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To all the closeted guys who have not come out to their families....

goodbyemountainman

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How do you do it? How do you keep building up your life, emotionally, intellectually and socially without thinking too much about your coming out process? What makes you put that elephant aside and motivate you to be happy? I know being in the closeted means you will never be fully happy. But it's become too big of a problem for me that it prevents me from doing anything I should do right now: work, study, making friends or enjoy life...All I do is lock myself up and do all the vanity things to ignore the depression. I have said to myself that I will never know what will happen tomorrow, so don't think too much about it. But this fucking struggle is too strong and it's consuming almost every bits of my life. I spends hours and hours thinking about it and I cannot take shit anymore!!!!!! Just tell me how I can get up, keep walking even with a rock behind my back?????
 
How do you do it? How do you keep building up your life, emotionally, intellectually and socially without thinking too much about your coming out process? What makes you put that elephant aside and motivate you to be happy? I know being in the closeted means you will never be fully happy. But it's become too big of a problem for me that it prevents me from doing anything I should do right now: work, study, making friends or enjoy life...All I do is lock myself up and do all the vanity things to ignore the depression. I have said to myself that I will never know what will happen tomorrow, so don't think too much about it. But this fucking struggle is too strong and it's consuming almost every bits of my life. I spends hours and hours thinking about it and I cannot take shit anymore!!!!!! Just tell me how I can get up, keep walking even with a rock behind my back?????

Holy cow man...
I've read stuff from you in the past here... we've written back and forth once or twice..
Man, don't let this all get to you too quickly.

You will be fine my friend... man, you are young, and going through school and perhaps things with family..
Just make friends, keep up with school... you will be fine.
Not sure how it is where you live.... not sure if there is a gay society there..
just keep writing on jub man... get to know people here..
and write to me via pm if you want to... you know how to find me there..

You have to figure out if you want to just have sex with a guy, or want to date and find a mate... it's all tough man... much as it is with guys and girls... only a bit tougher..
but you will make it man.. I can promise you that..
hey, I'm a friend here..
later.
 
It is hard living in the closet, but I live with the hope that one day I'll be strong enough to tell my family. Remember that your sexuality does not define you and you shouldn't feel like you have to come out if you're not ready.
 
Counseling does help, it helps a lot.

I've been going since April 2008 (used to be once a week for the last two years and this year it's every fortnight) and in all honesty I don't get what's so embarrassing about seeing a therapist? My family thinks the worst thing you can ever do is ask for help when it's the exact opposite.

Talking to people about it over the internet helps but to truly get peace of mind especially when you have a lot of internal conflict about your sexuality I'd advise seeing a therapist/getting CBT.

It does wonders to your sanity and how you approach life, I'm talking from experience. :)

It'll take time, but just remember that it will happen and one day you'll wake up and feel happy to be in your own skin! (*8*)

Edit: Working out also helps too with the depression.
 
If you don't feel like you're ready to come out...
If you don't want to come out...
If you feel nobody has any right to know your sexuality...

...then don't tell them.

It's really that easy.

Lex
 
Well, maybe it's not exactly about "the coming out" part. Lex, you sounds exactly like my therapist. She told me that when the right time comes, I will know what to do. But maybe I haven't been able to take that advice (fuck me, I know). I am so envious of other gay people I know. Not all of them are out, but lots of them still have friend. Lots of them are very comfortable with their own skin and being happy, confident, lovable people. I'm on the opposite side: no social life, no friend, no one to love and think about. I guess since I have no life, "being gay" is the only thing I have on my mind right now.
 
^ I was in the same position you're in right now.

Hell I'm still in the same boat except I'm doing something about it this time around. It took me three years to pull myself out of the shit hole I created for myself and since February the 15th of this year I've never looked back.

Your therapist is right, you'll know you're ready when the time comes. I know it's hard to hear especially at a point in life where you think nothing's going to change but believe that the day will come where you feel 'at peace' with yourself.
 
Well, maybe it's not exactly about "the coming out" part. Lex, you sounds exactly like my therapist. She told me that when the right time comes, I will know what to do. But maybe I haven't been able to take that advice (fuck me, I know). I am so envious of other gay people I know. Not all of them are out, but lots of them still have friend. Lots of them are very comfortable with their own skin and being happy, confident, lovable people. I'm on the opposite side: no social life, no friend, no one to love and think about. I guess since I have no life, "being gay" is the only thing I have on my mind right now.
Well, being frustrated/pissed off could be the spark that you require to come out.

Sometimes anger (at yourself as much as at society) is what you need to get the balls to come out.

I think you are well on your journey! (*8*)
 
Well, if you DON'T have any friends or social life, what do you have to lose by coming out? Dylan sang "When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose." If you start meeting people as an already-out gay man (even if it means you're only out to THEM), you won't have to worry about if they'll reject you when they find out later on. And you'll find that most of them don't give a flying rat's ass. :)

Lex
 
^ Lex got there first.

Go out.

Be a homo.

Get laid.

Relax.
 
Lex, I did. I did go out and meet new people. At bar, at party. But I don't belong there at all. I came in as an zero, a sober zero. And people don't find a zero interesting at all. So I keep being a zero, even I have tried to start up the conversation. I am completely out to these people, and they still don't want to talk with me. Remember those miserable losers sit at the conner of the gay bar that no one bothers to come up to? Yeah, that's me.

I have some other people to hang out with, but I wouldn't call them friend. I still have to watch my manner while talking to them, since they are not close enough. Some I can be more relaxed with. But it always about me trying to catch up with their speed. If I didn't bother to call them, they will probably shake me off completely.
 
You know, when the time is right, naturally you would just blurt it out without you even knowing. That's what happen to me with my friends. I'm now on the verge to tell my family but the time is not right yet. Its at the tip of my tongue but its not coming out.

When the time is right, it would come naturally.
 
Ok.

Snap out of this.

You're not a zero. No one is a zero.

I'll bet though that you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy too serious/solemn.

Do you smile when you are in a bar or club? Or do you look uncomfortable and/or scared shitless?

Do you come off as the kind of person who can have a good time on their own or with others?

When you talk to people, do you have anything to start with that engages them right from the outset?

Do you ever just pick up a round of drinks for your buds?

Do you find that you tend to argue points in a conversation?

Are you a good listener. Have you ever said to someone 'that sounds really interesting,tell me more?'

Or do you just dead-end conversations?

So relax. Even around the people you're trying to cultivate as friends. I suspect that you present yourself as uncomfortable and guarded with them too.
 
I'm Bi. I don't understand why people have a problem with not letting everyone know your sexuality because: ITS NO ONES BUSINESS. I have a HUGE family, and no one in my family knows a thing...and will EVER...know.

i would NEVER bring my b/f around them because of my Christian morals and beliefs.

That's the unhappiest closet in the world.
 
That's the unhappiest closet in the world.

I know, his “Christian Morals,” forbid him from letting anyone know, but they don’t forbid him the sleeping with men thing. Go figure.

Evidently it's not immoral to have a boyfriend and all that gay monkey sex - it's just immoral if someone else finds out.




To the OP:

I’m going to take somewhat of a harder line with you than some of the others. What you’re doing is escapism. You’re running away from your problem. Stop it. Grab your scrotum and face down your fear. Yes that’s hard, and yes that’s scary, but if you don’t you’ll let this thing rule you forever.

Sit in your house, say out loud:

I’m a gay man, that’s a good thing, that’s me, and it’s my life, my terms, my decisions, I refuse to hide anymore, and fuck anyone who doesn’t like it.

Keep repeating that to yourself until you can get through it without cringing in your head – until you can accept it.

Get angry if you have to, at all the things keeping you stagnant, all those things everyone else gets, but you can't have in your closet, all the deceptions, the loneliness, the distance the closet requires you keep between you and everyone else in order to preserve the lie.

If you want to be happy with yourself you need a clean break – drop the fucking “burden,” then go build an honest foundation for your life.

How? Start with yourself, repeat the above over and over and over. It all starts with you, and in the end, you will come out because of you. The only people who keep us in our closets are ourselves.



OK, depression – and yes a lot of closeted gay men are depressed. Why? You already know why, you outlined it pretty explicitly in your first post. Your depression is probably getting in the way of you making friends, people generally pick that up fast and avoid it.

No matter what some other closet cases in here might argue, lying and deceit will take a toll on your self esteem and self respect. How can you respect yourself if you aren’t honest about who you are? Not to mention living in fear like a scared child.

It’s your life, your happiness, your decision. No one can take that away from you, so you need to find a way to motivate yourself out of the paralysis and make a choice.

If that means counseling get it, if it means forcing yourself out of the house – do so. In the end, you simply decide that you’re not going to carry that burden anymore - and when you let it go, the relief you feel will feel like the world taken off your shoulders. Yes you’re scared - we were all scared, but ask yourself this, why on earth are you so attached to your “burden?” What has it done for you but break you down, perhaps you should try something else for a change.

How much of your youth do you want to waste on this? You don't get your years back, and the best argument ever for coming out and living your own life, on your own terms, are the guys who never did, who's regrets over a life lived in hiding are the only thing they ever had.
 
Any closeted guy or girl, should come out, now. I'm 26. I came out when I am 26. About 5 months ago. I regret not coming out sooner every day.

I feel like I have so much catching up to do. It's frustrating. I hate to see other people who go through the same thing as I did.
 
Well, maybe it's not exactly about "the coming out" part. Lex, you sounds exactly like my therapist. She told me that when the right time comes, I will know what to do. But maybe I haven't been able to take that advice (fuck me, I know). I am so envious of other gay people I know. Not all of them are out, but lots of them still have friend. Lots of them are very comfortable with their own skin and being happy, confident, lovable people. I'm on the opposite side: no social life, no friend, no one to love and think about. I guess since I have no life, "being gay" is the only thing I have on my mind right now.

WOW, YOU"RE IN EXACTLY THE SAME SITUATION AS ME!! Both ur 1st post and this post are my current situation.

Problem with me is, that its affecting my studies, I sit at home and cry about all the pain this brings me, and Id love to see a counciller or psychologist, but Im still financially dependent on my family so I cant without them knowing (which would defeat the point)

Anyone have any advice for me?
 
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