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The problem with the Gay 'Community'

I think you really should specify how and why you think this way, TheBled. Especially since it's clear that you're stating a fact, and not posing a question.

And as for the whole young vs. old thing, that has less to do with the "gay community" and more to do with society in a whole. It is funny when I do read a posts from younger guys bashing older guys and vice versa. Both parties fail to see that they're all not getting any younger, and that karma is a bitch. :D
 
When they used to say the gay community on television, I used to picture some town in the middle of nowhere with millions of gay people shut away from the world. That's kind of what the term meant for me for a while because instead of gay community sounding inclusive for everyone, it only really specifies that gay people are welcome. That's what I have a problem with, the segregation of the term gay community.
 
playboy2001 said:
I think you really should specify how and why you think this way, TheBled. Especially since it's clear that you're stating a fact, and not posing a question.
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I agree. It might help if you expand your ideas on this topic.
 
Tongue_Me said:
When they used to say the gay community on television, I used to picture some town in the middle of nowhere with millions of gay people shut away from the world. That's kind of what the term meant for me for a while because instead of gay community sounding inclusive for everyone, it only really specifies that gay people are welcome. That's what I have a problem with, the segregation of the term gay community.
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I think the term "gay community" can be a more LOCAL thing as well. There are a couple of areas of my city (and I think most larger cities) where the population in that area is mostly gay and is referred to as "the gay community". In fairness, I think we sometimes isolate ourselves unknowingly and cloister ourselves in gay neighborhoods.
 
Gays are also human, and look at the way other human beings live their life.

What's new, in the life of a human being?

Being human, is also being who we are as gay men and women.

Imperfection is the result of being less perfect than those who presume to be more perfect, than us. Who fits the bill?
 
I don't believe that there is a problem with the "gay community"; I think, rather that, like society in general, there are "many" gay communities.

A community can be a neighborhood, a cultural group or organization, a church, an athletic team, a musical group or society, or a professional organization; the lists can go on and on.

When we consider ourselves part of a community, we must be willing to interact with everyone in that particular group.

Community means "as one"; how many times have you spoken to someone, and found that you share nothing in common, or that the other person is really contentious, or aggressive in their opinions, and you find yourself moving away from them?

In a community there will be lots of different people with lots of differing opinions. It is important to respect each other, and to know that each member of a community has value; I think that is the key to a successful community.

There are lots of wonderful people here at JUB. I can not say that I always agree with everything that is written here, but I find that, for the most part, the posts are intelligent and thought-provoking. ..|
 
Originally posted by TheBled

But, I am not going to make a list of 'problems' that I think there are. It seems that people tend to see problems amongst each other and blame other gay/people that 'so and so group' is why gay people get bad wraps. Which is not true, and it doesn't help that others see it this way, when it was none of our 'fault' that any of us are gay. It seems like blame is an issue with people and instead of focusing on the real problem of the acceptance of the general public, most of us tend to blame so and so for why we're not accepted. In turn, we're making more of a problem amongst ourselves.
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There ya go ..| And it only took three posts in your own thread to specify your point in starting it.

I agree with what you're saying, however, we live in a society where, for the most part, we're conditioned to deem what is normal, what is stereotypical and what learned behaviors are accepted as early as our childhood. Anyone who is capable of making sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people clearly don't see the whole picture, and are less likely to have any idea of what kind of person they are. Prejudice does not come out of infinite knowledge and intellect, it comes from fear and stupidity, plain and simple. So if any gay person, man or woman, has a problem with other gay, lesbian, bi, transgender, etc., not fitting the type of gay they think is acceptable really should just stay the fuck in the closet and keep their half-baked, illiterate opinions to themselves.

It's really not about being accepted for who we are, but for who we need to be in order to be accepted universally...and that's just unrealistic...and rather boring, now that I'm thinking about it.

And in a rather odd post script, the other day a chick asked me about fisting, which I'm not into, yet she thought most gay men are. Didn't piss me off, and I didn't think those who are into fisting are tarnishing my name and gays in general. I simple told her that I don't do that kinda thing and later made out with her drunk boyfriend in the bathroom, since that's what happens when you get a straight guy drunk at a nightclub.
 
alas, people who just wanna sit down and whine are the biggest problem in the gay community.

Luckily, they're a small problem.. just loud.

the rest of us are doing just fine, and it's only when I come here that I remember about all the complainers.
 
Originally posted by Soilwork

alas, people who just wanna sit down and whine are the biggest problem in the gay community.

Luckily, they're a small problem.. just loud.

the rest of us are doing just fine, and it's only when I come here that I remember about all the complainers.
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Alas, the proverbial "last word." :=D:
 
Originally posted by TheBled

As corny as I probably sound, obviously the problem isn't only in a gay community, and basically the whole point of my whole corny part of my thread is that instead of pointing out differences between each other just accept the differences and come 'together'.

People look at the differences between each other before anything else. And that's also a problem, with people in general, my main point is that the 'hate' and dislike between each other doesn't really help at all when we want to share the same equality as 'every one else'. Corny as I may sound, and as Preachy as I may sound.

And if this thread or anything else I said is lumped up in the category of the 'complainers', doesn't make any of the things said on here less meaningful. Words always mean something.

*This is only venting.
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You're not corny, a little bit with-holding in your point, but not corny...not a complainer either...nor is anyone else who contributed a relevant point of view to the topic. I mean, c'mon, dude's screen-name is soilwork. (blech) :rolleyes:
 
I would get involved if there was actually a gay community here to get involved with.
 
Where I am, the gay community = targets for rednecks. Okay, that's not a problem with the gay community; it's a problem the gay community has to deal with.
Like, carry bigger guns. :badgrin:

The big problem I ran into with the "gay community" over the hill was that it's about as much a community as is Baghdad. And they treat any newcomers as "fresh meat", someone to be taken advantage of, used, and thrown away. That isn't universal, obviously, but it's very widespread and common.
 
playboy, if you don't think that people complaining about how they're not happy instead of changing things in a way to make themselves happy is a big problem you must be deluded.

and sorry if you don't like the sound of my name. It literaly means working hard and not being afraid to get your hands dirty.

Although it's really just the name of my favorite band.
 
LOL

I did some soilwork today -- sluicing dirt down into the cavities in a slope of construction rock, to make it possible to plant trees!

Hmmm... gotta stay on topic...
One problem with the gay community is that none of the hotties I know are coming out to join my in my volunteer work, wearing just tight pants.
 
you know we have a LOT of hotties with tight pants at my work, but not enough of them are gay.

Wanna work out a trade of some sort?
 
$756.37









And yes, I have those figures right at the tips of my fingers.

I swear, it's like you people think I just jack off all day.
 
I wish more people would get involved or be mentors for LGBT youth, but I still like it a lot.
 
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