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the playing field isn't level yet- white households headed by a high school drop out 3x wealthier than black households headed by a college grad

I don't care what facts you point out. I ignore it just like you ignore the 55 kazillion facts that prove beyond any reasonable doubt that there is still residual racism woven all throughout this country that manifests itself in infinite ways. This is how you are trained. Deny it. Deflect the blame. It's black people's fault we aren't as wealthy because we're choosing the wrong majors. I wish you could see how hard I'm laughing that you actually think that shit's gonna fly.

Ok folks, we can all go home, the US is running just as it should, back people are disproportionately poor because they don't study lucrative fields. Thank God you came along to figure it out for us. DM me your first and last name so I can submit your nomination to the Nobel committee. :rotflmao:

Wow, how dishonest can you be only quoting a part of my post and go on a tangent rant.

Let me ask again. How the hell do we expect equality of income between several groups if one group consistently choose low paying fields?
 
Wow, how dishonest can you be only quoting a part of my post and go on a tangent rant.

Let me ask again. How the hell do we expect equality of income between several groups if one group consistently choose low paying fields?

How many ways can I say that this wealth gap is NOT explained away by "they're choosing the wrong majors." That is completely inadequate in addressing why a house headed by a dropout has more wealth than a house headed by a college grad. Answer your own question, quietly, to yourself, because I'm not playing your game. I get it. You don't want to admit racial inequality. I just wish you wouldn't insult my intelligence with such a lazy explanation.
 
I reject the very notion that elevating an oppressed group is some sort of affront to the other. We don't want YOUR slice of the pie, we want our own. And don't waste your time trying to convince me there's only one slice left. This is diversion tactic number 57B-- pretend that giving blacks equality inherently makes whites unequal. The breeders tried that with gay marriage. It didn't stick then and it ain't stickin now boo.

I believe in a dynamic economy through capitalism as opposed to a static economy through communism, the pie grows. It is not served to you, if you don't answer the dinner bell you don't get your slice. You have to come to the table. Now, explain how I as a high school drop out make 3x more than a black college grad.
 
Semantics. And thank you...

We have the worst geopolitical situation and the worst prospects of equality since the end of the Second World War or the bay of pigs or so...because some white lady said “basket of deplorables” and everybody lost their fucking minds and now tell me again how semantics don’t matter. It’s awesome that you finally admit I know racism when I see it though. I’ll probably need to quote that one again.
 
How many ways can I say that this wealth gap is NOT explained away by "they're choosing the wrong majors." That is completely inadequate in addressing why a house headed by a dropout has more wealth than a house headed by a college grad. Answer your own question, quietly, to yourself, because I'm not playing your game. I get it. You don't want to admit racial inequality. I just wish you wouldn't insult my intelligence with such a lazy explanation.

I have also answered this question already. My laborers, foremen, operators, technicians, etc. Do not have college degrees for those jobs. And yet they are filled by mostly whites and Hispanics. Very rarely do I run into blacks in construction.

So, even in noncollege degree required fields, blacks still choose the lower paid fields like retail and fastfood.

Let me repeat yet again. You are demanding equality of outcome when we ought to aim for equality of opportunity.
 
I have also answered this question already. My laborers, foremen, operators, technicians, etc. Do not have college degrees for those jobs. And yet they are filled by mostly whites and Hispanics. Very rarely do I run into blacks in construction.

So, even in noncollege degree required fields, blacks still choose the lower paid fields like retail and fastfood.

Let me repeat yet again. You are demanding equality of outcome when we ought to aim for equality of opportunity.

The opportunity seems to be there...
 
The opportunity seems to be there...

With white people admitting they don't want to hire people with ethnic names? Fat chance. And what hope do black youth have to aspire to be succeed in fields that have historically shut them out? This is simply a matter of you either not being aware of the scope of racism or else being unwilling to admit to it. either way it's stale.
 
I have also answered this question already. My laborers, foremen, operators, technicians, etc. Do not have college degrees for those jobs. And yet they are filled by mostly whites and Hispanics. Very rarely do I run into blacks in construction.

So, even in noncollege degree required fields, blacks still choose the lower paid fields like retail and fastfood.

Let me repeat yet again. You are demanding equality of outcome when we ought to aim for equality of opportunity.

Oh, well if YOU don't see many blacks in construction then.... :rolleyes:

For over two hundred years people have tried to justify and explain away these gaping inequalities, and sometimes even blame them on black people themselves as you're doing now. Find a new song.
 

Results of the study confirm that white college-educated households amass wealth whereas black college-educated households lose wealth. The disparity between black and white accumulated wealth has tripled in the last several decades.

The most profound finding of the study was that parental support of their children by white parents increases white wealth, while black support of parents by their children decreases black wealth.

It illustrates that wealth is a means – not a goal.


The overarching goal of this paper is to better understand why the wealth of Black college graduates is not on the same trajectory as that of White college graduates. Specifically, we focus on family financial transfers to help better understand these divergent wealth trajectories.
 
I am one of the most progressive people you can meet, but I have always been against AA. It is stuff like this though that shows that it is needed some of the time.

Affirmative Action is a valid discussion topic, but deviates from the elements presented in the research study linked in the opening post. Interestingly, your alternative topic (arriving as post #2) became the springboard for discussion and the opening post has been largely ignored. If I split the Affirmative Action discussion to a separate thread, there would only be about 10 posts left here with the original opening post.


… this wealth gap is NOT explained away by "they're choosing the wrong majors."

You are correct.
 
bankside said:
We need something a lot stronger than this “privilege” nonsense to protect our rights and ensure they are finally expanded to include everyone.

I invite you to support something as smart and principled as Obama supported. Or get out of the way.

Today’s Democratic Party can be found wandering around somewhere between identity politics and Progressive class-based redistributionism. If it wants to win votes, it will need to connect with the people who are gathering in those places.


During her 2016 campaign, Mrs. Clinton invoked concepts like intersectionality, white privilege, implicit bias and systemic racism. She warned of “deplorables,” while Mr. Obama once gave a speech arguing that “to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns” was something that “widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.”

The Rising Racial Liberalism of Democratic Voters (The New York Times; Opinion – Sean McElwee; May 2018)
 
Results of the study confirm that white college-educated households amass wealth whereas black college-educated households lose wealth. The disparity between black and white accumulated wealth has tripled in the last several decades.

The most profound finding of the study was that parental support of their children by white parents increases white wealth, while black support of parents by their children decreases black wealth.

It illustrates that wealth is a means – not a goal.

white households headed by a high school drop out 3x wealthier than black households headed by a college grad

The title of this thread says white high school drop out makes 3x more. That is not what the article says. Furthermore, I am what some refer t as a drop out, I am white and I supported my mother and paid the bills at age 16. If a person of any gender or ethnic group can't make at least as much as I did with their college degree then they have a problem. Life was not 'handed' to me, I worked for what I have.
We can analyze and crunch numbers until the cows come home, at the end a person of color might be able to prove that life is unfair. Big surprise.
Play the hand that you are dealt, if that means you have to work twice as hard to be an achiever in life then do it.
 
Today’s Democratic Party can be found wandering around somewhere between identity politics and Progressive class-based redistributionism. If it wants to win votes, it will need to connect with the people who are gathering in those places.

There aren’t enough of them.

There is no value in wandering around in that particular desert for 40 years when there aren’t enough voters there to carry an election. The message of the last US election from the electorate was “we aren’t going there.”

If it wants to win enough votes to win an election, it will need to connect with the people who will never go there.
 
The title of this thread says white high school drop out makes 3x more. That is not what the article says.

The thread title is taken from page 125 of the research report.

Hamilton et al. (2015) point out that Black households with college-educated heads have 33 percent less wealth than White households headed by high school dropouts. And while Black families with college degrees have significantly more wealth than those without degrees (approximately $23,400 with a B.A. vs. only $3,200 with a high school diploma), there is a nearly $160,000 difference between the wealth of college-educated Black and White households (Hamilton et al., 2015).
 
The thread title is taken from page 125 of the research report.

I went to the link posted and didn't see those numbers.
Can you as a Jub Adm. explain this:
Thread: the playing field isn't level yet- white households headed by a high school drop out 3x wealthier than black households headed by a college grad

I don't want to report you but next time you lie in one of my threads I will have no choice.
This was sent to me by Fab.
 
Life was not 'handed' to me, I worked for what I have.

… a person of color might be able to prove that life is unfair. Big surprise.

The research somewhat assumes that success does not require the accumulation of wealth. Level of income is not the primary factor of consideration in the analysis. Success, as such, allows the individuals to build their own bundle of wealth – or in other cases allows the individuals to provide financial assistance to their parents. Read the report.
 
I went to the link posted and didn't see those numbers.
Can you as a Jub Adm. explain this:
Thread: the playing field isn't level yet- white households headed by a high school drop out 3x wealthier than black households headed by a college grad
The link in the opening post is incorrect. It leads to a synopsis of the report. I posted the correct link in the following quote:
 
(From linked article)

Mr. Obama once gave a speech arguing that “to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns” was something that “widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.”

That would be Obama’s so-called “Race Speech.” It came about after the press circulated the Reverend Wright tapes in March of 2008.

Question: Can the “legitimate concerns” of white Americans include a commitment to white racial dominance? As an illustration, is it reasonable to empathize with the millions of whites who sacrificed their energy and resources to flee inner cities in the 1960s rather than accept integration?


The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning. That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.

In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience - as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.

Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren't always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.

Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze - a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns - this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

This is where we are right now. It's a racial stalemate we've been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy - particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.

But I have asserted a firm conviction - a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people - that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice if we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.
 
Play the hand that you are dealt, if that means you have to work twice as hard to be an achiever in life then do it.

We don't need you to parent us with cutesy quasi-inspirational quotes from memes about hard work and I'm going to ignore the continual insinuation that we don't work hard. What we [STRIKE]need[/STRIKE] demand is equity. Nothing less is sufficient and the notion that we should just lie down and accept mistreatment is as silly as it is offensive. My ancestors did not face attack dogs, terroristic acts, torture and lynching so I could work twice as hard to be half as wealthy. Frankly that would be stupid of me. I needs ALL my coins. :gogirl:
 
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