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The Return of Karma

Someone from the LGBT community...

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“Pretty Ben”, aka Terrence Antoine Ben , 28yo Certified Nurse Assistant of Hattiesburg, Mississippi, died of Covid-19 on 20-Aug-2021.

August 24 at 8:40 AM

New Era Family Funeral Home will be in Charge of Services for Terrence Antoine Ben of Hattiesburg, Ms... 7/20/1993 - 8/20/2021... Please be praying for his Mother, Sibblings, Family and Friends in their time of Bereavement....

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Vaccination rates among law enforcement is as low as 50%. Front-line workers who are in frequent contact with the public should be taking every precaution possible, or else...

Jason Vice posted anti-vaxx content on social media.
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And then came karma...
Alabama state trooper dies after battling COVID-19 [WVTM 13]
An Alabama state trooper died Thursday following a battle with COVID-19, according to the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency.

ALEA said 41-year-old Senior Trooper Jason Vice, of Northport, died Thursday morning from the virus. Vice was assigned to the Highway Patrol Division...

Vice leaves behind a wife and two children, a multitude of other family members and friends, and the ALEA family.

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Refused to get vaccinated. Infected up to 14 of his family members, including his pregnant daughter who was also in the ICU with COVID-19 when her father died.

‘My biggest regret’: Unvaccinated Kennewick man dies after lengthy bout of COVID-19 [Yaktriews]
Richard Linderman didn’t expect to be in the hospital, fighting for his life, just two weeks before his 50th birthday.

Linderman was recently diagnosed with COVID-19 after multiple trips to the emergency room. 14 other family members are battling the virus too, including his 8-months-pregnant daughter also in the Intensive Care Unit.

Before COVID-19, Linderman said he was a “skeptic” but now it’s his “biggest regret.”

Followed by an epitaph:
UPDATE at 10:36 a.m. on 9/2/21: Shortly after his 50th birthday, a beloved husband, father, and Kennewick community member—Richard Linderman—has passed away after a hard-fought battle with COVID-19. His wife formally announced his passing in a public Facebook post on Thursday morning to an outpouring of support from community members across the Tri-Cities.

Linderman battled the virus for more than three weeks with over a dozen of his family members, including his pregnant daughter, contracting it as well. At one time, Linderman described himself as a COVID-19 vaccine “skeptic.” Once faced with a serious case of the virus, Linderman called the decision not to get vaccinated his “biggest regret.”


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Meanwhile...

Meet Veronica Wolski, an Illinois QAnon fan who puts up "Never Comply" signs to encourage people not to give up their freedoms over COVID. Freedoms like not wearing a mask. Or refusing to get a vaccine.


Veronica isn't experiencing much freedom these days from her bed in AMITA Resurrection Hospital.

Her "followers" in QAnon are calling the hospital harassing them to give her a certain horse deworming medication.

AMITA Hospital Targeted with ‘Hundreds' of Emails, Calls After Denying Patient Controversial Drug [5 Chicago]



Update:

Veronica Wolski, Chicago woman at the center of ivermectin firestorm, dies of pneumonia due to COVID-19 infection, officials say [Chicago Tribune]
Veronica Wolski, the QAnon adherent whose recent hospitalization made her a cause celebre for the controversial medication ivermectin, died in the intensive care unit of AMITA Health Resurrection Medical Center early Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. She was 64.

Wolski’s cause of death was pneumonia due to COVID-19 infection with hypothyroidism as a contributing factor, a spokeswoman for the Cook County medical examiner’s office said Monday morning. The manner of death was natural.

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Why do all of these White dudes look the same? Didn't any of these folks have someone in their life to tell them that maybe they were wrong and just maybe being DUMB!!!

My best friend was a little vaccine skeptical, because he had had a form of cancer and didn't know how it would work with his immune system. We talked and argued and after many months of me trying to persuade him to get it on the 4th I just said " This Delta shit isn't going to be good, so let me ask you one question. Do you want that shit?" He got his first shot on the 8th!
 
Why do all of these White dudes look the same? Didn't any of these folks have someone in their life to tell them that maybe they were wrong and just maybe being DUMB!!!
Some did- and they didn't listen. A lot of them had people either in their lives or on the internet or on right-wing media who just amplified and confirmed their unhealthy thinking.

Thankfully, there was a majority of people between didn't listen to the noise. The minute that the vaccines became available, they got in line and got their shot between Jan-Apr. And they ensured that the people in their life got their shots, too.

My best friend was a little vaccine skeptical, because he had had a form of cancer and didn't know how it would work with his immune system. We talked and argued and after many months of me trying to persuade him to get it on the 4th I just said " This Delta shit isn't going to be good, so let me ask you one question. Do you want that shit?" He got his first shot on the 8th!
Good for you and good for your friend.

Your friend has a couple of options- for people who have immune systems that may not have a robust response to the vaccine, they are prescribing three doses.

There's also several research centers who are looking for patients with a history of immune disorders or cancer to participate in studies. As part of the study, they will test for antibody levels to the vaccine. The same lab work can also be ordered by his doctor, after he's had his second shot. That way he can be sure that he is producing antibodies to the virus and that he's less likely to have complications if- god forbid- he were to be exposed.
 
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Joanne Compton Haysmer-Wachs, 58, Racine, WI

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And of course.

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And sadly. Do Not resusciitate.


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Died 2 days later.


This shit melts your lungs people.
 
Seems that any one of them read the other stories about stupid people dying and never imagined this could happen to them :confused:
 
Why aren't prayers helping these people?????
 
Some did- and they didn't listen. A lot of them had people either in their lives or on the internet or on right-wing media who just amplified and confirmed their unhealthy thinking.

Thankfully, there was a majority of people between didn't listen to the noise. The minute that the vaccines became available, they got in line and got their shot between Jan-Apr. And they ensured that the people in their life got their shots, too.


Good for you and good for your friend.

Your friend has a couple of options- for people who have immune systems that may not have a robust response to the vaccine, they are prescribing three doses.

There's also several research centers who are looking for patients with a history of immune disorders or cancer to participate in studies. As part of the study, they will test for antibody levels to the vaccine. The same lab work can also be ordered by his doctor, after he's had his second shot. That way he can be sure that he is producing antibodies to the virus and that he's less likely to have complications if- god forbid- he were to be exposed.

I know this would just feed their hysteria, but maybe the government needs to start charging people with a crime for spreading disinformation about the vaccine. I have a friend at work that won’t get it because of all things the vaccine is doing to people. I ask her what things? She says it’s killing people. I say what people? There’s people dying she says. I said where did you hear this? She says this guy on Facebook, he used to be a sheriff so I trust him.

I’ve read his post. Pure bullshit. Posts that 50% of people in the ICU have had the vaccine. 5% off people getting the vaccine have an extreme reaction and need hospitalization. Thousands have died.

I show her real stats from the CDC and she believes none of it. Don’t believe reports from CNN or ABC but believe some guy on Facebook.


These people need to be charged. Or when he gets covid and dies I’ll surely be posting it here

I’ve straight out told her that she was ignorant and I hope that she didn’t pay the price for it. (She’s 62 with COPD) her daughters attended a Trump rally here in June I think it was, where 40k people attended according to Trump and her. When I showed her that less than 3k people attended according to the police department she told me it was a lie because the newspaper didn’t like republicans. The whole thing just makes me mad.
 
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I know this would just feed their hysteria, but maybe the government needs to start charging people with a crime for spreading disinformation about the vaccine. I have a friend at work that won’t get it because of all things the vaccine is doing to people. I ask her what things? She says it’s killing people. I say what people? There’s people dying she says. I said where did you hear this? She says this guy on Facebook, he used to be a sheriff so I trust him.

I’ve read his post. Pure bullshit. Posts that 50% of people in the ICU have had the vaccine. 5% off people getting the vaccine have an extreme reaction and need hospitalization. Thousands have died.

I show her real stats from the CDC and she believes none of it. Don’t believe reports from CNN or ABC but believe some guy on Facebook.


These people need to be charged. Or when he gets covid and dies I’ll surely be posting it here

I’ve straight out told her that she was ignorant and I hope that she didn’t pay the price for it. (She’s 62 with COPD) her daughters attended a Trump rally here in June I think it was, where 40k people attended according to Trump and her. When I showed her that less than 3k people attended according to the police department she told me it was a lie because the newspaper didn’t like republicans. The whole thing just makes me mad.

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I don't even know what to say.

Except don't let them endanger your health.
 
I know this would just feed their hysteria, but maybe the government needs to start charging people with a crime for spreading disinformation about the vaccine.
"Congress shall make no law ...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press..."

Unfortunately, the terms "speech" and "press" weren't defined as "factual".

That said, Dominion has the right idea.

...I’ve straight out told her that she was ignorant and I hope that she didn’t pay the price for it. (She’s 62 with COPD) her daughters attended a Trump rally here in June I think it was, where 40k people attended according to Trump and her. When I showed her that less than 3k people attended according to the police department she told me it was a lie because the newspaper didn’t like republicans. The whole thing just makes me mad.
She will get it unless she's staying home and never having visitors. The new variants are that contagious. Hopefully she doesn't get seriously ill but the odds are against her considering her age and pre-existing conditions.

Epidemiology classes include a discussion about disinformation that occurs with pandemics. One would think that in these modern times when we understand so much about viruses and bacteria, that we wouldn't be attributing illness and death to crazy things like witches, humors, Jews or astral influences. After all- most of us attended 12 years of education that included biology classes and everyone should know how these things work, right?

Well... what we missed out on is that social media has given the mentally ill walking among us to network and get their crazy theories validated and amplified. It snuck up on us. A year ago, I mentioned to friends that there were these people showing up at Trump rallies with "Q" signs and they believed that a cabal of rich, powerful people were kidnapping children to eat their adrenal glands and they believed that pizza parlors were the front businesses for a pedophilia ring. It all sounded unbelievable, or at worst, it was just a fringe movement that wouldn't affect us all.

Who knew that the Q people and the antivaxxers and the conspiracy nuts would all find each other on the internet? Or that foreign government would revive their Cold War psyops programs to feed the fire on Facebook and Twitter? Or that American right wing media would join them?

It's sad but the only way to think of your friend is that she's gotten into a cult and nothing that you say is going to change what the cult has put into her head... well, except maybe karma and the virus...
 
Some did- and they didn't listen. A lot of them had people either in their lives or on the internet or on right-wing media who just amplified and confirmed their unhealthy thinking.

Thankfully, there was a majority of people between didn't listen to the noise. The minute that the vaccines became available, they got in line and got their shot between Jan-Apr. And they ensured that the people in their life got their shots, too.


Good for you and good for your friend.

Your friend has a couple of options- for people who have immune systems that may not have a robust response to the vaccine, they are prescribing three doses.

There's also several research centers who are looking for patients with a history of immune disorders or cancer to participate in studies. As part of the study, they will test for antibody levels to the vaccine. The same lab work can also be ordered by his doctor, after he's had his second shot. That way he can be sure that he is producing antibodies to the virus and that he's less likely to have complications if- god forbid- he were to be exposed.

My thought from the start was that I didn't want that shit; and I did everything possible to make sure I didn't get it. My cousin who is a former Marine was adamantly against it due to having been forced to take the Anthrax vaccine in the late 90's that messed some guys up really bad. When Delta flared up he went and got his shot as well. He just kept it to himself LOL. I have younger relatives who didn't want the shot, but now that there is a mandate they are probably going to suck it up and get them. My best friend called his cancer doctor and talked it over with her. She told him that his immune system should be back to 100% and that two shots should suffice. However he may qualify for a booster in the future.
 
Well... what we missed out on is that social media has given the mentally ill walking among us to network and get their crazy theories validated and amplified. It snuck up on us. A year ago, I mentioned to friends that there were these people showing up at Trump rallies with "Q" signs and they believed that a cabal of rich, powerful people were kidnapping children to eat their adrenal glands and they believed that pizza parlors were the front businesses for a pedophilia ring. It all sounded unbelievable, or at worst, it was just a fringe movement that wouldn't affect us all.

..but here we are.

Just a friendly reminder here that these people are not technically mentally ill. Their belief in wacky conspiracies is probably a hysterical manifestation of their fear and anger (something we've all succumbed to from time to time). The promise of a return to America's openly racist past has been yanked from them. Everything wrong with these people boils down to their racism, which stems from fear, which is the most motivating human state there is. Thus the ridiculous conspiracies that sound like a season of American Horror Story and the temper tantrums in Walmart and on airplanes. The only mental illness that would produce such delusions are on the schizophrenia spectrum, and psychotic delusions come from within, rather than being appropriated from outside sources. Plus it's clear from all the tiktok videos that none of these people display any of the attendant symptoms.

No, they're just assholes!
 
^ I submit that the inability to recognize and accept reality when confronted with it, accompanied by the total rejection of reality in favor of delusional and false scenarios, is not exactly indicative of an individual living on a sane and rational plane of existence.
 
...Just a friendly reminder here that these people are not technically mentally ill...
The more one learns about mental illness, the more it appears that most people are mentally ill at some point in their life. It's just a matter of degrees.

The fundamental question one has to ask is, "Are we all in the same perception of reality and can we agree on a common set of facts?".

If you read the last couple of paragraphs of Alistair's post, he's giving his understanding of reality to his co-worker and trying to get her to agree on a common set of facts. It didn't work. She's living in a different reality and not only operating with a different set of "facts", she's aggressively rejecting any attempts to be in the same reality as the rest of us.

That's mental illness. And one thing that people who are studying QAnon are finding in their research: many of them have a history of diagnosed mental illness:

In court records of QAnon followers arrested in the wake of the Capitol insurrection, 68% reported they had received mental health diagnoses. The conditions they revealed included post-traumatic stress disorder, bipolar disorder, paranoid schizophrenia and Munchausen syndrome by proxy – a psychological disorder that causes one to invent or inflict health problems on a loved one, usually a child, in order to gain attention for themselves. By contrast, 19% of all Americans have a mental health diagnosis.

Among QAnon insurrectionists with criminal records, 44% experienced a serious psychological trauma that preceded their radicalization, such as physical or sexual abuse of them or of their children.

No, they're just assholes!
Some are. Some aren't.

For years, we've had a stereotype of what a "mentally ill" person is. But when it's the neighbor who suffers a severe depression after a loss, or the family member who self-medicates with alcohol, of the self-destructive friend or the coworker who has some way-out-there religious beliefs, we normalize it instead of realizing that- even if it's temporary- it's mental illness.

What's different with these people who have bought into delusional beliefs about vaccines, the government, COVID-19 and- in complete denial of the 660,000 people who have died- insist it's all a hoax or a plot, is that they're spreading a disease that we have a vaccine to prevent. We need to stop dismissing them as assholes or as harmless members of society and start encouraging them to get help. Help can be encouraging them to delete social media accounts. Help can be getting them to talk with a therapist, their family doctor, a member of the clergy or a trusted friend... someone who can help them get back to the same reality and get their vaccine.

Perhaps if they had gotten help at some point prior to the pandemic (or the 2016 election for that matter), we wouldn't be where we are.
 
OK. Back to karma's continued use of suffering to teach...

Mark Hamister died, unvaccinated, from Covid-19. His children hope his story changes minds [Buffalo News]
Katie Hamister talked to her father, Mark, the Buffalo business leader, regularly by phone. So it wasn't unusual that he called her on the morning of Aug. 3.

It's what he told her that was jarring.

He had tested positive for Covid-19.

Within two days, his condition had deteriorated so rapidly his doctor urged him to get to the emergency room. Hamister, 69, went to Millard Fillmore Suburban Hospital and never left, spending the last two weeks of his life lying in a hospital bed, straining to get enough oxygen into his lungs...

Before he died, Hamister told his daughter he realized he had made one grave mistake.

"He said he regretted not getting vaccinated," Katie Hamister said. "It was his biggest regret. But it's too late at that point. You can't turn back."

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