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This Ryan character is a slippery weasel

He's a slippery weasel in general, you can smell it on him. I don't think half the people who are supporting him realize the affect their administration would have on them personally and people in their families, these are the ones mesmerized by the God speak. Lambs if you will, and there are many of them. But to name a few issues I don't agree with: his voucher program, his views on abortion, planned parenthood, his budget proposal, his tax preferences, his views on gay marriage...
 
TheButchQueen said:
He just stated that our "Rights come from Nature and God, not government". This is turning Evangelical.
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You might want to read the constitution, those words don't originate with Ryan.
 
Well with that said, can we really trust EITHER side in this election? Both sides seem to have people in the party that appear to be hell bent on throwing out rights and making our Democrasy into a MONARCHY with the "Elite" and "Rich" being the "Royalty" and the President the "King" (or in the case of Madame Pelosi the "Queen" by proxy). I also fear that the REAL reason Romney wound up getting the nomination was so that the Morman CHURCH can take over. MANY of the members of different "Christian" denominations appear to be salivating at the want for power and are CHOMPING to get into the White House so that time can be thrown back to pre-Henry VIII when the CHURCH made the decisions, not the people. Go ahead. Call me paranoid. It is just what I feel in my gut. And my intuition is RARELY wrong.
 
He's a liar, plain and simple....
 
TheButchQueen said:
He just stated that our "Rights come from Nature and God, not government". This is turning Evangelical.
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I hope you are kidding or maybe you are not a US Citizen.

From the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Declaration of Independence - Text Transcript
 
I realize what the constitution states, however my point is that Ryan is evangelically wrapping his agenda with God speak. If you are so familiar with the Constitution then you're also aware of the first amendment, Separation of Church and State. God doesn't make law, government does for many reasons, including to protect the oppressed from the oppressors, including gay people (well, eventually). Otherwise, According to the bible you have no rights in God's eyes and should be put to death.
 
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

As long as you are white, male, and preferably a property owner. The "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God" seem awfully restrictive in hindsight.
 
He's almost as sleazy as some of the people in CE&P.

Almost.

And as much as I hate Rep Ryan, I somehow feel I owe him an apology for associating him with the conseravtives that post in there.

Fuck that.
 
just watch and make sure he behaves....we can restrain him while i seed him ok:kiss:
 
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