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The Racist Roots of "Birtherism"

Jesus Christ, can we just stop hearing the word "racist" all the time?

I can dislike what the current President is doing to this country without harboring racist tendencies!

Jeesh!
 
^ Well, the article doesn't even open for me--something wrong with the link.
 
There never would have been a "Birther issue" if Mr. Obama were as transparent in the beginning as he pretends to be now.

It never was about race, it was about the press never vetting the candidate they wanted to win at all costs. Even now, so many questions about the President are not answered. Hell, they're not even asked.
 
For a lot of people it is about Obama personally, not his performance.

It could be racism, or it could be the things that Huckabee has been saying, that they just don't feel he is "American enough", whatever that means. Could be his race, that he is multi-racial, that he is not from the US mainland, that he spent time in a foreign school as a youth, that he is an intellectual and not a "regular joe".

Personally I see all of those as pluses. Finally we have a president that has a wider perspective on the world and the measured judgment of a keen intellect.

Unfortunately that kind of person is not very popular with certain demographics (like white southern rednecks).
 
NineOfClubs said:
It never was about race, it was about the press never vetting the candidate they wanted to win at all costs. Even now, so many questions about the President are not answered. Hell, they're not even asked.
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Absurd. Fox dug up every single possible trivial piece of dirt they could find and broadcasted it widely.

We know everything we need to know. The rest is none of our business. What matters is how he is performing the job to which he was elected.
 
^ What can I say?

McCain's father wasn't a Marxist from another continent, he wasn't adopted by an Indonesian and packed off to that country, etc. etc..

Most other candidates have released dozens of records from their past, while Obama's are locked up, sealed, hidden. Nothing transparent about that.
 
NineOfClubs said:
McCain's father wasn't a Marxist from another continent, he wasn't adopted by an Indonesian and packed off to that country, etc. etc..
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Yep, this kind of bullshit is exactly what I was talking about.

Since when is having a more cultured background than the typical Ivy League white president has a crime?

You're uncomfortable because someone has a multi-racial and multi-religious background? Tough shit, that's what America was built on.

Sorry, that kind of blind totally unwarranted prejudice is just really offensive to me.
 
Oooooh, I offended you.....

Big whoop.

I'm not uncomfortable with multiculturalism at all, having lived in and loved Hawaii for years, not to mention associating with guys nothing like myself, almost exclusively. I'm an atheist and couldn't care less about anyone's superstitions (religion).

I'm "uncomfortable" with this President because he's purposely destroying this country, its economy, and its future. I'd probably dislike him even more if he were white.
 
NineOfClubs said:
I'm not uncomfortable with multiculturalism at all
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Yet you articulated a lower threshold for the necessity of McCain releasing additional data on himself. Presumably because you are more comfortable with his cultural background?

Kinda hard to not see that as an unfounded prejudice imo.

The line of reasoning you were offering is the same "he's too foreign, he's not really one of us" nonsense that the talking heads on the right are parroting.
 
The point is, it's a totally baseless fear tactic used to try and discredit the president because he does not come from the same traditional rich white Christian middle America background of most past presidents.
 
I think that the concern at the beginning was understandable. We had the right to be concerned with the possibility that Obama was not born in the US...but once Hawaii said he was, it should have ended. I think that a vast majority (not all) of those that still consider this an issue may be consider the "racial" aspect of it.
 
hotatlboi said:
Absurd. Fox dug up every single possible trivial piece of dirt they could find and broadcasted it widely.

We know everything we need to know. The rest is none of our business. What matters is how he is performing the job to which he was elected.
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In my opinion, not very well. I have never thought that the birther movement made much sense, as too much had to be known years ahead. And I do not want him impeached over this (I mean "President Biden" scares the fuck out of me).

I wanted the same level of scrutiny on Obama that was applied to Palin. I wanted to know more about his background, more than what he wrote about in his book. We knew everything about Palin, her family, and her background, and nothing in comparison from his. I wanted the media to do their job at researching the candidates. It wasn't done in '08 in the case of Obama. It was certainly done against Palin and Clinton.
 
Some will not accept that Obama is the president of USA.
 
I accept him. He gets the full respect that the title carries. I just don't like his handling the country, from reluctantly handling crisis after crisis to his priorities.
 
There's no question but that this is a race based issue.

It was designed and is being kept alive by the GOP in order to undermine Obama's election chances, but now it is undermining the credibility of the American presidency itself.

It is considered with derision as a ridiculous circus sideshow in Europe if those we spoke with over the last few weeks are any indication of opinion outside the US.
 
It is certainly a race issue. Let's not be in denial, shall we? Even here on dear old JUB some can't accept the fact that we have a black man (OMG !!) in the WH. Frankly, I wish Obama had dragged this issue out and never released this long form certificate and let the birthers (republicans-teabaggers) spend energy and political capital on this issue because anything to expose them as idiots is a good thing.
 
Joshua_me said:
And I believe that YOU can, NoC....

But this is not about the actions of the president, is it ?
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Yes, it's all about the President.

All Obama had to do was release his birth certificate about 2-1/2 years ago. This is all his mess -- somehow he saw political gain from not giving out the information.
 
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