The Risk Of Being Sucked After Another Guy????????????

[spooger]

although receptive oral sex has a statistically lower risk of std transmission than unprotected anal sex, it is risky behavior...

anyone receiving oral sex from someone who still carries an infectuous agent (body fluid, bacteria, virus, etc) IS at risk for contracting the std...

and statistically - a greater number of unprotected encounters increases the risk of exposure...

despite our discussions of relative risk as giver or receiver of body fluid, both are at risk if unprotected....period

the only sure ways to decrease or eliminate that risk are 1) protection or 2) practice exclusively with uninfectuous people

 

[luminum]

The person msot at risk int hat scenario is the guy who's doing the sucking, since he's keeping semen in his mouth where possible disease can be absorbed by gum membranes.

 

[SilverRRCloud]

Porns are closer to reality, when it comes to such negatives as the STDs transmissions than most of us would love to admit.

Yup, no need to fool yourself. The sucker dude is not there for you only. And frankly, if I only wanted to have one dude suck me during the nite, I'd get my BF do the deed. It is the variety and the thrill of many that makes porn so attractive and that same notion of promiscuity adds so much spice to life. Sure, it is a personal thing. But judging by the numbers of crusing dudes in most metro areas of Europe and the West Coast, this must be a very massive, personal thing.

Yes, there is a real danger of catching a very serious or not so serious a bug. And there is a very serious risk of not knowing it in the first place and passing it on to the others.

For a guy 'out and about the town', there are basically two alternatives:

a) condom, condom and more of the same, even when doing oral, no matter what part of play you choose to have.

b) lots of medical visits, bills, drugs and an essentially weakened bod, with reduced resistance level, more prone to succummbing to yet another infection...

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I am your A kinda dude. Condom is a must. Period.

Haven't caught anything in years. I am having a full med check up every 6 months. Clean as a whistle. No bills, no drugs, no lost days at work, nonsense.

1/4 to 1/3 of otherwise willing dudes on the West Coast get turned off by the rubber and move on to the next albeit, condomless cock.

1/10 of otherwise willing guys in Europe react in the same fashion.

I can live with all of the above.

Besides, there is quite some silver lining to this cloud. (Pun not intended.)

At the moment, most young, hot and maybe not so smart dudes (yup, the ones coming str8 from the stereotype) are actively after married dudes, when it comes to your standard cruising situations.

I always show up alone, because I am cruising to get some extra sex and not coz I wanna start a debate club. I recognize my friends and other dudes, I know. But I am never starting a major gossip marathon while cruising.

I guess, 'I look str8' in their eyes.

I have never been married and thus, wear no wedding band.

Anyway, I heard from a dude, I knew pretty well. This young dude ran over to him to tell him, I was so cute and married. My friend said,' really, how do you know that?'

'Dude, he would not let me suck his cock without a condom. He must be scared shitless of taking something ugly back to his ole woman'.

I would no go around telling anyone, I am married, if I am not. (Not that it really matters.)

But, I would also stop short of going around and handing out my latest CV, so that the truth be known.

So, yeah, good, ole' rubber is not only turning the dudes off. It works the other way round, too.

SC

 

[cocktales]

^^^^^^ Silver Cloud speaks with silver tongue!

He tell big time truth!

In real-life, you must be careful of who you have sex with and of course covering up; especially in anal sex, because we know how easy the blood vessels can break in the anus and fluids mixing with blood is a NO-NO!

In porn DVDs it seems like the hero of the moment is infallible and STDs just doesn't exist; but NOT SO in real life!

Having sex in wild abandonment is/should be forever gone; but sadly it's NOT.....that's why HIV/AIDS is once again on the up-swing.....

Be careful out there!!!

 

[Soilwork]

the chance of catching HIV from GETTING a blowjob is just about zero.

I think it's technically possible, but I'm not sure if there's a documented case.

You CAN get Herpes that way, and I think maybe a few others, but the risk is something that most men are willing to live with.

 

[MRMATTX2]

You CAN get Herpes that way, and I think maybe a few others, but the risk is something that most men are willing to live with.

You got that right!

 

[Corny]

I think it's technically possible, but I'm not sure if there's a documented case.

there are a few.
the general advice is not to let cum him in your mouth.

 

[Soilwork]

Funny, I've searched for evidence of someone catching HIV from GETTING a blowjob, and all I found was a round table discussion with a bunch of specailists who agreed that it was technically possible but that none of them had ever heard of it.

And one study from Aurstralia which nobody really took seriously.

Apparently someone here possesses magical knowledge that he doesn't feel like sharing.

 

[Soilwork]

there are a few.
the general advice is not to let cum him in your mouth.

well, it's very hard for a guy to cum in your mouth if he's the one sucking your dick.

Unles the laws of physics have changed. If so, MAN, is my face red.

 

[SilverRRCloud]

Strange that some people wish to deny the extensive list of things that you can catch whilst giving or getting a blow job.

The medical literature has recently been describing a large increase Sexually Transmitted Infections due to ORAL SEX. Particularly syphilis. Syphilis shows initial symptoms and then disappears inside you for years before causing any further problems whilst slowly killing you. You may not be able to tell if someone else has syphilis before they give you a blow job (or vice versa).

Besides syphilis you can also catch chlamydia, gonorrhoea, hepatitis B, herpes, and HIV which has been documented many times in the medical literature. Some people just like sticking their head in the sand.

How will you feel when the doctor tells you the test is positive? "But I only did blow jobs, I got told they were really safe." It only takes one - an unlucky one sure.

Ain't it kinda very strange that some people will even consider using condoms, just coz there are few very nasty bugs out there that get easily transmitted via oral sex.

I mean, what's catching a syph, gonorrhoea, hep B, chlamydia, etc, compared to the HUGE discomfort of wearing a rubber.

Guys, you are such unreasonable wussies.

Just kiddin'

SC

 

[james1200]

Soil, do you buy lottery tickets.

Cause your chances of winning compared to the chances of catching HIV from oral sex ....


Well, lets just say: You're welcome to gamble with your own life but whilst you continue to spout such bullshit you are gambling with other JUBBERS lives. I hope you are ready to take the bullet for them. But you wont will you, you'd rather scream and shout and generally blow hot air than help people look out for each other.

Beware the ignorant utterings of false idols.

it makes my cold heart sing when mods say things we can't but would really, really love to....thanks.

 

[Soilwork]

Beware the ignorant utterings of false idols.

I thought you couldn't put mods on ignore.

Can we do that now?

 

[Soilwork]

I have never once said that oral sex is a "ZERO" risk.

Ever.

But since I don't run around screaming like Chicken Little that you can catch HIV from cruising Magic Johnson at the movies, I'm apparently being irresponsible.

I have said many times that "YES, it's possible to catch HIV from oral sex" but that it's rare, and that you need to make up your own mind.

I'd point to these posts, but someone deletes them all.

 

[Soilwork]

You've used the word zero here. And as per usual you are careful in your language, but that's not how people read it.

They read your statement as: Oral sex= zero HIV risk.

And you are irresponsible in your saying that. So perhaps you'd better start being clearer rather than trying to fudge issues.

OK, wait a minute.... you're angry because I'm careful with my language?

And besides, I'm right. From every piece of info I can find, it's quite possible to catch HIV from GIVING a blowjob, although rare (my doctor's words).

It's VERY unlikely to catch HIV form GETTING a blowjob unless the person blowing you has blood in their mouth and you have a sore on your dick.

you need to make your own choices. I've made mine. Some people would prefer to make yours for you.

 

[MRMATTX2]

... From every piece of info I can find, it's quite possible to catch HIV from GIVING a blowjob, although rare (my doctor's words).

It's VERY unlikely to catch HIV form GETTING a blowjob unless the person blowing you has blood in their mouth and you have a sore on your dick.

This is exactly what I've been told by the L.A County Health people, the one's who administer the HIV tests.

This is common knowledge, really no reason to argue. True, it's not ZERO risk. It's just very very small. It's up to each person to decide if they'll are willing to take that risk.

 

[Soilwork]

funny thing is that I've post that "you need to make your own decisions" thing so many times, and it ALWAYS gets deleted when I post it in the forums where certian people can delete posts.

(I then get PMd and called a "total fuckwit")

anyway, someone has to counter the "OH MY GOD YOU CAN CATCH HIV IF YOURE DOWNWIND FROM MANHATTAN" people.

 

[Soilwork]

You call 3% of all HIV infections a small risk? Thats quite a sizeable number. Far more than most people expect.

Not when you consider that virtually no one uses condoms for oral sex and virtually everyone uses condoms for anal.

but you dont' really wanna talk about that, do you?

 

[SilverRRCloud]

Life is not our system of criminal justice, where you have to prove that someone did something illegal and punishable, in order for this person to be sentenced.

Frequently, other rules apply: If in doubt, go for the worst case scenario.

This is how most businesses are run. This is why most sound-minded people buy serious insurance. This is why a few European nations have mandatory health plans that cover almost everyone living there.

Proverbial shit happens. We all know that. It really boils down to what you do to make sure you are not around when it hits the fan.

SC

 

[Soilwork]

Yeh, funny that. never seen a post that says that anywhere on JUB. Someone else is attacking me and asking me to prove things they admit cant be proved, but they've claimed I state oral sex is high risk. Can they prove I've said that? No? Does that stop them making false statements about me and putting words in my mouth? No.

So, why dont you go do some volunteer work for an HIV positive group and tell them your theories. See how much they applaud you.

um...I deliver meals on wheels to HIV patients. and yes, I volunteer.

However, that's not what we're talking about.

if you've never seen a post that says that on JUB, someone else must have deleted the posts. must be the post fairy.

 

[Soilwork]

Had I said something like that, the post would have been deleted.

In fact, I thikn I DID say something like that.