The Walking Dead [merged]

[gtru1981]

Carl is acting more like Shane than his father at this point. In a post zombie world,I don't think anyone would object to backhanding him.

lol...agreed...a little kick in the pants wouldnt hurt!

 

[Aisle72]

Carl is a kid doing kid things.

1) throwing rocks / teasing the zombie / playing like he was shooting zombie (playful behavior)

2) not believing in heaven (kids too young to understand)

3) spying on Randall, just silent afterwards (kids get scared or mind games)

4) wandering off from safe haven (kids do that when bored or think they can survive)

5) not listening to parents / adults (kids in general)

6) causing trouble and knowing better (kids in general)

7) wanting to be in adult conversation (curiousity or wanting to belong)

8) knowing it was his fault (distraught & sadden)

9) playing with adult things like guns or daryl's chopper (curious about adult toys)

10) being a kid at 11 yoa (just being a kid at 11 yoa)

Give the kid a break unless you land on the show to give him a whipping or punishment. Plus, Dale was a useless turd with an opinion on EVERYTHING, so good riddence.

 

[Ohiospeedo]

Probably one of the slowest (and worst) episodes. I was yelling at the zombie to get Carl. Little shit needs to go.

And Lori is starting to get even more annoying. Grow a backbone..."I Support you, Rick".

How many more episodes do we have?

 

[Ram]

Best ending ever. I literally "omg"ed.

How would you have voted? I would have opted to execute the guy but in a more humane way. Something slow and painless.

 

[DigitalFudge]

Finally! The most annoying character (Next to Lori) is fucking gone.


When Shane said "Oh my God" in reply to what he was saying about Civilization I busted out loling.

I hear you Shane, I hear you.


How would I have voted? I would of let him live, and had someone else keep an eye on him with me just so we can catch him doing something shady and put him down.

 

[Spiff]

I think things are shaping up to make my prediction from the previous page correct. They discover Shane is infected, and Carl kills Shane. The focus has been heavy on Carl's struggle between Rick and Shane, and he wants to grow up fast. What better way to impress his pa than to finish off Shane himself? I actually thought he was going to pull a gun on Randall in the barn last night before Shane walked in.

And I think Randall's group will find the farm, not sure where it will go from there yet.

I kept waiting for that zombie to detach his own legs off his feet stuck in the mud and chase Carl feetless.

I agree Rick's family does act stupid. After all they been through with Carl, they let him go out exploring alone or don't keep track of his whereabouts.

 

[Saybrooke]

Ya'll better stop hatin on Lori!! She's the best one on the show!

 

[DigitalFudge]

Ya'll better stop hatin on Lori!! She's the best one on the show!

The way she mothers infuriates me. It's no wonder Carl is acting out the way he is. She needs to start validating his feelings of being an equal member of the group in appropriate stages.

Keeping him segregated is turning him into an imp

 

[GamerBear]

Carl is a kid doing kid things.

1) throwing rocks / teasing the zombie / playing like he was shooting zombie (playful behavior)

2) not believing in heaven (kids too young to understand)

3) spying on Randall, just silent afterwards (kids get scared or mind games)

4) wandering off from safe haven (kids do that when bored or think they can survive)

5) not listening to parents / adults (kids in general)

6) causing trouble and knowing better (kids in general)

7) wanting to be in adult conversation (curiousity or wanting to belong)

8) knowing it was his fault (distraught & sadden)

9) playing with adult things like guns or daryl's chopper (curious about adult toys)

10) being a kid at 11 yoa (just being a kid at 11 yoa)

Give the kid a break unless you land on the show to give him a whipping or punishment. Plus, Dale was a useless turd with an opinion on EVERYTHING, so good riddence.

You forgot asking your daddy to pull the trigger and shoot him. He's getting creepy and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets bit and turned into a zombie next season. Lori too.

 

[DigitalFudge]

He's getting creepy.

Yes!

The kid is obviously deranged.

 

[GamerBear]

Ughhhhhhhhh. I wish it was T-Dog instead of a cow.

What a waste of space. And that horrid name.

T-Dog has so very little lines it's crazy. I would LOL hard if in the last episode he says "Fuck these crazy white people, I'm getting the fuck up out of this bitch" gets into one of the many many cars on that farm and drives off.

 

[Aisle72]

T-Dog has so very little lines it's crazy. I would LOL hard if in the last episode he says "Fuck these crazy white people, I'm getting the fuck up out of this bitch" gets into one of the many many cars on that farm and drives off.

I like that quote "Fuck these crazy white people, I'm getting the fuck up out of this bitch" is what I am sure T-Dog would say word for word (totally unscripted of course)!!!!

 

[BlondeCanadian]

Last nights episode was painful. Everytime Dale talked I wanted to die and he talked soo much... I agree Rick and his family are turning out to be the biggest problems in the group. Lori is an idiot and so is carl.. I understand the kids will be kids thing but you would think in that world even kids would learn better and the ones who dont would die. They need to teach him some responsibilities and make him part of the group; it is not rocket science. Good Riddance Dale, I understanded the need for his character and would sort of agree with some of his messages but the examples are stupid and his speeches are always holier than thou and pandering

 

[bluedragon4]

I am already 3 episodes behind. I think I will wait til the season shows up on streaming Netflix. This season I could care who lives or dies. They are all annoying. I am ready to follow the story of a new group of people.

 

[DigitalFudge]

They are all annoying.

This is factual

 

[Salemite]

Episode 12 summary. Full of spoilers.

Spoiler

Episode begins with Dale's funeral. Rick makes a speech, intercut with Andrea, Daryl, Shane and T-Dog killing some random walkers in a field. Funeral ends with Rick saying that the group has to set aside their differences and pull together in honor of Dale. Cue theme music.

Hershel finally allows everybody to move into the house, and he reveals why the farm was safe for so long and why it won't be for much longer...

Hershel explains that as winter approaches, the swamp will harden and the creek will dry out. (This has been apparent all season with Hershel's group rescuing zombies from the mud, Carl's encounter last episode, etc.) There's also a brief shot of the group reenforcing the fence around the farm (in the opening, before Hershel's explanation).

Rick decides to let Randall loose instead of killing him, just like they had originally planned. Shane gets all mad at the idea, but Rick says it's his decision and Shane needs to shut up. Later, Carl reveals to Shane that he done fucked up and stole Daryl's gun as well as released that walker from the swamp, but asks him not to tell anyone. While Shane is building a lookout platform, Lori comes to talk to him. She thanks him for everything he had done (saving them from Atlanta, etc.) and says she's truly sorry for all the crap that happened between them.

Shane asks Rick that he and Daryl be allowed to go dump Randall, but Rick refuses. Shane then tells Rick about what Carl did and gives him Daryl's gun. Rick has a talk with his son and basically tells him to grow up. Meanwhile, Shane sneaks into the shed and releases Randall. They secretly leave the farm and take off into the woods together. Shane tells the kid that he wants to join their group and asks Randall where it is. He tells Shane that they have a camp on a highway five miles away. Shane then proceeds to snap his neck.

The group discovers that Randall is gone and gets all panicked. Suddenly, a bloody Shane appears. He says that Randall knocked him out and escaped (he actually smashed his head into a tree after killing Randall) and that he tried to run after him. Two pairs head out to look for Randall: Glenn & Daryl and Rick & Shane. Daryl uses his epic tracking skills to deduce that Randall and Shane actually walked together and had a scuffle near the tree with Shane's blood on it. Then, a zombie-Randall appears. Daryl misses with his crossbow, there's a fight, Glenn takes out Randall. Daryl uses his epic Sherlock skills to deduce that Randall was killed by a broken neck and zombified in spite of having no bite marks.

Shane and Rick meanwhile arrive on a field. Rick tells Shane that he knows Shane plans to kill him there. Shane plans to pin the murder on Randall and says he's better for Lori and that Rick has no idea how to fix the situation. Shane wants Rick to raise his gun so he wouldn't have to kill an unarmed man. Rick talks him out of the murder, telling him that there's still a way out of it. As Shane is lowering his gun, Rick stabs him in the chest, killing him. Carl appears, having left the farm looking for them, and sees Shane rising from the dead while Rick's back is turned. He shoots Shane in the head, attracting a nearby group of walkers. Rick and Carl stand over Shane's corpse, oblivious to the huge horde of walkers approaching the farm from the woods.

End episode.

 

[GamerBear]

Episode 12 summary. Full of spoilers.

Spoiler

Episode begins with Dale's funeral. Rick makes a speech, intercut with Andrea, Daryl, Shane and T-Dog killing some random walkers in a field. Funeral ends with Rick saying that the group has to set aside their differences and pull together in honor of Dale. Cue theme music.

Hershel finally allows everybody to move into the house, and he reveals why the farm was safe for so long and why it won't be for much longer...

Hershel explains that as winter approaches, the swamp will harden and the creek will dry out. (This has been apparent all season with Hershel's group rescuing zombies from the mud, Carl's encounter last episode, etc.) There's also a brief shot of the group reenforcing the fence around the farm (in the opening, before Hershel's explanation).

Rick decides to let Randall loose instead of killing him, just like they had originally planned. Shane gets all mad at the idea, but Rick says it's his decision and Shane needs to shut up. Later, Carl reveals to Shane that he done fucked up and stole Daryl's gun as well as released that walker from the swamp, but asks him not to tell anyone. While Shane is building a lookout platform, Lori comes to talk to him. She thanks him for everything he had done (saving them from Atlanta, etc.) and says she's truly sorry for all the crap that happened between them.

Shane asks Rick that he and Daryl be allowed to go dump Randall, but Rick refuses. Shane then tells Rick about what Carl did and gives him Daryl's gun. Rick has a talk with his son and basically tells him to grow up. Meanwhile, Shane sneaks into the shed and releases Randall. They secretly leave the farm and take off into the woods together. Shane tells the kid that he wants to join their group and asks Randall where it is. He tells Shane that they have a camp on a highway five miles away. Shane then proceeds to snap his neck.

The group discovers that Randall is gone and gets all panicked. Suddenly, a bloody Shane appears. He says that Randall knocked him out and escaped (he actually smashed his head into a tree after killing Randall) and that he tried to run after him. Two pairs head out to look for Randall: Glenn & Daryl and Rick & Shane. Daryl uses his epic tracking skills to deduce that Randall and Shane actually walked together and had a scuffle near the tree with Shane's blood on it. Then, a zombie-Randall appears. Daryl misses with his crossbow, there's a fight, Glenn takes out Randall. Daryl uses his epic Sherlock skills to deduce that Randall was killed by a broken neck and zombified in spite of having no bite marks.

Shane and Rick meanwhile arrive on a field. Rick tells Shane that he knows Shane plans to kill him there. Shane plans to pin the murder on Randall and says he's better for Lori and that Rick has no idea how to fix the situation. Shane wants Rick to raise his gun so he wouldn't have to kill an unarmed man. Rick talks him out of the murder, telling him that there's still a way out of it. As Shane is lowering his gun, Rick stabs him in the chest, killing him. Carl appears, having left the farm looking for them, and sees Shane rising from the dead while Rick's back is turned. He shoots Shane in the head, attracting a nearby group of walkers. Rick and Carl stand over Shane's corpse, oblivious to the huge horde of walkers approaching the farm from the woods.

End episode.

From this...

Spoiler

PLEASE LET CARL DIE! PLEASE LET CARL DIE! He's stupid for wondering off, I guess Rick telling him to grow up didn't get through his thick skull. I am surprised that it doesn't take a bite for someone to become a zombie. Unless Shane was infected all this time and Randall was too when he stabbed that zombie long ago.

 

[TheLyingGame]

I heard that originally the dying cow Dale came across was supposed to be a dead cast member. (?) I wonder if they had to change it when Jeffrey Demunn asked to be written out of the show. or maybe unknown character and Dale were both supposed to die.

and Glen Mazzara tweeted;
@goaltenderherk The writers & I decide who dies. The producers weigh in. AMC weighs in next. I tell the actor when I feel script is ready. I told one of our actors they were being killed then changed my mind. I'll tell who on #TalkingDead after the finale.

I wonder who it was...

 

[rotary]

^ it is the same zombie from earlier in the episode that carl fucked with (very odd scene)

They were my favourite scenes last episode. Very creepy.

The writers should have killed off Carl instead of Sophia. Can't stand his character.

 

[Saybrooke]

The way she mothers infuriates me. It's no wonder Carl is acting out the way he is. She needs to start validating his feelings of being an equal member of the group in appropriate stages.

Keeping him segregated is turning him into an imp

Lori is an amazing mother!! I feel like whenever I'm parenting my kids, my sister or my boyfriend I turn into her!

I deefinitly have her parenting style, lol plus I would never allow my child to do the things Carl does! Shes spot on!