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On Topic Discussion The Tragedy of Notre Dame

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Awesome.
 
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It is rather pathetic that some posters immediately had to make this thread topic about something else. Particularly given most of the drivel they think is thread worthy. I guess that when you only have ranking whores as your primary cultural pursuit, it taints how you view the world.

I think that perhaps you have to have visited Notre Dame to feel the pain of its destruction.

Many of its windows...dating back to 1260 have been destroyed, although one has apparently survived intact.

The north and south rose windows are among the most magnificent works of art from the medieval period. Period.

Don't you want to hear some people's honest opinions about this rather than group mourning thread about how sad,
how sad, how sad with same opinion in all the posts ?
 
Just look at the bright side,
the newly restored will be fire resistant and will not be burnt easily ....
 
My mom said my dad and her took a boat tour by Notre Dame but the tour guide spoke in French . . . and they didnt
 
^ They didn't speak but... did they understand French? :mrgreen:
 
No Belamo, they didnt speak French

I mentioned to my mom about a trip in 1972 when the family went to London and we saw all the must see sights (Westminster Abbey, Tower of London, Madame Tussaud's, etc) and we also went to Germany, Belgium, Amsterdam, Brussels. It was really amazing because the trip was on my parent's teacher's salary. I remember my dad shouting at a German waiter and he thought shouting was the key for the waiter to understand him
 
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Selma Hayek's husband (worth $35 Billion) donated $113 million for Notre Dame
 
I have asked the moderator to remove the photos


Selma Hayek's husband (worth $35 Billion) donated $113 million for Notre Dame

She is American.
Her husband should donate to the American's poor is more worth while
 
No Belamo, they didnt speak French

I mentioned to my mom about a trip in 1972 when the family went to London and we saw all the must see sights (Westminster Abbey, Tower of London, Madame Tussaud's, etc) and we also went to Germany, Belgium, Amsterdam, Brussels. It was really amazing because the trip was on my parent's teacher's salary. I remember my dad shouting at a German waiter and he thought shouting was the key for the waiter to understand him

Today all Germans and French in service positions speak almost perfect English, and often not simply perfect but colloquial American English with little and sometimes no accent. It has been my impression for some time that just about everyone else under the age 40 in major cities does as well. Last summer I met a German lawyer in Italy who told me that every other week his office holds a staff meeting in English to promote better fluency. The last time I was in Paris I was told by a highly placed perfectly English fluent official that English was essential for rising in the government bureaucracy. I recently had two experiences in Italy where a government guide spoke Italian on a tour only because there was a rule that if there were one Italian in the group, Italian was required to be spoken, otherwise English was the default language no matter where members of the group were from--the assumption being that they would more likely understand English than any other language.
 
Wise counsel from Bernard-Henry Levy:

"
In the aftermath, what are we to think? Above all, what must we do? We must hope that the sacrifice of Notre-Dame serves to awaken slumbering consciences and that, through this disaster, people come to realize that Europe is Notre-Dame writ large, a great work of art, a legacy in danger, a brilliant ray of shared intelligence. All of this is too important, too vital. We cannot allow success to those who seek to divide and inflame the people of Europe, builders of temples and palaces, creators of beauty. The lesson of Notre-Dame. For Holy Week, a new lesson of the Tenebrae.
"

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-a-night-with-our-lady-of-paris/

I had no idea what the Tenebrae was, so:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenebrae
 
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He nails it.

No, as usual with the French, or with any "philosopher laureate", he's getting, doing, saying it WRONG.
The "Europe writ large", the "great work of art, legacy in danger, brilliant ray of shared intelligence", all that is "too important, too vital" about the European creators is elsewhere than in the pile of stones and timber: if anything about Notre-Dame, its "lesson" lies in the art of its masonry and constructive ingenuity, not in the dumbfounding appearance for the minds of the perpetually dumbfounded.
 
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The view from across the organ down the nave.....

Although the 19th century organ must be totally cleaned, it survived and will be playable again.

i had the pleasure of hearing it played when I was in Paris as a student.

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