV and then only because he had to win it or be toast. He gave up 2 HoH competitions to his man lust, and he could have been a lot better off if he hadn't. He would have had the DPoV if he hadn't of let Matt (the second time Ragan gave it to him) have the HoH. Both those competitions were suited to smaller people, so Matt and Ragan being the last standing was no surprise to me, just irritating.
Exactly small guys and girls always win those types of challenges. Bigger guys with muscles are always out of those comps first. Ragan is useless. But I honestly think some people here just like to disagree with certain other people.
 
I don't think Ragan could have won the HOH were Matt won the first time. Matt seemed fine, but Ragan was noticeably in pain. And I have to say, Enzo is a lot more useless than Ragan ever was or is.

Ragan should also be a target next week, I would think.
 
Exactly small guys and girls always win those types of challenges. Bigger guys with muscles are always out of those comps first. Ragan is useless. But I honestly think some people here just like to disagree with certain other people.

Hayden is a collegiate baseball player and has not thrown any competitions. Yet, he hasn't come near winning any of the challenges.

Fishy?
 
Hayden is a collegiate baseball player and has not thrown any competitions. Yet, he hasn't come near winning any of the challenges.

Fishy?
I dont think so. They have had almost no comps that are geared towards a real athlete. The most physical thing they had was the one that Brendan recently won to become HOH. If you notice the people doing the best were Brendan, Lane and Hayden. The four horsemen season had more challenges that gave strong athletic guys the advantage. I think there should be more of a balance. They have mostly been puzzles, endurance, crap shoot games, and questions. That's why someone like Britney keeps winning vetos. The comps have been primarily geared towards weaker people.
 
BB AD - Matt complaining that for his birthday they only gave him 1 beer. Dude, it was not your birthday. You lied about that.
 
BB AD - Matt complaining that for his birthday they only gave him 1 beer. Dude, it was not your birthday. You lied about that.

:lol:

That is really funny! Matt has a great sarcastic sense of humor... complaining on the outside and laughing to himself about it on the inside. He's a bit twisted and it cracks me up...
 
Wow. Ragan has a Wikipedia page.

Please Big Brother, in addition to selecting an interesting cast next season, please don't select players that have Wikipedia pages (before the show this page existed) and who revel in debating Big Brother history minutia.
 
Enzo finally on the block :rotflmao: meow meow, it is what it is

He'll be playin ha-ud for the Jersey powuh of Vito
 
I haven't watched the feeds all day, but from the updates I'm reading, it sounds like the guys (Lane/Hayden/Enzo) have been trying to convince Britney to backdoor Matt. Strange thing is... it sounds like Britney's actually onboard with the plan (WHY?!). Either she's completely lost her brain or she's playing the guys like fiddles.

Anyway...

*****BRENDON AND ENZO ARE NOMINATED*****
 
Britney is truly an idiot. No one can confuse her as a smart player ever again. She's terrible. If she put half as much energy into conjuring up insults into her game play she could go somewhere in this game.

How does nominating Brendon benefit her in any way? All the brigade guys save lane are after her either way. Keeping him would piss some people off but Brendon would still be half the house's number 1 target. By betraying Brendon she's pretty much lost his jury vote and Rachel's unless she makes it to the end with Matt or Ragan.
 
Maybe she's thinking of backdooring Hayden? I know it sound stupid, but I'm trying.

When do they play veto?
 
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