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This guy has a real attitude problem

I actually thought he would have a few valid points if it weren't for his incdredulous self loathing. There are hyper feminine guys out there that do have strange "crap pointy hair" but it's theirs lives and they're free to live them as they see fit. He would probably come under the label of "straight acting gay man" but the point is, he has to act really REALLY hard to come across as straight. I think that's the reason why he's so pissed with the fem guys as they're just being themselves. One thing he obviously doesn't feel secure enough to do himself. Bless.
 
thats where I think you' re wrong... He is being himself... There is no self loathing ... jeez anytime someone disagrees with the way the nelly fags act its automatically self loathing with you people... he's being himself more so than those hyper fags that are ALL TRYING TO BE THE SAME
 
thats where I think you' re wrong... He is being himself... There is no self loathing ... jeez anytime someone disagrees with the way the nelly fags act its automatically self loathing with you people... he's being himself more so than those hyper fags that are ALL TRYING TO BE THE SAME

If he were truly being himself and happy in his own skin he wouldn't feel the need to point out the differences between himself and the more feminine guys around him. He'd accept that there are differences in us all and move on instead of going out of his way creating an actual fucking video of his dislikes! What a wanker.
 
I couldn't even stand his voice in the first 10 seconds and turned it off.

And, I usually think accents are hot.

What an asshole!
 
Oh my.

Please, give me a break. I'm so sick of the shame/hate game.

Boring. I'd much rather hang out in a room full of Neo-Nazis than listen to this crap.

If I wanted to feel worthless because I lisp or have "traingle hair", I'd join a baptist church.
 
FallenGod, three things:

1) People who tear other people down are not nice people, they are not good people, and they do not deserve defense. People who have overinflated egos combined with a very low sense of self-esteem (self-loathing) tend to tear others down simply in order to elevate themselves. These people he's attacking did nothing to him, they're just doing their own thing. It's none of his business how they do their hair or smile or dress.

2) He is neither individualistic nor honorable. I've seen hundreds and thousands of angry little men just like him, right down to the army-green thermal tee and the scruffy beardlet. He's trying just as hard to be like someone else, but the someone else he's trying to be like are those angry punks who are of absolutely no use to anyone, not even themselves. They are nothing but whirlwinds of negative energy and should be supressed. And considering how strongly I believe in individual liberties, that's saying something.

3) None of the people in those pictures are giving him or you a "bad name." People who make judgements about you based on the behavior of other people, people you don't even know, are ignorant assholes and should also be supressed.

I'll be good and goddamned before I'll allow some ill-groomed and poorly-dressed wank to tell me how to wear my hair or how to smile in a picture or how to dress just because he think it's reflecting poorly on him. Who the hell does he think he is?
 
much like all the guys that he was critiquing......

all the same....same hair ...same glasses... same attitude....

this kid is an individual and in the gay community there is no room for individuality... as evidensed by this thread....

Look around this forum no one is the same, you see all different men in all walks of life. They are individuals, individuals aren't whinny bitches who take pride in how much better they are then other faggots. They are those who are themselves no matter what that's true individuality. There is room for individuality in the gay community, there isn't for bitter bitches who only complain about those that are different.
 
unfortunately I'm like him ... and I am NOT a self hating homo.... I have been in his situation... I have been there first hand... I know exactly what he is talking about... I tried the whole camp glam thing and it didn't work for me I felt too much like something I wasn't .... then I come on here and I listen to people who have disenting views similiar to mine get hit with the ever hateful "self-loathing" label and it peeves me off... he was actually hit on by each of these guys... its not his style and he's demonstrating why.... Each and every one of those guys in that montage was a duplicate of the other... trying too hard to fit in with the "in" crowd amongst the gay community... all cookie cutter and clones.... He made a message demonstrating how they all try too hard to be the same giving examples as to wha are stereotypical gay traits... traits he doesn't share with them.... and he is indignant... I myself do not shop at abercrombie or hollister... I have a mohawk... I am not a bear or a twink or a jock I am myself ... and so is he... unfortunately when he tries to make a demonstration as to all these guys looking exactly the same we as a community try to silence him with that derogatory label... displaying how we as a community do not embrace differences and are forced to adhere to the same said self hating by going along with the crowd to fit in.....
 
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I thought the guy was quite funny. He is surely a gay guy.... I don't think he means much of what he says on the clip.
Tongue in cheek is what I'd say he was doing.
 
I woudlnt' call this guy a "self loather."

I'd call him an dweeb, but not a Self-loather.

This is one of those guys who just so desperate to prove that he's not as gay as other guys by ripping them down. This whole video shows a really deep seeded homophobia and yes, a bit of a personal issue.

that whole "Look how gay these guys are... I'm not like that so I'm better than they are" thing is where I was at one point.

we all go through it in one way or another and we all grow out of it. He will too.
 
He's not critiquing, he's not being witty, he's just slamming others so he can feel better about himself. He's pathetic.
 
theFallenGod's taken the words out of my mouth. There is a difference between a real person and a superficial one. No I don't think guys go in on it with the intention of being a "cookie cutter cute gay boy", maybe they're just trying to blend into some group, meh doesnt matter.

The point is that it was funny and poked some holes/fun at a stereotype many of us live up to.

I don't hate the guys with the triangular hair, or who do all their shopping at A & F and A/E. But I do really dislike and pity anyone who lives their life trying to fit into a mold, especially one that's so overused. I work in a restaurant that seems to be popular with the gay crowd here in town, and I swear, at least half the noticably gay guys who waltze through have the same hair, clothes, personalities, and types of friends.
 
...The point is that it was funny and poked some holes/fun at a stereotype many of us live up to.

I don't hate the guys with the triangular hair, or who do all their shopping at A & F and A/E. But I do really dislike and pity anyone who lives their life trying to fit into a mold, especially one that's so overused. I work in a restaurant that seems to be popular with the gay crowd here in town, and I swear, at least half the noticably gay guys who waltze through have the same hair, clothes, personalities, and types of friends.
Stand outside any gay bar/club in the UK and you will see every single one of those guys in the vid going inside. I have always found it 'amusing' that many gay men comment on how they hated being in the closet because they had to conform to so many 'straight rules' in regard to behaviour, fashion, music etc, and then come out of the closet and intentionally conform to another set of rules with regard to behaviour, fashion, music etc.

At the risk of getting flamed, a good few of these people are often the ones that then turn aound with a shocked look on their face and scream "How did you know I was gay?"

He could easily have done a video using straight boys which we'd have all agreed was 'hilarious'. We're only offended because it is one of our own that is making fun of our own stereotypes. Personally, I LOVE the diversity of the gay community and all that it has to offer. I find the interaction of the different groups within it fascinating (and hilarious sometimes) to watch.

I wouldn't necessarily say he was self-loathing, I'd be more inclined to use the phrase 'Counter-Queer'.
 
How do you choose your hairstyle? How do you choose your clothing? How do you choose the way you smile for a camera?

If someone makes the same choices as a lot of other people, how can you be sure he's doing it in order to conform and fit in? How do you know that he doesn't really like that look? How can you judge a person's motives?

Do thousands of gay guys watch and discuss Desperate Housewives just because everyone else does it, or do they watch it because it's a really good show? Do thousands of gay guys wear Abercombie & Fitch because they feel it's necessary in order to blend into a crowd, or did they fall for the incredibly clever sex-laden marketing, the same as all the straight guys and girls who wear A&F? Or, could it possibly be, gasp, they like those clothes because they're comfy and funky and look like they've been in use for twenty years?

I know that a lot of people do wear things in order to conform: conformity is a very comfortable life-style. It doesn't require a lot of thought and one's popularity is almost guaranteed among other conformists. But how do I know that someone with Cher on his iPod and Diesel on his gym-pumped ass is conforming to a preconceived notion of gay, or if he's doing what he likes and it just happens to be popular?

I don't know, and I can't know, until I know that person. Making blanket judgements about a person's motives and personality based entirely on a surface perception, be it skin-color or clothing brand, is plain simple bigotry. If you judge one person based on your perception of vaguely similar traits in other people, you're prejudiced.

To me, a person is about actions, not about surfaces. A man is measured by the words he uses, the actions he takes, and the effect he has on the world around him; if these are positive, he is a good man, if they are negative, he's not. And it can only be weighed on a person-by-person basis, you can't come to such a decision based on someone's shoes and haircut.

I can't really judge the young man in the video because, honestly, I stopped watching it after about forty seconds because he got on my nerves. I don't really know if he's self-loathing or not (he has several of the hallmarks, but I shouldn't judge a book by its cover), but I do know that he's a negative person, and that makes me think he's not a good person.

And I hope when he grows up and realizes that we are all individuals with our own hopes and needs, just like him, that he'll be able to add a little more kindness to the world instead of adding to its already overabundant supply of ugliness.
 
I read his myspace profile and like me he lives in Brighton. He and I had better not cross paths or I'll impale him with my triangular haired, A & F wearing friend!

:twisted: (*k*)


:jab:


**wars**
 
After seeing that second video I just feel nothing but pity for him.

He's obviously a very sad guy who feels the need to spend his time ripping everyone else in the world apart.
 
omg. This guys been on a mainstream tv programme here in the UK just moaning and whinging about anything and everything!
 
In polite parlance ' He is one nasty little fuck'. I for one am sick to death of every mean-minded homo bitch lashing out at everyone they think has tried to come onto them (or has more likely rejected him). It doesn't matter whether people are looking for a collective affinity; even all the anti-glams and anti-clones are probably fashioning themselves after something that cultural or corporate America is dishing up this month.

To denigrate and demean any sub-group of a minority is about as pathetic and sterile as you can get.

We need the return of Ru-Paul, Divine, Freddie Mercury, the Village People and every other flamboyant leather, chiffon denim drag homo icon that for a little while celebrated diversity instead of conformity.
 
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