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Time Magazines Cover This Week

Jack Springer

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Last week Time focused their cover on Mitt Romney's faith. While I'm no fan of Mormonism, it does seem there is too much focus on Romney's faith.

Here's the cover . . . .

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Here's a suggestion for the cover of Time this week . . .
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Why not talk about what Obama's faith and it's identity.




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Gee, what happened to secularism?
 
Ask the Republican Party nee The Religious Right.
 
He's a Christian, not a Muslim. Sorry.

Jack and RUSH and FOX will never accept that unless they think that Jeremiah Wright can somehow be wielded as a cudgel again.

And then Obama is Christian, but one of those angry anti-amercian christians.
 
Why not talk about what Obama's faith and it's identity.

I'm not clear on why Romney's faith has not been more of an issue. I thought evangelical Protestants (the Republican base) would object strenuously to a Mormon, but they have been silent. Evangelicals generally hate Mormons.

I do not think a presidential candidate's faith should have any bearing on his electability. I have to say that beliefs have an impact on me, however. I would have trouble voting for someone who claimed that the earth was flat, for example, or that the sun revolved about the earth.

So, I am conflicted about Romney's Mormonism. As a Mormon ex-bishop, I presume he is a believer. Which means he accepts that the native Americans were Jewish, that they arrived in the New World by crossing the Atlantic from the middle east, and that they maintained a European-style civilization here for centuries (a claim which is contradicted by 100% of the archaeological evidence). Furthermore, God lives on Planet Kolob with Mrs. God, and all good Mormons will one day be given their own planets, over which they will rule as minor gods. Women can't get into heaven unless their husbands allow it, and, once there, they will be eternally pregnant with "spirit children." Black people are the descendants of Cain, and are marked with their skin color so that they may continue to be punished for a murder that happened 5,000 years ago.

I'm not sure what to do with that. Belief is one thing. But belief in things that are demonstrably provable as false is another. And belief that is racist and misogynistic is somewhat disturbing.

I think Romney is wise not to talk about his faith. It is so far outside the boundaries of accepted thought that acknowledging it would make him appear foolish, racist, and misogynistic. And he already has enough problems.
 
^ This is the crux, isn't it?

Faith in a religion or supreme being is a private matter.

But let a politician start parading his beliefs around as the foundation of policies to govern all and everyone outside that person's belief system is in a shitload of trouble and lined up for a world of hurt.
 
Well T-Rexx's statement that "Evangelicals generally hate Mormons" I can vouch for him. Me being raised in a Southern Hard shell Baptist family we were led to believe that Mormons were not ones to believe anything they might say. But while in the Navy I had a shipmate who was Mormon and the only thing strange about him is he wouldn't drink coffee or booze. Strange!
 
The alternative to Romney is so bad that Christians have to support him. Hussein is either still steeped in Islam, or a member of Wights church of God Damn America, or more likely he is an atheist. Does anyone seriously believe hi is a believing Cristian?
 
Why not talk about Romney's religion? Is this yet another subject about him that's not supposed to be discussed?

Can't talk about his religion. Can't talk about his tenure as Massachusetts Governor. Can't talk about Romneycare. Can't talk about Bain Capital. Can't talk about his tax returns.

He sure has lots to hide.
 
The alternative to Romney is so bad that Christians have to support him. Hussein is either still steeped in Islam, or a member of Wights church of God Damn America, or more likely he is an atheist. Does anyone seriously believe hi is a believing Cristian?

Refer to my post above.

Did I call it or what?
 


Why not talk about what Obama's faith and it's identity.

Surely you're joking? Obama's faith was raked over the coals ad nauseum in 2008. In case you want to know more about Obama's religious faith, there's volumes of material on the web:

http://christianity.about.com/od/religionpolitics/p/obamafaithss.htm

http://www.usnews.com/listings/ten-obama-faith-moments/intro

http://cathleenfalsani.com/obama-on-faith-the-exclusive-interview/

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/28/obama-discusses-his-faith-im-a-christian-by-choice/
 
Why not talk about Obama's faith? Because it has been talked about when he was an unproven candidate for a president. He won that election (as he will win this one) if you recall, and has been a president for the better part of four years now. So there is no need to discuss his faith any longer. Romney is the unproven candidate now, and so his faith -featuring special guest star appearance by magic pants - is much more interesting to discuss.
 
Gee, what happened to secularism?

That's something to ask the Mormon church, jackoroe.

It's a fair question to address, Jack Springer. We could potentially elect the first Mormon President of the United States. A lot of Americans have little understanding of what a Mormon actually believes. There are many religious differences between Protestants/Catholics and Mormonism. It's fair to address.

Personally, I have no problem electing a man to office who is of a different religion than mine. There is plenty enough to criticize Romney for, than his faith. However, if there are many Americans who are basing their vote on their religious beliefs, then they need to weigh and evaluate how Mitt Romney's faith in Mormonism stacks to theirs.

I don't know what kind of Christian denomination you believe in Jack, but you sound like a religious type, and I think it's important to weigh your religious beliefs to what it means to vote for a Mormon.
 
I can vote for someone who isn't of my faith. The character of the person is much more important.

However, Mormonism has been talked about so much in this election. Black Liberation Theology -- Obama's religion was not discussed in 2008 and not in 2012 either. Why treat candidate differently.

Isn't anyone interested in what Black Liberation Theology means?
 
I can vote for someone who isn't of my faith. The character of the person is much more important.

However, Mormonism has been talked about so much in this election. Black Liberation Theology -- Obama's religion was not discussed in 2008 and not in 2012 either. Why treat candidate differently.

Isn't anyone interested in what Black Liberation Theology means?

Jack, why don't you tell us all about "Black Liberation Theology?"
 
Jack, why don't you tell us all about "Black Liberation Theology?"

I want you to be interested in what helped shape Obama's thinking and character.

If I posted info about it -- I doubt you would read it -- please google the phase.
 
I can vote for someone who isn't of my faith. The character of the person is much more important.

However, Mormonism has been talked about so much in this election. Black Liberation Theology -- Obama's religion was not discussed in 2008 and not in 2012 either. Why treat candidate differently.

Isn't anyone interested in what Black Liberation Theology means?

For those worried about the left being "bullies" (which is true perhaps for a select few)- this is PRECISELY what frustrates the hell out of me and I suspect most others. This is NOT a "difference of opinion"- this statement is DEMONSTRABLY false. Mormonism has NOT been discussed much at all relative to that which Obama's faith was questioned in 2008. Show me ANY shred of evidence that this is true... there is none... for example, the Obama campaign (nor even Priorities USA) has released a single ad focusing on Mitt's faith (nor should they btw)...

So... please show me any objective shred of evidence that Mormonism has been a bigger campaign focus in this election than Obama's faith in 2008...
 
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