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Re: Madonna Adopts African Baby-baby To Write Sequel To Mommie Dearest In Twenty Year

Let's hope he will become a good-looking guy with good genetics and will be able to stand above the racism in the white world. It would be a shame if her offspring couldn't keep up with her looks and be famous, wouldn't it?

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Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

Me Madonna, you baby
The pop star's adoption is a fairytale come true . . . at least for someone

MARGARET WENTE

Who among us does not feel pity for the plight of Africa? Its problems seem overwhelming and intractable. Its people endure wars, disease, and famine. And now, just when it seems the situation could scarcely get worse, Africa has suffered another blow.

Madonna came to town.

Last seen hanging from a crucifix, the world's most overrated pop star is the latest in a long line of celebrities who have discovered the Dark Continent, and, like Livingstone before them, are determined to save it. Madonna is also taking home a souvenir -- a cute dark-skinned adopted baby. Dark-skinned babies (along with Birkin bags) are the latest must-have celebrity accessory. Too bad Angelina Jolie can't sue for storyline appropriation.

"For the last few years -- now that I have children and now that I have what I consider to be a better perspective on life -- I have felt responsible for the children of the world," Madonna modestly revealed. And so she has decided to devote a few million dollars of her sizable fortune to building orphanages in Malawi. Why Malawi? Why not? Namibia was taken. And George Clooney has the franchise on Darfur.
To be sure, it's hard to find a country that's worse off than AIDS-ravaged Malawi, where the annual per-capita income hovers around $200 a year. Few people there had heard of Madonna before she descended from the skies in her private jet, like a toned and buff dea ex machina. But even before she landed, rumours had begun to sweep the country about a famous white lady who was coming to pick out a sibling for Lourdes and Rocco. Madonna's people denied an adoption was in the works. Meanwhile, her advance team was fanning out in their SUVs (imported for the occasion) to audition suitable orphans. A local newspaper interviewed an 11-year-old girl named Mpheso, who said, "They told me I will be a friend to a white girl called 'Lodess.' "

Why is Africa the celebrity cause du jour? It can't simply be the photo ops. Maybe it's because the sufferings of Africa offer a cheap and easy way to reproach the West for its neglect and callousness (see Sir Bob Geldof, Bono, et al.) The awkward fact that Africa has gotten poorer, in spite of half-a-trillion dollars' worth of Western aid, is not allowed to spoil this narrative. Celebrity outrage would be better aimed at the kleptocrats and murderers who run Africa's thugo-cracies. But nobody would buy a concert ticket for that.

"I am African," declares Gwyneth Paltrow in a recent ad for a children's charity, in which she (and not the children) stars. In spite of the blue paint slashed across her cheek and the ethnic beads wrapped around her neck, you could have fooled me. "We are on the verge of farcical at this point," said Vanity Fair columnist Michael Wolff. "This has become just a part of the public relations play book. Everybody has a PR person and every PR person says 'which country do you want to adopt?' " And if you can't decide, you can adopt the whole darn continent.

It worked for Angelina Jolie. First she adopted a child from Ethiopa, to add to the child she'd already adopted from Cambodia. Then she decided to add her own child to her collection, and to give birth in Namibia, a scenic country previously known for its game parks. Wild lions were employed to fend off the invading paparazzi. The birth (attended by a leading Los Angeles obstetrician flown in for the occasion) was headline news around the world, and the holy trinity of Angelina, Brad and their surprisingly homely infant, Shiloh Nouvel, snagged the cover of Vanity Fair. No longer is Angelina a scheming home-wrecker. Now she is a loving mother who adopts dark-skinned orphans and gives away her money. "She is a genius at changing the narrative," said one tabloid editor. "How do you hate someone who spent Thanksgiving helping Pakistani earthquake victims?"

But let's not be cynical. The Namibians got something too -- a major tourism boost. A majority of the voters in a local radio poll said Ms. Jolie's birthday should be declared a national holiday. Only 16 per cent thought the visit was "a chance for sycophantic losers to seek fulfilment."

The visit of Madonna and her retinue has already goosed Malawi's GDP. The local people are grateful for the new orphanages, which, thanks to her spiritual interests, will have projects based on the Kabbalah. Let's also not forget the lucky little kid who won the jackpot, a one-year-old boy she has (mercifully) named David. International adoptions are against the law in Malawi, but exceptions can occasionally be made. David's birth father, a farmer whose wife died of AIDS, is very happy for his son. "Madonna promised me that as the child grows she will bring him back to visit."

Nobody but the hardest-hearted cynic could see a dark side to this fairytale come true. So what if building orphanages also happens to be good for image-polishing? Everybody wins, and the fact that Madonna is able to keep her name in the news in the lead-up to next month's TV concert special is just a happy accident. Everybody gets a happy ending, except maybe for the kids who didn't make the cut. As the bewildered girl Mpheso recalls, "They said someone would arrive soon to prepare me for the trip, but no one has come."
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

That woman irks me for some reason. "Auditions?" WTF is this? Poor Starving African Idol?
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

She fell in love? THEY HAD AUDITIONS. It wasnt about her falling in love. It was picked for her in African Child Idol. Not to mention I wouldn't exactly want her as MY mother with her reputation AND the same shit she pulls still to this day..
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

why doesn't she try to poop out another one herself. i am sure she could make magic work with her money and all. or maybe she's gone barren already. who knows... and who cares really?

i've just read that they have left malawi... without the baby, because they couldn't get the papers together in time or something.
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

Hmmmm, I don't think Madonna holds a British passport.

Where did you get that information?

I can be wrong of course, but I don't think she has ever become a naturalised UK citizen.
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

why doesn't she try to poop out another one herself. i am sure she could make magic work with her money and all. or maybe she's gone barren already. who knows... and who cares really?

i've just read that they have left malawi... without the baby, because they couldn't get the papers together in time or something.

The kid, David, has no passport.

You know, after all these, and if the thing fails, the kid is gonna be traumatised as the unwanted child. This is so sad.

I think these celebrities should do their homework before going to a country for adoption.. there are several countries - why choose one that causes so much hooha's?
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

I think its good because the only thing that should be thinking about is the kid! and i think hes going to be alot happier with madonna than in africa!
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

Gee, how predictable. Yet another bitter, unhappy person trashing Madonna for trying to do some good in the world. How sad and pathetic that some people can only elevate themselves in the eyes of others by bringing other people down.
 
Re: NBC to air Madonna Crucifixion Scene

It says a lot about the intellectual limitations of the American populace that no one seems to recognize the irony in all this.

Madonna has been relentlessly "crucified" by the media for one thing or another since the day she first stepped into the limelight more than 20 years ago. And here she is being criticized and condemned yet again for "crucifying" herself in a stage performance, predictably leading to more vilification by her detractors.

Interesting that the ultra-conservatives who have a problem with the crucifixation scene in her show totally overlook the fact that the entire point of the performance is to draw attention to the widespread impact of the AIDS pandemic in Africa.

At the dawn of the AIDS epidemic in the early 80's, the kooky Christian right were quick to label it a gay disease and, under the leadership of President Ronald Reagan (or, more appropriately, the lack thereof), not one goddamn thing was done to prevent what could have been a containable and eradicable disease from growing into the worst global pandemic in human history.

How very, VERY ironic that the conservative movement continues to vilify a female pop singer for using her performance art to draw attention to an epic human tragedy that never would have existed if not for the indifference and bigotry of those criticizing her. I find that far more offensive than anything Madonna, or any celebrity, could ever do in a stage act.
 
Re: NBC to air Madonna Crucifixion Scene

Whatever, if people would quit talkin about it, she wouldnt get all this attention that she certainly DOES NOT deserve. She does this shit on purpose, so people giving her what she wants just makes her do more pointless stupid shit to "shock" us. It got old years ago.
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

Gee, how predictable. Yet another bitter, unhappy person trashing Madonna for trying to do some good in the world. How sad and pathetic that some people can only elevate themselves in the eyes of others by bringing other people down.

So because people have suspicions on things makes them bitter and unhappy just because we don't lick the damn dirt she walks on? Thats bullshit. I think after all the bullshuit she stirred up with the crucifixion shit, shes doing YET ANOTHER publicity stunt to make her look like a decent person. Not working, in my opinion. And I'm not a bitter or unhappy person. I just think she's full of it.
 
Re: NBC to air Madonna Crucifixion Scene

Well, it's good to hear they're keeping it in. People will finally get to see the whole thing, and the message behind it.

Great news! Thanks for posting! ^_^
 
Re: NBC to air Madonna Crucifixion Scene

I just can't stand people who have to stir up controversy and stuff JUST to get their name out there. I never claimed to like Paris Hilton. I like some of her songs, she's alright - I don't hate her or anything either. I don't technically hate Madonna either...I like her older stuff...I just don't get people who have the talent to succeed without drama, but either don't or actually have NO talent and do it to sell themselves. Regardless of what she donates, its not really honorable to me because it wasn't technically earned, in my opinion. I mean what's she gonna do next? Masturbate at the Vatican in front of everyone?

*I know people will disagree, and thats fine. But no need for fucking hate comments, people. Grow up. You know who you are.
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

I don't 'get' Madonna's reasoning for doing this, but hoping it'll turn out well for the kid. I'm assuming none of Madonna's kids will ever have part-time jobs or want for anything material. And, being in Great Britain, the kid will be safe from becoming a Congressional page.:)
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

Makes me laugh people are saying shes doing this for publicity, shes Madonna lol... you don't get much more publicity than that - goodluck to her and the child, she must have her reasons. ..|
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

The only reason I scream PUBLICITY STUNT is because people are starting to question her as a person ever since the ruffled feathers over her crucifixion thing - REGARDLESS of what she SAYS the meaning is. Cricifying yourself on a cross is NOT an appropriate way to deliver a message. It's just a bad decision.
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

Well this is what she's said regarding David:

Madonna.com said:
"My husband and I began the adoption process many months prior to our trip to Malawi. I did not wish to disclose my intentions to the world prior to the adoption happening as this is a private family matter.

After learning that there were over one million orphans in Malawi, it was my wish to open up our home and help one child escape an extreme life of hardship, poverty and in many cases death, as well as expand our family.

Nevertheless, we have gone about the adoption procedure according to the law like anyone else who adopts a child. Reports to the contrary are totally inaccurate. The procedure includes an 18-month evaluation period after which time we hope to make this adoption permanent.

This was not a decision or commitment that my family or I take lightly.

I am overwhelmed and inspired by my trip to Malawi and hope that it helps bring attention to how much more the world needs to do to help the children of Africa.

My heartfelt thanks for all the good wishes I have received and I hope the press will allow my family some room for us to experience the joy we feel to have David home.

Madonna Ritchie
October 17, 2006
London, England"

^_^
 
Re: Another Plague Grips Africa: Madonna

"starting to question her as a person ever since the ruffled feathers over her crucifixion thing"

Starting? Madonna has always ruffled feathers. Her use of religion in her videos and concerts is not new. Some gossip people say she held "auditions" and you and many others are right there repeating it as fact. How do you know she just didn't feel a connection with David? How do you know she wasn't moved by the story of his parents? Instead of just giving someoen the benefit of the doubt, you are eager to believe the worst.

I don't know the facts of the situation but based on what I do know I think this is a good thing. She's drawn attention to the area, she's donated to developing the area, she's taken a child out of poverty, and she's drawing attention to the low wages people earn in that area of the world.

Attention? Madonna doesn't have to draw in a motherless child to get attention.

What I should have said was "recent idiotic events on her behalf made people question her again..."

And maybe not overseas, but nobody in the U.S. really pays attention to her until she does something moronic. Just like Britney. In fact, I'm almost certain that's the only way anyone KNOWS who Britney is, but thats another story. Its just...wtf happened to the Madonna I used to like? I can't remember her doing anything for attention until her sales began to slump...sure, shes always been controversial, but at least it was groundbreaking. This recent crap is OBVIOUS attention ploys and is nothing new.
 
Re: NBC to air Madonna Crucifixion Scene

madonna is the BEST and you are so ugly! :(
Sad.

Anyway, good for Madonna. Make your statement, girl. I say that as a Baptist, too! I'm an artist who believes in artistic expression. It might be uncomfortable, but if it's a reflection of where you feel you are in life, then go ahead.

Last time I checked, Madonna wasn't about hatred.
 
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