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The Walking Dead [merged]

Oh okay gotcha. I'm terrible since they started adding people willy-nilly starting with Season 4 about actually remembering anyone's names until seeing them in a few episodes. I still can't remember alcoholic black guy's name.

I can't remember alcoholic black guy's name either. The show lost some of its appeal to me when they messed with the core group and started adding members randomly. The show is a bit repetitive lately: zombies...kill zombies!...stumble upon more survivors...have some internal drama who is the leader...hunt for food and other supplies...zombies...kill zombies!....rinse and repeat about a hundred times....once in awhile, a character or two dies...then add more random people....etc, etc.

I find myself sitting through lots of slow periods to get to the good parts.

I miss Shane. He was a badass "villain".
 
I can't remember alcoholic black guy's name either. The show lost some of its appeal to me when they messed with the core group and started adding members randomly. The show is a bit repetitive lately: zombies...kill zombies!...stumble upon more survivors...have some internal drama who is the leader...hunt for food and other supplies...zombies...kill zombies!....rinse and repeat about a hundred times....once in awhile, a character or two dies...then add more random people....etc, etc.

I find myself sitting through lots of slow periods to get to the good parts.

I miss Shane. He was a badass "villain".

Bob.
I'm not a big fan of why they "added" him. He's listed as a main character on the Walking Dead wiki too.

I noticed on that wiki (to which I don't have a link) that Tara has the option of becoming a season regular, so, that's kind of nice! I liked her story. Besides, she represents the gays!
 
I can't remember alcoholic black guy's name either. The show lost some of its appeal to me when they messed with the core group and started adding members randomly. The show is a bit repetitive lately: zombies...kill zombies!...stumble upon more survivors...have some internal drama who is the leader...hunt for food and other supplies...zombies...kill zombies!....rinse and repeat about a hundred times....once in awhile, a character or two dies...then add more random people....etc, etc.

I find myself sitting through lots of slow periods to get to the good parts.

I miss Shane. He was a badass "villain".

They're not random, they are included in the comics; only logical that they'd include them in the show as well.
 
Bob.
I'm not a big fan of why they "added" him. He's listed as a main character on the Walking Dead wiki too.

I noticed on that wiki (to which I don't have a link) that Tara has the option of becoming a season regular, so, that's kind of nice! I liked her story. Besides, she represents the gays!

Ah that's right, I just couldn't remember his name for some reason.

They're not random, they are included in the comics; only logical that they'd include them in the show as well.

Well then I guess maybe not random for the show, but it feels random for the comics. Maybe "random" is the not the best word...but I do feel that it is more difficult to empathize and relate to characters if there is a constant influx of them.
 
Last night was the worst episode for me since the beginning. I never really liked Agnes too much so a whole episode of Agnes was too much for me. I was hoping one of the zombies would eat Agnes at the end but no luck. Oh well...hopefully Agnes will disappear now for a few weeks.
 
Last night was the worst episode for me since the beginning. I never really liked Agnes too much
Who the fuck is Agnes? You mean Beth.

For me this was one of the best of season 4. Her and Darryl were seemingly exact opposite personalities so it was amusing and interesting to pair them up in an episode. Although it didn't end the way I expected. All during the show I kept saying "those two are so gonna fuck. . ." It never happened. I guess Darryl is a gentleman.
 
Some observations:

1) Lizzy might have killed Karen and the other guy. Carol might have taken the blame because she did teach the kids how to kill.

2) Wow, NEVER saw that sequence of Tyrese running with something in his arms.

3) Can you say, "RENDEVOUS PLAN?" Gawd, after the farm house debacle, you'd think they would have learned.

4) TERMINUS. I think that's going to be one scary place. They already included Woodberry, an idyllic town. Can't imagine there'd be another one. I read about some possibilities on line and they are chilling.

5) Eugene might turn out to be a total fake in the end. "Classified?!" There's no government, no military, no anything and he's withholding info like it's the Cold War or something. He might be as useless as Milton. They're too similar imo.

I like where the season is heading. At least two groups are convening upon each other.
 
Carl almost became zombie chow tonight. Almost. Damn. I was really hoping.](*,)

Wouldn't that have been fun? To kill off one of the most hated characters?

And then Rick heaved, but there was no sign of relief.

Damn.
 
Beth was kidnapped! I'm sure of it and now Daryl's in with the wrong crowd. Three groups are now descending upon Terminus. What will they find and how much will we learn in the last three episodes of season 4????
 
I was surprised Daryl was so careless when he opened the door, thought he knew better. And when the Walkers were chasing him, didn't they seem to be moving a little too fast, and they walked downstairs?
 
I was surprised Daryl was so careless when he opened the door, thought he knew better. And when the Walkers were chasing him, didn't they seem to be moving a little too fast, and they walked downstairs?

I'm surprised walkers can even move at all after several months so there is a suspension of belief needed.
 
Who the fuck is Agnes? You mean Beth.

For me this was one of the best of season 4. Her and Darryl were seemingly exact opposite personalities so it was amusing and interesting to pair them up in an episode. Although it didn't end the way I expected. All during the show I kept saying "those two are so gonna fuck. . ." It never happened. I guess Darryl is a gentleman.

No...I mean Agnes. I never bothered to learn her name because I don't like her and when I don't like someone and I don't know their name I call them Agnes.

She managed to ruin Daryl in just two episodes. I never liked her before but I didn't really see her much so it didn't matter. I am just hoping it isn't three weeks in a row...I was bored again this week. Where is Michon?
 
I'd like to learn more about the virus that caused the plague. That needs to be yet another string woven through the various other stories/drama. We haven't learned much about it since Rick told everyone that they were infected.
 
4x14 SPOILERS by far the darkest episode.
Finally Lizzie show her true color and .....

The episode opens with the dream-like scene we saw in the sneak peek of Lizzie playing tag with a walker.

- It's night time and we see Carol, holding Judith and sitting with Lizzie. They are keeping watch while Tyreese and Mika are sleeping. In the background, we hear Tyreese dreaming, seemingly having a nightmare as he protests in his sleep. Carol and Lizzie talk about this world, how it's changed and what the girls must do now to survive. Carol mentions Sophia, her death, how she didn't have a bad bone in her body.

- The next day, the group is walking the tracks again.

- Carol and Tyreese discuss the girls, Carol sharing that she's concerned that Lizzie doesn't really understand how dangerous the walkers are, but that she worries more for Mika, reiterating what she said about Sophia, that Mika doesn't have a bad bone in her body. The group smells a fire in the distance, but guess that it's likely a distance away.

- Tyreese waits with Lizzie and Judith while Carol and Mika go searching for supplies. Like in the other sneak peek we saw, Tyreese spots a walker in the distance, stumbling on the tracks and approaches it.

The walker trips on the tracks, losing its legs. When Tyreese goes to kill the walker, Lizzie begs him to stop, saying that sometimes they don't have to kill the walkers.

- While Carol and Mika are supply searching, they discuss Sophia. Carol tells her that it's not just walkers Mika has to be prepared for, it's people too, and there may come a time when she'd have to kill someone. Mika says she can't, that she'll just run. Carol tells Mika that Sophia ran too, but it wasn't enough.

- Carol and Mika discover a house in a grove. It's surrounded by nuts, fruit, and a small fence. The group decides to take shelter here. While Tyreese and Carol clear the house, the girls keep guard outside with Judith. They are attacked by a walker, but Mika shoots it. The adults come running out and comfort a hysterical Lizzie. As the group spends time at this new house in the grove, Tyreese suggest that maybe they could just stay here and not continue on to Sanctuary.

- While out, Mika sees the black smoke of a fire in the distance, telling Carol that the fire must still be burning. If it was out, the smoke would be white. They try to shoot a deer, but Mika can't do it. We then see the same opening scene of Lizzie playing tag with the walker, but it no longer has the dream-like quality. It's real and Carol is boiling water and looking outside to the garden when she spots Lizzie with the walker. Carol rushes out and kills it. Lizzie once again goes hysterical, declaring that killing a walker is the same as killing a person and that the walker just wanted to play with her. Carol and Tyreese are shocked.

- Later, Mika discovers Lizzie back on the tracks with the walker that lost its legs and sees Lizzie feeding the walker a rat. Lizzie tells Mika that she's been thinking about letting the walker bite her so she can be just like them. Walkers, blackened from the fire, interrupt the sisters and the girls run.

They hurry back to the house and through the fence, but Mika gets stuck. She's almost bitten, but the group saves her and the walkers are killed. Carol compliments Lizzie for protecting the group and killing walkers.


- Tyreese and Carol walk together and discuss this new world. Tyreese tells Carol he's been having dreams about Karen and that he thinks that the world is haunted now. Carol tells him that the dead are all with them now and make them who they are. When Tyreese and Carol return from their walk, they discover Lizzie, standing there with a bloodied knife and hands and Mika, dead on the ground behind her. Judith is alive, crawling on a blanket. Lizzie tells them that she was just making Mika into a walker and Judith was next.

- Tyreese and Carol try to get the knife from Lizzie, but she pulls out a gun and makes them promise to wait and let Mika turn. Carol agrees, tying Mika up, and then sends Lizzie inside with Tyreese and Judith. After they leave, Carol breaks down. Later that night, Tyreese and Carol talk about what they need to do. Tyreese tells Carol that he found a shoebox full of mice and that Lizzie was feeding the walkers at the prison, too. He also thinks that Lizzie killed Karen. Carol disagrees, saying that if Lizzie had, she would've let Karen turn.

- Tyreese and Carol finally decide that Lizzie can't be around people and both understand what that will entail. In the morning, as Tyreese watches from the window, Carol and Lizzie walk out to the garden. In the distance, the smoke from the fire is white now. Lizzie thinks that Carol is upset at her for pulling the gun the day before, but Carol assures her that she isn't. Lizzie cries. Carol, remembering Mika's words to Lizzie when their father had died, tells her to look at the flowers. As Lizzie looks away, Carol draws her gun and shoots her. Tyreese continues to watch from the window as Carol breaks down again.

- The sisters are buried beside the dead children of this house in the grove.

- That night, Carol pushes the gun across the table to Tyreese and tells him that she'd killed Karen in an effort to protect her people. Tyreese puts his hand on the gun, gripping it, and Carol tells him to do what he has to do. Eventually, he asks Carol if it was quick and she says it was. He then tells her that he forgives her, but won't forget. The dead are part of who they are now.

- They decide they can't stay at the grove any longer. The next day, they leave, passing the graves, passing the walker still trapped on the tracks, and continue on the path to Sanctuary. As they leave, we hear a voiceover of Carol and one of her lessons to the children during their knife class.
End of Episode.
 
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