The rise of White Nationalism

[Kulindahr]

These quotes by Ayn Rand ....

"A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn)."

Rand is full of crap on the first part: somewhere along near the end of the first trimester, the fetus begins to exhibit brain wave patterns indicative of experiencing its life as a human, and at that point, being an experiencing sentient individual, must be deemed to have rights.

The rest of the statement is something that can only be judged by the parent(s).

 

[eastofeden]

I am thinking an army of concubines would do he trick for you Benny....

Seriously..I see alot of women who have pledged to your cause so why don't they donate their bodies (for God and Jesus of course) and churn out white babies like an assembly line?

They could do it for 20 years and maybe get a retirement package from the white racist society aka alt right aka white supremists...aka white nationalists... aka Breitbart....

It would be a shame if a bunch of non white men got them pregnant though..what WOULD you do with the babies?

 

[johaninsc]

yeah, I could see them dreaming of white girls of child bearing age being ordered to live in harems or procreation centers; forced to produce litters

and teenaged white boys masturbating would become a federal crime...as every sperm is sacred

oh, and of course...the evil gays must pay the ultimate price for "treasonous breeding crimes"

makes me think of that movie The Handmaid's Tale..which I understand is now being made into a series for hulu

 

[Mariatenebre]

The embryo is a living thing which left unmolested will probaby become a viable human baby. It is not dead. It is alive. That is science. It is human, not some other species nor a vegetable. That also is science.
More is invoved than the life of the child, or the lifestyle of the parents. Society, the nation, the civilization and the human species have a stake in its survival. Our nation and civilization are at stake, but most of the great civilizations of Europe are in danger of being aborted out of existence. Some of us believe they are worth saving. Their loss is likely to be a new dark age.

But it hasn't become a viable human yet. Again it has no sentience, intelligence or personhood. Those things come later in the womb meaning again these pre lifeforms are not life in the same way we are they aren't even life the same way my cat is. They are protolife not life. Further more if you want to ensure that Europeans give birth they do things like give tax breaks to couples with children. Further more I don't see any conservative who claims to consider these embyros on the same level as humans ever want to pay for the care involved in these children. Hell you people bitch at the women who use wic and welfare.

yeah, I could see them dreaming of white girls of child bearing age being ordered to live in harems or procreation centers; forced to produce litters

and teenaged white boys masturbating would become a federal crime...as every sperm is sacred

oh, and of course...the evil gays must pay the ultimate price for "treasonous breeding crimes"

makes me think of that movie The Handmaid's Tale..which I understand is now being made into a series for hulu

That kind of makes me think of David Lane's awful piece of fiction he wrote called K.D. Rebel basically it featured these White Supremacists who embraced a perverted racist and sexist version of Norse Paganism who kidnap White Women and basically rape them and use them as concubines. They even killed infertile women or women who have had their tubes tied. Once more the story is such a male fantasy because the women just go along this and accept it. Once more David Lane knew nothing of Norse society. He basically stated that a man should not have to woo a woman but simply capture her and take her. When in ancient Norse society rape was punished. Not only that but many women were trained to fight and could kick rapist's asses like the Shieldmaidens who wouldn't have stood for a second of the treatment the men in David's novels treated women. I think on that show Vikings it even depicted a Shielmaiden who kicked the ass of men who came to rape her. Once more his conception of Norse religion was just a bunch of sex and "fertility" rituals that had little to do with Norse religion at all.

Oh as for gays many gays are now breeding like Catholics with surrogates and adoption etc.

 

[Benvolio]

A newborn baby is hardly sentient, intelligent or a person. Nor can it survive without total care.

 

[rareboy]

^ That is, without doubt, the stupidest thing you've written on this board ever.

I hope you know what an accomplishment this is.

But to the point people.

This isn't a fucking thread about abortion and at what point a fetus become a human. It is about the rise of White Nationalism.

If you want to have this same stupid, sterile discussion with Benvolio, please make a separate thread.

 

[gsdx]

A newborn baby is hardly sentient, intelligent or a person. Nor can it survive without total care.

A newborn is completely aware of its surroundings. It may not understand them, but it is aware. It is intelligent enough to bond with it's mother, to let the mother know its needs. It certainly isn't a Cabbage Patch Doll.

First, you're saying an embryo is all of these things. Now, when it is born, it is none of these things. Just like Trump, you're flip-flopping all over the place and completely forgetting what you've said before.

 

[Benvolio]

A newborn is completely aware of its surroundings. It may not understand them, but it is aware. It is intelligent enough to bond with it's mother, to let the mother know its needs. It certainly isn't a Cabbage Patch Doll.

First, you're saying an embryo is all of these things. Now, when it is born, it is none of these things. Just like Trump, you're flip-flopping all over the place and completely forgetting what you've said before.

No, look again. We all know the facts. You think you can change the substance by changing the words.

 

[Benvolio]

Again, what you call white nationalism is defensive to attacks on whites. Here is a university forum demonizing "whiteness", and it is just an example of the "minorities to the maximum extent possible" mindset of liberals. http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/30248/

 

[gsdx]

^ Yet you vilify everybody who doesn't share your lily-white ass. You are one of the many who cannot live in a country that is spoiled by colour, and you cause chaos and hatred because of it.

 

[Benvolio]

^ Yet you vilify everybody who doesn't share your lily-white ass. You are one of the many who cannot live in a country that is spoiled by colour, and you cause chaos and hatred because of it.

Whom have I vilified--other than democrats? I have objected to the destruction of the whire majority. Not the same as vilifying the replacements

 

[palemale]

Whom have I vilified--other than democrats? I have objected to the destruction of the whire majority. Not the same as vilifying the replacements

In the early years of the Republic, most Southern states did not have white majorities. People of African descent were the majority, they just happened to be slaves. Indeed, in the early years of the Republic, native Americans were in the majority. In the 18th Century into the early 20th Century, the Irish, Jews and Italians were considered non-white. White supremacists thought Catholicism would destroy the white majority. What people like you who fear that the white majority it being destroyed need to understand is that the only thing destroying the white majority is white supremacy. Everyone else is just living their lives and accepting that people of every race are entitled to certain inalienable rights. You know, the ones in the Declaration of Independence.

 

[Benvolio]

In the early years of the Republic, most Southern states did not have white majorities. People of African descent were the majority, they just happened to be slaves. Indeed, in the early years of the Republic, native Americans were in the majority. In the 18th Century into the early 20th Century, the Irish, Jews and Italians were considered non-white. White supremacists thought Catholicism would destroy the white majority. What people like you who fear that the white majority it being destroyed need to understand is that the only thing destroying the white majority is white supremacy. Everyone else is just living their lives and accepting that people of every race are entitled to certain inalienable rights. You know, the ones in the Declaration of Independence.

Bill Clinton and Obama will be disappointed. They are so looking forward to the "positive" end of the white majority and the onrushing "hodgepodge."

 

[palemale]

Bill Clinton and Obama will be disappointed. They are so looking forward to the "positive" end of the white majority and the onrushing "hodgepodge."

Are there any non-white people where you live?

 

[gsdx]

Whom have I vilified--other than democrats?

Your hatred of non-whites is blatantly clear, and you remind us of that in virtually every post you make. When you fear the white race becoming a minority, in your mind, the only way to protect that is to eliminate the non-whites. We've already explained that your intense desire to eliminate abortion to protect the white majority will do just the opposite, because white women seeking abortions is a minority already. Banning abortions will make you even more of a minority. The results are the exact opposite of your desires.

To put it simply, each week you buy a package of jelly beans, but you like only the white ones. So, you cheerfully throw out all of the other colours. And then one day the president passes a law banning you from throwing out any jelly beans because the sugar is drawing too many vermin to the landfills.

So, you're now stuck with all those coloured jelly beans. You will soon have a house full of jelly beans you don't like. Your choices are limited. You can:

1 - stop buying jelly beans entirely
2 - send the jelly beans back to the store where you bought them
3 - learn to accept and enjoy the coloured jelly beans
4 - allow people to continue throwing out coloured jelly beans, keeping your white jelly beans at its current level

#s 1 & 2 are what you would like to happen.
#s 3 & 4 are completely out of the question for you. You will never learn to like them and you will never accept the idea of allowing people to continue throwing them out.

So, when it comes to white nationalism, you have only 2 choices open to you. Stop all non-white immigration AND send all non-white citizens back home. And if their home is the United States, you will have to find some other place to send them where they won't threaten your precious 'superiority'. You vilify all those who threaten that perceived superiority.

It's been tried before. It can't be done.

 

[Kabluey]

Bill Clinton and Obama will be disappointed. They are so looking forward to the "positive" end of the white majority and the onrushing "hodgepodge."

More like looking forward to the end of hatred.

 

[Kulindahr]

A newborn baby is hardly sentient, intelligent or a person.

By its brainwaves it most certainly is. And if you study a bit of developmental science, you'll learn that a baby's brain is more effective at processing information than is an adult's, as it is constantly engaged in interpreting the world and learning to understand it.

 

[Kulindahr]

No, look again. We all know the facts. You think you can change the substance by changing the words.

Sorry, but you plainly don't know the facts. Your claim about newborns is ludicrous to anyone who does.

 

[Benvolio]

My agenda is much simpler. Stop the immigration, stop the abortion. Make a better home for Americans.

 

[rareboy]

Your agenda is to create a country ruled by and for Aryan whites.

We all know your agenda.