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The Sex Offender's list

Rali_hates_Mondays

Rali_hates_Mondays

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I didn't know that in America you can actually find out the locations and addresses of local sex offenders! In Britain it's illegal for the general public to have such information. There was this televised debate this morning about whether the British public (mainly parents) should know the whereabouts of these criminals. What ultimately became the core of the debate was the issue of ensuring the safety of children vs the rehabilitation and recovery of the criminals on that list and to an extent, human rights.

Do you feel comfortable knowing that there is/maybe a sex offender living near you? maybe in the same street! What if you were a parent? Would you react differently? Haven't there been loads of incidents of mobs gathering round these offenders' houses?
 
Oh man, the first year of college we had to do an assignment in my Internet class on finding certain websites, one of them was a Sex Offender website that had the location of them. I searched my area, and damn were there a ton of sex offenders, some right down the street. I don't have kids, but there are a lot of young kids living here and I'm surprised parents let their kids roam around the way they do.

It does come to a shock to see that, but then I think, its better to know where they live then not to know, because they could be living right next door to you.
 
I agree with Brandon, it's better to know where they are. Inform yourself, and protect your children.
 
yeah. i think the best is to also mark them so that everybody can run away from them when he sees one on the street. :roll:
i suggested a yellow star. or a pink triangle.
 
I am glad that we don't have a sex offenders list here. Knowing a sex offender lives in the same suburb isn't going to stop a child from being molested by their uncle at Easter. Its up to the courts to punish criminals not the citizens.
 
One of the many problems with having an online sex offender list is that all sex offenders aren't alike. Few people who view the list take time to see what offense the person committed. Sex offender A may have just looked at illegal porn on the web, while sex offender B molested a child. Lumping all offenses together and failing to distinguish between "apples and oranges" is a problem.

I question whether or not a parent can make good use of the list. Would a parent know if the sex offenders in their community are dangerous molesters or those guilty of a lesser offense? People see the list, and that's all they see. In my opinion serious sex offenders should wear an electronic monitor. That may be a better way to keep track of them.

The last important issue is should a sex offender who has served time and paid for his/her crime have to be branded the rest of their life? A serious sex offender should be either locked up forever or electronically monitored. The poor sucker who happened to look at illegal porn or some other minor offense, shouldn't have to carry a "scarlet letter" the rest of his life.
 
Bad idea.

The general public are idiots and have proven that they can not be trusted with such information.
 
Most sexual abuse of children is carried out by someone the child knows, not by a random stranger.

Also, many pedophiles are "situational pedophiles", which means they act out only under conditions of stress or anxiety. Under conditions of peace and calm, they're fine.

It seems to me that, shameful and reprehensible though sexual abuse is, it only makes the situation worse to ostracize and demonize pedophiles. Increasing the stress level on them probably only makes them more likely to act out.

I do think information about criminal history should be available to parents so they know who's likely to act out and so protect their children. Perhaps having such information available causes more good than harm. It should only be available to those who need to know, not everyone and anyone.

I'm sure, though, that requiring signs in the yards of convicted pedophiles (as is the case in some parts of the USA) is not helpful and I don't support it.
 
Hooded Rat - I guess you're referring to the debacle a few years ago when the News of the World published the names and addresses of a few paedophiles, and some were attacked by members of the public. A paediatrician was also attacked, and there were a few cases of mistaken identity when completely innocent men were beaten up.

I don't believe that the general public should have the right to know where convicted sex offenders live. Several reasons, some of which have already been pointed out: it often leads to members of the public taking the law into their own hands; most child abuse is carried out by people known to the child, not strangers; and it fuels the misconception of 'stranger danger'.
 
hty2 said:
Great state, Texas! Someday I hope to understand it. Where else do you see signs posted on the entrances to businesses stating "It is unlawful to enter these premises in possession of an unlicensed firearm. Violators are subject to a fine of $10,000 and imprisonment." Anyone can get a permit to carry a firearm so long as you haven't been convicted of a felony.

Drive drunk and get arrested? First offense -- $2,500 fine and a year in jail. Second offense, a stiffer fine and a couple years in prison.

But, cross the border illegally -- Hey, y'all, welcome to Texas. Here's your food stamps, your medical care card, free education for your kids when you get them here, and a list of places where you can get a job.
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Slightly off topic but nice to see you confusing the criminal justice system with basic human decency. (And yes I know illegally entering the country is a crime but it's not in the same league as DUI or firearms offences.)
 
i don't require the exact physical address of the offender. and if its for possesion of porno, i don't care. all i want is the general location. there are a number of young children in my area and the info would be used to exercise extra diligence in watching after the children.

i have no intention of harassing or attacking paedophiles/rapists/etc but want to know if (most likely they are) they are in the immediate area.

research and crime logs have shown that child molesters/similar deviants are unable to be cured at this time and many continue these actions upon release from prison.

will have to reconsider my point of view as it just occurred to me that "keeping an eye out" should just be part of the good neighbor thing and thus makes the offender location somewhat extraneous.:(
 
Do you feel comfortable knowing that there is/maybe a sex offender living near you? maybe in the same street!
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Would I want a registered sex offender living next door?
No. Who would?
Where should they live?
Don't know, care less...

What if you were a parent? Would you react differently?
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No.

Haven't there been loads of incidents of mobs gathering round these offenders' houses?
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Whether you agree or disagree with their methods, these "Mobs" are concerned about the safety and welfare of their children and their neighbor's children.
When they are protesting against having a violent sexual predator move in near their children - I support them 100%.
 
I have a friend who has to register as a sex offender. He was busted by a cop for getting a blowjob in a park at 3 in the morning. Anytime he goes for a job, he has to explain the whole situation to his prospective employers. Not all sex offenders are equal.
 
they should keep them locked up and never let them out

Send em to Gitmo
 
eddielee said:
One of the many problems with having an online sex offender list is that all sex offenders aren't alike. Few people who view the list take time to see what offense the person committed. Sex offender A may have just looked at illegal porn on the web, while sex offender B molested a child. Lumping all offenses together and failing to distinguish between "apples and oranges" is a problem.
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The last time I looked at the sex offenders' list, THERE IS NO MENTION WHATSOEVER of what the offense was, at least here in the United States. In other words, a person who may have raped and killed three six-year-old children in 1974 (and gotten out of prison in 2005), or somebody who downloaded ONE porn pictutre of a minor by mistake, are treated the same on the list. Once somebody's name is on that list, the public TEND to assume the very worst, that ALL listed peoiple are rapists or paedophiles or worse!

People have been killed, had their houses burned to the ground, etc. because they're on the list.

Some states have such restrictive laws (such as not living within a mile of a school, or anywhere near children) that it is virtually impossible for them to live anywhere in that state at all. They were already punished to whatever extent the law imposed on them, otherwise they wouldn't be on the registry in the first place. Furthermore, there are LAWS against what they may be feared to be capable of doing. Let them be punished when (and if...and often that's a VERY big "if" that will never happen) they do something wrong.

This registry is one of the most invasive and dangerous things out there
 
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