It's all thoroughly irrelevant anyway. Obama is just another corporate bitch in a big long line of corporate bitches. Goldman-Sachs pretty much run the federal reserve and the rest is taken care of by your military-industrial complex. Doesn't matter who you vote for, you have no say in how your country is run.
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The Racist Roots of "Birtherism"
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But it is. You have more lobbyists than politicians. Banks and arms companies bankroll presidential campaigns. Your country is inherantly fucked, and has been since the days of Ford and Rockafella, you know the fuckers that went "You know that Mussolinis not got some bad ideas." Fascist Italy had financial elite for a reason, coporatism being a central tennet of the ideology. A financial elite that looks rather similar to yours.
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It's not the criticism, it's the ignorant, condescending childish criticism. If an actual case was laid out with good analysis showing why the political system or aspect thereof in question is a bad idea, it would be different.
So we'll agree to disagree then? Fuck me this is affy amicable for the politics forum. And Kuli, my assertions were not childish or ignorant. Maybe a bit condescending, but, you must understand, this is the way I talk about politicians in general. The world is run by people I despise, you should not expect flowery language on this sort of shit by now.
That's capitalism man. Someone's got to sell out to make it work. Idealism doesn't have particularly high profit-margines.
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If we had a monarchy, I'd give it one bit of authority for certain: any time the approval rating of Congress drops below 33%, the monarch can dissolve the outfit and order them all to spend a year at minimum-wage jobs.
And if the president's approval rating gets that low, the monarch could order him to undergo a public spanking, administered by the heir apparent.
Oh -- topic....
Um, the monarch would be allowed to tell prominent persons who deny the validity of government documents that they must bend over, then some minutes later declare, "You are royally fucked".
No one has suggested that any opposition to Obama is racist. The suggestion was that many in the birther movement are basing their absurd statements on that. It's an attempt to delegitimize him because they still can't accept that he is the president.
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Everyone is NOT a racist
That argument is comforting to some, frightening to others and simply factually and statistically impossible.
In the cold light of reality, what does the entire Birther movement imply? First of all, that there are certain highly vocal elements within the American electorate whose tribalistic neuroses overcome any and all good sense. What I hear from them is the equivalent of radio-static whine; nothing of substance, just unthinking, mechanical shrillness in place of genuine consideration. Secondly, that those in question have nothing: no genuine issues or criticisms to bring to the table, so paranoid fantasies must be contrived. Thirdly, that racism is indeed alive and well in the U.S. political arena. No, not all birthers are racist; I have no doubt that many are simply ill informed or unwilling to critically consider their positions; dunking their heads in the proscribed kool-aid, as it were. BUT, a great many are. It is very, very clear from the rhetoric they spout that seething beneath the justifications and politicking verbiage is the pervasive, febrile position: There's an uppity nigger in their Big White House, presuming to tell them what to do. Bet he wasn't even born in this country.
I reiterate: from the outside, this makes U.S. politics look like a freak show of idiocy and paranoia.
I reiterate: from the outside, this makes U.S. politics look like a freak show of idiocy and paranoia.
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I do have a preference for the human race, yes.
Though I do think it might be fun to date a Klingon; the sexual intensity of a Vulcan might be too much, though.
But the Kzin...
WHich stats are those? I did not know there were stats that show who is racist and who is not.
Frightening? How dare I suggest that you look inside your own closet?
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Statistics don't show that -- they show the aggregate result for a population.
Statisitcally, there will be people at both ends of the spectrum. In a population as large as the present one of planet Earth, the odds of there being absolutely no one who isn't a racist are zero.
On a practical level, it's easy to identify one population where racism is likely to be low in incidence: blind people.
BTW: your last comment, being entirely personal and having nothing to do with the conversation, is reportable.
