Ontariobear
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Most Top 40 radio - what has happened to music in this decade?
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Soulja Boy- Crank that.........OH GOD WHAT A HORRIBLE SONG
Soulja Boy- Crank that.........OH GOD WHAT A HORRIBLE SONG
>>>Rap is not even music, its one guy at a mixing board one guy at a switch board and a guy at a mic creating beats - taking no musical talent what so ever!!!!!! its shit!!!
But life's too short to hate, huh?
We had a whole thread on this, but it bears repeating, especially for you, since you're supposed to be entering the commercial music field very soon.
When Elvis first appeared on the scene, he was widely derided by the tastemakers of the day as being "a country hick trying to sound like a Negro". By the standards of the day (Doris Day, Perry Como), he was this talentless hack.
When the Beatles first appeared on the scene, they were criticized for being this wild, long-haired, untamed freak show. By the standards of the day (Bobby Vinton, Lesley Gore), they were loud annoying screamers.
When Nirvana first appeared on the scene, they were criticized for being nothing more than talentless tuneless punks. By the standards of the day (Janet Jackson, Milli Vanilli), they were too loud and too harsh.
For whatever reason, in all three cases, the public didn't care and stuck with them.
The problem in all three cases is that people started erecting (false) barriers. They believe that "good music sounds like THIS" and anything that doesn't must not be good music. But see, there IS no one good standard by which to judge music. One of the reasons the three artists listed above are so widely praised now is that they helped us remember that. They helped tear down some of the artificial barriers that had been erected.
Rap music has a long, interesting (to me) history, from the jazz poets of the 60s and 70s, through the experimental 80s ("Rapper's Delight", Run DMC), through the grittier 90s (NWA) to the present day. Its use of heavy beats, sampling, and minimal music backing all have rationales and histories. I'm not a fan of most of it, to be honest, but that's not surprising - I'm over 30 and from the suburbs, and most hip-hop is aimed squarely at the young folks in the cities. But just because it's not my cup of tea doesn't mean I think it sucks. I'm not going to apply my standards of what constitutes "good music" to a different genre.
No musical talent whatsoever? Well, I don't know about your definiton of "musical", but if they're all such talentless hacks, next time there's an MC battle in your hometown, why don't you jump on stage and claim the $500? You know, since it requires so little talent? It actually takes a LOT of talent to "bust a rhyme" for over three minutes, and to use found sounds and beatboxes to make beats that are both spartan (can't be too complex - it'd detract from the show) AND maintain listener interest. It may be debatable how "musical" these talents are, but it certainly does take talent.
Perhaps there IS more pure musical talent in an average rock band then there is in an average rap ensemble. But so what? There's tons more musical talent in a symphony orchestra than there is in an average rock band. That doesn't make the orchestra "real music" and the rock band "crap".
I say all this mainly because I really think you should know, but also because, if memory serves, you're about to have an album out. With any luck, the album will do well. When that happens, there's gonna be various media outlets interviewing you. If and when that happens, if you let loose with a comment like the one above, it may negatively impact your career severely before it even gets going. There's nothing wrong with not liking rap music, or saying so. But to justify your dislike with comments like "it takes no talent" displays a certain ignorance. It's the sort of quote that'll be plucked out from a longer interview, and used again and again to show what kind of person you are.
Is that "fair"? I don't know, really, but it doesn't matter. We're busy people, and we live by the soundbite. And the media has papers and magazines to sell. "LifeIsAmazing Sings Nice Songs" won't sell papers. "LifeIsAmazing Calls Rappers 'Talentless'" will.
So get your head on straight. Be aware that from here on out, any sentence you say in public might be plucked out and used by itself. It won't matter if it was funny in context, or wasn't precisely what you meant - it can and WILL happen. Careers are made and broken by such casual comments. If you don't believe me, ask Elvis Costello what he thinks of Ray Charles.
Lex
ALL RAP MUSIC THIS YEAR NEEDS TO BE BURNED AND FORGOTTEN!!!!!
Rap is not even music, its one guy at a mixing board one guy at a switch board and a guy at a mic creating beats - taking no musical talent what so ever!!!!!! its shit!!!
And Mika....ew he needs to go away.
"Just Fine" by Mary J Blige. Horrible, horrible, song.
