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Time to Discuss the 2016 Presidential Election

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The Democratic nominee is easy: O'Malley of Maryland. He meets the democrat profile: Governor out of the blue, No Federal experience, nice smile, makes good speeches. This is enough a la Carter, Clinton, etc. Dems are suckers for such. I suspect Hillary will decide not to run.
BUT the election may turn of on a factor no one seems to be willing to discuss. O'Malley and many of the Republican candidates are Catholic, including, Jeb Bush, Rubio, Paul Ryan, Christie, perhaps others I forget.
This is more important than it would be in other years. Immigration should be a critical issue and may still be. BUT the Catholic Bishops have taken as strong position in favor of massive immigration of Latin Americans into the US and massive welfare and social programs for them. And, surprise, surprise, all the Catholic candidates favor massive immigration etc.
No politician and, indeed, no journalists seem willing to discuss this issue. Clearly, Catholics have enough votes to swing most elections. so it is a dangerous issue. Even the evangelical Protestants avoid or do not yet see the issue.
AND Protestants no longer can control the election, and many would agree with the Bishops agenda.
This makes the Republican nominee difficult to predict. My guess is that this issue will remain unspoken, but the immigration issue will give the GOP nomination to Walker. Since this is a Republican year, he will win. But I do not feel strongly at this time. I would not bet much money against O'Malley. I would bet the farm against Hillary.
 
So the Pope has a nefarious conspiracy to flood the U.S. with illegal immigrants, while simultaneously controlling the Republican pack?

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Them no-good beaner Catholics, and their no-good beaner Pope hats.



I mean just look at that thing. No beaner could possibly be planning anything good in that hat.
 
I bet he wants us to go back to a world where we all wore hats! ALL THOSE ILLEGALS ARE MILLINERS!
 
Benvolio's rabid anti-Catholicism triggers a memory of my time...say, 100 years ago...when I was reading the history of the American Revolution....

.... noting the Continental congress appointed the Catholic, Charles Carroll one of a committee of three to visit Quebec to secure the alliance of the French in the struggle for independence.

...Carroll was told very plainly, by the Canadian French that they now lived with much more freedom under the King of England, than they had under the King of France...and, as Catholics they were well aware how much they were hated by the New England Puritans...Carroll's diplomatic efforts failed...
 
I am not generally anti-Catholic. I am very specific in opposing its policy against contraception in poor overcrowded countries and its hope to solve the poverty it creates by encouraging immigration to the US, and socialist measure in the US. I have no doubt that all these Catholic candidates have been urged by their Bishops to support massive immigration.
Beyond that I wanted to point out that this may be in year in which most of the candidates and both of the nominees are Catholic. One way or another, the Catholic vote will control the election, but that issue may be too hot for anyone to touch.
 
Benvolio said:
I am not generally anti-Catholic. I am very specific in opposing its policy against contraception in poor overcrowded countries and its hope to solve the poverty it creates by encouraging immigration to the US, and socialist measure in the US. I have no doubt that all these Catholic candidates have been urged by their Bishops to support massive immigration.
Beyond that I wanted to point out that this may be in year in which most of the candidates and both of the nominees are Catholic. One way or another, the Catholic vote will control the election.
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Yes, yes, the Jesuits, the Jews, and the Illuminati! :D
 
Benvolio said:
I am not generally anti-Catholic. I am very specific in opposing its policy against contraception in poor overcrowded countries and its hope to solve the poverty it creates by encouraging immigration to the US, and socialist measure in the US. I have no doubt that all these Catholic candidates have been urged by their Bishops to support massive immigration.
Beyond that I wanted to point out that this may be in year in which most of the candidates and both of the nominees are Catholic. One way or another, the Catholic vote will control the election, but that issue may be too hot for anyone to touch.
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Your obsessive, compulsive anti Catholicism here does not go unnoticed.....
 
When John F. Kennedy was canvassing votes way, way back the same Republican rhetoric promised Americans that a vote for Kennedy was a vote for Rome, and the pope....sixty years later the Republicans are using the same, tired campaign tactics....when will they ever learn?
 
kallipolis said:
When John F. Kennedy was canvassing votes way, way back the same Republican rhetoric promised Americans that a vote for Kennedy was a vote for Rome, and the pope....sixty years later the Republicans are using the same, tired campaign tactics....when will they ever learn?
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The difference is that the Catholic candidates today are faithfully following the Bishops' specific wishes for US policy, even though it is contrary to the wishes of Republicans, harmful to the country, to Americans, and ultimately destructive of their party, our democracy, and our economy. JFK promised not to follow his church's demands.
 
Benvolio said:
The difference is that the Catholic candidates today are faithfully following the Bishops' specific wishes for US policy, even though it is contrary to the wishes of Republicans, harmful to the country, to Americans, and ultimately destructive of their party, our democracy, and our economy. JFK promised not to follow his church's demands.
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No they are not....since Humane Vitae 1968 it has been clear that faithful Catholics do not follow official church policy on not using artificial birth control methods.....otherwise, your comments are ignorant, generalised anti Catholic rhetoric of no consequence except, to demonise Catholics...

Please note that I do not follow a religion...but I am deeply spiritual...and well versed in the belief structures of world religions.
 
kallipolis said:
No they are not....since Humane Vitae 1968 it has been clear that faithful Catholics do not follow official church policy on not using artificial birth control methods.....otherwise, your comments are ignorant, generalised anti Catholic rhetoric of no consequence except, to demonise Catholics...

Please note that I do not follow a religion...but I am deeply spiritual...and well versed in the belief structures of world religions.
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I have not demonized. I have criticized specific policies. Many in first world countries do not follow the church, but the poor in third world are less educated.
 
kallipolis said:
When John F. Kennedy was canvassing votes way, way back the same Republican rhetoric promised Americans that a vote for Kennedy was a vote for Rome, and the pope....sixty years later the Republicans are using the same, tired campaign tactics....when will they ever learn?
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No surprise considering that, despite all we have come to know about the past two presidential elections, republicans haven’t learned anything to help their cause. They are still using their same lame, tired social wedge issues to attempt a win in 2016...like fanning the flames of gay hatred, (see Huckabee’s recent speech stating that gays will not be happy until they start burning down all the churches...his response to the Indiana fiasco).
 
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