The Official "Big Brother 12" Discussion Thread!

[altlover85]

When they say would you have done anything differently for some reason I think of winning comps as obvious. I always think of that question in terms of what moves would you make differently. Winning a comp (assuming that you are trying your hardest) is sort of a fait accompli type issue in my mind. You can't really change losing a comp is what I mean.

 

[Salemite]

Matt is being interviewed now.

He made up the lie about his wife on a whim when he was in the house having a conversation with Britney. He had previously joked with his wife about it but he didn't know if he would actually implement it.

He doesn't regret making up the lie because it was effective and it would've helped him if he made it to the Final 2. "I had Kathy, Rachel and Brendon up my sleeve as jury votes all because of the lie. I feel bad that I hurt them, but I don't feel bad about the lie."

He says Big Brother is a game and people lie to win. "I wasn't injecting people with viruses and I'm not a voodoo witch doctor and I can't make people sick with my words. It was a game move. To the people who loved it, you guys are great game-players and you should apply to be on the show next season."

He says Ragan is a friend he'll have for life, which surprises him because he didn't expect to develop (friendly) feelings for anyone in the house.

He says he knew very early on that he was the low man on the totem pole in the brigade alliance, but he didn't realize was how assertive they were in trying to get him out. "I thought they were voting me out because they had to choose between me or Lane. I didn't realize they were actually petitioning to get me on the block in the first place. I got played."

He regrets throwing Ragan under the bus.

He constantly puts his hands in his pants because "it feels comfortable." He does it in bars and in other public places (restaurants, etc.) but it's not something he does consciously. "It just feels good."

He claims that he created the brigade -- not Enzo. "Why would they call me the brains if Enzo was the one who masterminded it?"

That's it for him.

 

[aijalon18]

He constantly puts his hands in his pants because "it feels comfortable." He does it in bars and in other public places (restaurants, etc.) but it's not something he does consciously. "It just feels good."

Gag me with a spoon.

 

[Salemite]

Now Ragan's being interviewed.

He says it was difficult to play the game because he was hungry and miserable all the time. He was a Have Not for longer than any other houseguest this season.

He says he bashed Rachel all the time because he had no distractions in the house and he needed to blow off steam. "Keep in mind, we don't have a TV in here or anything else, so I don't regret venting the way I did. I don't regret talking about Rachel's vagina hanging out of her dress. When somebody is constantly badgering you... I mean, you have to do something to get them off your case, so that's what I did."

In the middle of the interview, Matt comes over and jokingly offers to give Ragan a blowjob.

He's excited to go back to work again on Monday. He plans to "address the elephant in the room" as soon as the class comes in, then he'll spend 15 minutes taking questions before "getting down to business."

He scoffs at the idea of Brendon saying he's the most emotional player in the game, considering that Brendon got into a showmance the first week and was willing to give up $500,000 for a girl he just met. "That's a big tip for a waitress."

That's it for him.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Oh never mind. I just rewatched the ending and I see the Rachel-face Adrock was talking about. We've seen that dejected miseryguts face before though, it's the one Rachel always makes when things don't go her way (Ragan has a similar face). I think it's just dawning on Rachel that America didn't love her the way she thought they did. She clearly thought she was the new Janelle but she's not even America's Choice on this crappy season (and from all accounts, she wasn't even in the running).

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Allison Grodner is on her way.

I know it's mean to call a woman a hag, but...yeah.

 

[Salemite]

Now Rachel's being interviewed.

She says she didn't choose to have a showmance -- she fell in love. "When I met Brendon, he was so perfect for me. It was hard not to fall in love with him. Plus, he's hot. Let's be real here! Don't mess with me and my man!"

She says their relationship has gotten so much stronger since being in the jury house. "Brendon is definitely the guy that I want to be with."

She and Ragan haven't kissed and made up yet. "He's a petty little baby. I've tried apologizing to him, but Ragan won't accept anything."

Missy asks if Rachel knew they were making fun of her when she walked into the HOH room and saw them playing with her hair extensions. Rachel gets somber and says, "Um... I knew they were laughing AT me and not WITH me. It's alright. Let them drink their haterade."

Rachel says the brigade made it so far in the game because everyone was so preoccupied with getting rid of her and Brendon that they failed to see what was right in front of their faces the whole time.

That's it for her.

 

[Salemite]

Hayden, Lane and Enzo just showed up.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Now Ragan's being interviewed.

He says he bashed Rachel all the time because he had no distractions in the house and he needed to blow off steam. "Keep in mind, we don't have a TV in here or anything else, so I don't regret venting the way I did. I don't regret talking about Rachel's vagina hanging out of her dress. When somebody is constantly badgering you... I mean, you have to do something to get them off your case, so that's what I did."

I don't like Rachel very much -- and I certainly wouldn't drink from any cup she just used -- but Ragan's not much better. Actually Ragan's even worse. Rachel is psychotic, annoying, dumb and trashy, but she never uncorked a malicious, racist line about African babies and HIV needles.

I think Ragan and Matt will be surprised when they're not asked back for All Stars 2 and Rachel, Britney and Enzo are.

 

[Salemite]

I think Allison Grodner shunned Missy/Superpass. She's already disappeared from the backyard. We might not get to hear from her tonight.

 

[aijalon18]

Actually to be fair Rachel wasn't that hated according to Jokers. Lots of people hated her but lots of people liked her as well or at least like watching her. Lots of people liked Brendon as well. I think they were hated on here more than in the general public.

And also I know everyone is trying to make a huge deal out of this smirk after Britney won. But to me and lots of people Ragan and Brit just look so childish by how they are still acting. Rachel and Brendon were surprisingly mature and were no longer trying to say nasty things to people. But Ragan and Britney still tried to spread their misery to the very end.

 

[Salemite]

According to the tweets I'm reading, Britney knows about the house fire.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Rachel and Brendan were so not mature. They weren't even able to give the Brigade credit for outplaying them. Ragan and Britney were at least able to do that. Rachel's line was the epitome of bitterness: "If they played so well, how did I win 2 HOHs?" What a moron.

And no it's not just here. On lots of other Reality Show boards Rachel certainly has fans, but there are also a lot of people who hate her. She's very polarizing. And apparently the people who voted for the 25 K didn't care for her either.

 

[Lostlover]

Glad this season is over, hopefully this show can redeem itself next year, this finale was just a sappy lovefest. LOL at Rachel's face when Britney won America's Choice.

Goodbye to this lame ass season with two smug finalists. I held off on calling Lane a redneck with no personality. But he can take his spitting in the shower ass back to Texas.

And midget Matt? Clearly offended the whole cast and his ass has no regrets except that it didn't work. He needs to put his ass back in a Lucky Charms box.

Big Brother, please never bring ANY of these houseguests back in subsequent seasons. They deserved to be forgotten just like the players(who didn't really play) the season Dan's snotty ass won.

And this thread deserves to be deleted. I want 75 days back and about $35 I paid Comcast for Shotime's BBAD.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

According to the tweets I'm reading, Britney knows about the house fire.

Ooh, any reaction from her?

 

[Salemite]

Now Enzo's being interviewed.

Enzo says Matt is lying about creating the brigade. "He lied about his wife and now he's trying to take my thunder. The guy's a liar."

His strategy going into the house was to create the "Meow Meow Mafia," which became the brigade. He talked about wanting to create the Meow Meow Mafia in his pre-show interviews.

Enzo says he ate while he was a Have Not because "I'm the Meow Meow and the Meow Meow can get away with stuff like that. I would stick my face into the fridge and stuff my mouth all the time. Don't be salty about it -- just be happy I got away with it. I did get warnings though."

Enzo says he wants to play a gangster in a movie because "that's what I was put on this earth to do."

He says he and his wife are going to "have fun" tonight -- even if his mom is in the room. He's going to let Hayden fuck his groupies since he's married and can't fuck them himself. (Delusions of grandeur...)

I just read a tweet saying that Allison Grodner said her favorite moments this season were Kathy in the honey and the Ragan/Rachel fight.

Anyway, that's it for Enzo.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Enzo is right. Matt didn't create anything. The Brigade was all Enzo's doing and we have the live feeds and episodes to prove it. Matt needs to just go away.

Also, this Missy woman interviewing them is terrible.

 

[altlover85]

I think Rachel and Brendon took people's minds off the Brigade, but I also think if Rachel had played smartly, instead of personally there would have been a different outcome in the game.

 

[Salemite]

Now Lane's being interviewed.

He says he and Britney have a "healthy" relationship even though they bicker, wrestle and make each other cry.

He thinks Hayden, Matt and Enzo will give him a hard time for planning to take Britney with him to the Final 2.

He thinks Nick (Britney's fiancee) will take a 9 iron to his face if/when they meet.

Lane says he'll probably create a Facebook fan page for all his fans even though he only uses the internet when he's bored. (That's code for "I use the internet when I want to watch porn.")

That's it for him.

 

[Salemite]

Hayden's being interviewed now.

He's grinning from ear to ear. "I'm so pumped! How could I not be pumped? Are you kidding me? Everybody gets hugs!"

Hayden says he didn't take Enzo with him to the Final 2 because Enzo would've beat him. "I might be wrong, but I'm glad I took Lane because I won."

Hayden scoffs at the idea of becoming an A-list celebrity now that Big Brother is over. "I'll be lucky to be a D-list celebrity. Are you kidding me? Nobody planted that seed in my head."

He says he's now a super-fan of Big Brother and he'll be watching all future seasons.

Hayden says his plan was always to take Lane to the end of the game with him. He says he lied in his goodbye message to Kristen when he told her he would've taken her to the Final 2 rather than staying loyal to the brigade. "I lied to her."

He says he doesn't know yet what he's going to do with his winnings.

That's it for him and that's the final interview.

Farewell BB12. You sucked from start to finish. On to BB13...

Goodnight!