This Forum is full of hate

[kidwithathorn]

I have been fighting this fight for some time now and am in complete agreement with you. This is not an inclusive group, it is more like a cult, wherein one absolutely MUST think, act, look just like everyone else, or you are rejected and verbally abused. It is so hypocritical of a group that then runs around demanding their "rights" while trampling over and disrespecting the rights of others.

It makes me sick!

I'm sorry, but I pride myself on being different and I haven't been rejected or verbally abused.

Also, I don't disrespect anyone unless I have a very good reason to do so.

So I don't know where you get off saying that EVERYONE does this shit, when a lot of people don't, but you REALLY need to come of your high horse now.

 

[Chalchalero]

I'm sorry, but that's not the general thing on jub (although there are people like that). It seems like jamesdude is a person who incorporates insults into his opinions, so I can see why people would go at him for it.

There are going to be people who don't agree with your opinion and dislike it. That's life. And no group of people, what so ever, is excluded from having racist/prejudice/ignorant thinking.

Quite so. But it is religion upon which so many seem united and unequivocally hateful towards.

I have no problem with people who wish to be atheist or whatever their belief system might entail. I believe in live and let live.

Here, however, that is not possible. People are not allowed to have religious beliefs and if they do then they are abused and belittled. There is no respect for people's beliefs, and it is a policy which is so accepted, there is no policy against it here.

If I were to tell someone they were stupid for supporting Hillary Clinton, I would get a PM from a Mod telling me that calling that person names is not acceptable and that my post had been removed. But people can post threads calling religious people all sorts of disgusting things and the mods have nothing to say about it. It has become so prevalent that they do not even notice it I imagine.

 

[Elwood]

The same way gays shit all over Christians, it's a cycle of hate where each party justifies their hate by constantly discussing the worst cases of the other side.



Amen. It's damn near text-book spamming all the "anti-christian" threads.

Maybe it is because I have not had my second cup of coffee but I do not understand what you mean??

 

[Chalchalero]

Seems like you need to read my post too - because i'm getting REAL tired of people bitching about "oh, we all need to think alike or we're gonna get yelled at!!!".

Boo fucking hoo. That shit is not true - unless the two of you are still minors in high school, i'd refrain from that argument.

Actually it is true when it comes to religion and if you cannot accept that, then that is your problem and not mine.

 

[Telstra]

Oh hell yeah, and there's plenty of "family" in church. Who do you think has the choir sounding so tight??

no, you go to the one with alot of uni students .

 

[EvilForce]

It is so hypocritical of a group that then runs around demanding their "rights" while trampling over and disrespecting the rights of others.

It makes me sick!

Which of your "rights" is being "trampled" on? Please, enlighten us.

 

[Chalchalero]

I'm sorry, but I pride myself on being different and I haven't been rejected or verbally abused.

Also, I don't disrespect anyone unless I have a very good reason to do so.

So I don't know where you get off saying that EVERYONE does this shit, when a lot of people don't, but you REALLY need to come of your high horse now.

I am noticing alot of people getting defensive here...perhaps I struck a nerve?

Good...Now you know how it feels.

 

[Chalchalero]

Which of your "rights" is being "trampled" on? Please, enlighten us.

The right to have my religious beliefs. Consider yourself enlightened.

Apparently you never read some of the threads in which I have participated, but I can assure you that I am not exaggerating.

 

[kidwithathorn]

The only reason that I'm getting defensive is that I'm being put in the same category as people who DO have no respect for people who are different than them. People who HATE people who are different.

I also don't like it when people assume that I do something when I don't. Such as being; that I trash and verbally abuse someone just because that they say that they are a gay Christian.

I honestly don't care if a person is a Christian, a Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Pagan, Neo-Pagan, Wiccan, Satanist, etc.

The only time I get annoyed with people and their religions is when their trying to get me to convert to that particular religion or that their shoving it down my throat.

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This thread is going to go on for a long time.

The Mods. are just gonna have to close it or something.

This will never end.

... lol.

 

[EvilForce]

The right to have my religious beliefs. Consider yourself enlightened.

Apparently you never read some of the threads in which I have participated, but I can assure you that I am not exaggerating.

Um, and how exactly is your "right" to religious beliefs being "trampled" on here?

Is someone here at JUB preventing you from attending your place of worship?
Have you been physically threatened that you must not believe as you do?
Has the local Gay Union Card Carrying Members given you a "blanket party" for speaking up about your beliefs?

Um....yeah. Thought so. It's the "poor persecuted christian" complex that rears it's ugly head every damn time you can't force your spiel down everyone else's throats. "OMG! It's a war on Christmas because some non-Christian doesn't want tax payer dollars spent on a Jesus nativity scene! Someone call Bill O'Reilly!"

 

[Chalchalero]

Um, and how exactly is your "right" to religious beliefs being "trampled" on here?

Is someone here at JUB preventing you from attending your place of worship?
Have you been physically threatened that you must not believe as you do?
Has the local Gay Union Card Carrying Members given you a "blanket party" for speaking up about your beliefs?

Um....yeah. Thought so. It's the "poor persecuted christian" complex that rears it's ugly head every damn time you can't force your spiel down everyone else's throats. "OMG! It's a war on Christmas because some non-Christian doesn't want tax payer dollars spent on a Jesus nativity scene! Someone call Bill O'Reilly!"

Whatever...

 

[Elwood]

These "let's discuss religion" threads mostly have only one motive: to bash religion. Questions are worded so that it's impossible to paint religion as anything less than stupid, senseless, and the arbitrator of hate. Anybody who suggests that there are pro-gay Christians are met with MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE examples of Christian extremists. Anyone who mentions peaceful Muslims is met with MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE examples of crazy terrorists. And this is thread after thread after thread bashing these religions and anyone who follows them. Spam.



I'm contemplating rounding up a few members to bring this to the attention of the mods because its getting to the point that you can't possibly feel welcome if you're religious at all on this site, every fucking day there's 5 new threads about "this crazy muslim" or "why Christianity is stupid." People spend more time bashing other people's beliefs (along with body size, skin color, age, and a host of other things) than they spend discussing what they like. This site is becoming a platform for negativity and anyone who oppposes gets called names and put on ignore.

First of all this is not a let's discuss religion thread. I asked a simple question that is all. I have never even been to the religion and spirituality forum on this board and I never will. And for the record I may be mistaken but I think this is the first time I have ever posted on a thread about the crazy christians so please refrain from calling my opinion spam.
Have a great day
Love
kevin

 

[G-Lexington]

Is there hatred of conservatives and Christians on this site? Oh, hell, yes.

Is some of it knee-jerk? You bet.

But then again, I've never seen a gay guy in a T-shirt that read "Fags Hate God".

Lex

 

[spooger]

i must remind myself that there is a great difference between religion and spirituality....many "religious" people lack any real spirituality at all

i must also remember that my relationship with God is a most personal relationship and has very little or nothing to do with religious doctrine

THAT is how i can be gay and Christian at the same time....my relationship with God is personal and has nothing to do with religious doctrine....i say again

now....if only "religious" people would practice the same philosophy, but of course they don't.....nor do people with conservative political opinion

do you REALLY believe that the majority of people who object to gay people or gay marriage do so because of religious conviction?....i don't think so...

there are many thick headed rednecks and "educated" conservatives out there who haven't stepped foot in a church in half-a-lifetime or spent a minute in real spiritual reflection who would kick us in the balls, given the chance

so...IMHO...it's not just conservative Christians who get jamesdude and others (myself) so riled up...it's ignorant & intolerant people....it's just easier to see and target the ones who publicly demonstrate their ire for gay people....fundamentalists of all ilk: Christians, Muslims, Jews, rednecks, ....the list is endless

i have found that the best policy in life is to try to understand other points of view and be judicious about when and where to voice my own.....and that single dimensional people are to be avoided...whether gay or straight....christian or atheist....republican or democrat....country or rock-and-roll....

single-minded people are usually boring and best avoided...unless, of course, they are in charge....then they should be confronted for their ignorance and intolerance

 

[EvilForce]

Whatever...

LOL

As usual, when called on something and asked to "put up", the conservative christian tucks tail and runs.

Your "rights" have not been "trampled" at all! You have just as much right to voice your opinion on your choice of religion as everyone else here does. But when faced with being in the minority view, you want to claim it as "hate" rather than free speech. You want to tout your religion as being something to respect but can't defend your position. Perhaps it's time you re-evaluate some of your beliefs.

 

[Chalchalero]

It's true how? Give me an example on a thread that was started - with no links to a story about the church, or a religious teacher, or a person using religion to influence/harm others - that just solely bashes religion.

It seems to be YOUR problem, because as far as i see, no one is bashing people that HAVE religion - they are protesting the churches' attacks on US.

If you don't see that, and instead elect to be blind, so be it. But you can't be blind, and THEN complain - that shit doesn't fly with me.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216900

This particular thread was started specifically to attack my beliefs, and I do not care how many times the person who started it decides to lie and insist that was not his intention.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197602

This thread, while asking about people's views on religion quickly turned into a religion bashing thread.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=197602

This thread turned into a Chalchalero bashing thread because I foolishly stated something that someone disagreed with - OMG!

There are others if you care to search for them. But I have made my point.

A thread does not have to be created to bash religion. It sometimes very easily becomes one, however.

And no, it is not only my problem, as there are numerous people here who bash religion. If you choose not to see that then that is your prerogative, but do not then come and make claims that have no basis in truth.

Try reading the threads in the Religion section and tell me again that no one is bashing religion and the people who have religious beliefs. Try reading just the threads I cited for you. Try reading the thread which was created to imply that religious beliefs equal no sense of morality.

Wake up, already! Do not attempt to debunk what I am saying until you get your facts straight.

 

[kidwithathorn]

I really hope that those threads were deleted.

I really do.

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If you do not like a religion and the way it acts. Get a new one. Find a new one. MAKE a new one.

Seriously, there is no reason to bitch about it.

Just stop caring about so much about it.

 

[Chalchalero]

LOL

As usual, when called on something and asked to "put up", the conservative christian tucks tail and runs.

Your "rights" have not been "trampled" at all! You have just as much right to voice your opinion on your choice of religion as everyone else here does. But when faced with being in the minority view, you want to claim it as "hate" rather than free speech. You want to tout your religion as being something to respect but can't defend your position. Perhaps it's time you re-evaluate some of your beliefs.

You are attempting to bait me into a stupid argument that makes no sense and I will not fall for it. My point was understood by all else who read my post except you. Now what does that say about you?

Find someone else to annoy. You will get no more attention from me.

 

[Chalchalero]

I'm still trying to understand what the Conservative Christians believe.

1. Should government limit adult access to pornography (involving images of nude adults or consensual sex between adults)?

2. How do you feel about consensual sex between two adults of the same sex?

You said you wanted your question answered by conservative Christians and supporters of Stephen Harper. I am not a conservative and I do not live in Canada. Ergo, I cannot answer your question.

 

[Elwood]

Have another cup of coffee, I was talking about other people, not you. And this thread is about hate, and one of the biggest hated groups right now on JUB is religious people. I'm sure that as the summer months pass along the tide might shift to fat people since everybody's wearing less clothes and going to the beach, but for right now the popular threads are: Here's a link to a story about an anti-gay Christian group, let's bash Christianity.

Well if the link is to an anti-gay christian group, that is who people are bashing no? Do you not think these anti-gay christian groups should be bashed? The problem with organized religion is they try and force their opinion on everyone. I come from a catholic family and when I was still married and struggling with my sexuality, I happened to go to my nephews christening, a private ceremony amongst a few family's who happened to be having their children christened. What did the priest decide to talk about? Gay people and what an abomination we were, and then proceeded to pass out a pamphlet on how to stop gay marriage in Canada.
Anyways I am sort of getting off topic

Oh yeah I am fat as well!!!