To the Old Perverts in the Sauna

[Level27]

When you were 18 would you want to be looking at men older than your father playing with themselves in the sauna?

You must remember, however, that, according to what he seems to be implying, he wouldn't mind these older guys if they're "hot." It's obvious that the stereotypical image of a not-in-shape body for a middle-age guy has an affect on his response to these guys silently hitting on him. It's not just about them being too old. Let's be perfectly honest, now.

When I was 18, 28 was "old." I was not ageist, either. It's just how young people see the world. I remember being 23 and having such a crush on this guy who was nine years older. I remember thinking how incredibly "weird" it was to crush on somebody so "old." LOL OLD???? He was merely 9 years older. But when you're that young you don't see it that way.

NewYork, bud, you bring up really good valid points. Some here, when they were just as young as he was, probably got annoyed at older men watching them, too. (Now that they are older, they are the ones watching young attractive men like Jizz and visually harassing them).

I for one, though, am merely referring to his insult and blatant disrespect. Calling anyone an "old pervert" is not necessary, and many would take it as just plain rude. Whilst semi-sarcastic responses like my own from earlier may not have been in the best interest of anyone (I'll admitt), many of these replies are, according to my understanding of them, really nothing more than asking him to re-consider. As you remind the older that they should remember what it was like to be a young guy with so much unwanted attention from people out of his own age group, likewise, Jizz should consider what it might be like when he has become middle-aged and young men refer to him as an "old pervert" when he ("innocently") gives so much as a peak at them.

Just my .02, as a 22-year-old college student.





edited - Although, having gone back and re-read a couple of the responses, I took note that some of the responses here are just as rude and probably won't do much to effectively and productively help the situation. While it helps portray just how insulted they may be at him, blowing the fire back is unnecessary and would just cause the blaze to live on.

 

[JNewYork]

I suppose you're right, Level.

But I just found the original post to be refreshingly honest. He's a bit scathing and elitist, but that's what's so funny about it.

 

[Lefty]

Touching?

Does that mean TOUCHING or just touching?

Isn't one of the reasons a guy goes to the gym

is to look good? Old guys looking is upsetting?

Did anyone ever try to use the sauna or steam

room in a blindfold? Maybe the old guys aren't staring,

maybe they just aren't wearing their bi-focals. Is

it not normal for a mans legs to spread a bit when he

sits? After all, that is a dick and balls down there that

like the space not a vagina or a womb that is a space.

I am an old fart (way over 28) I don't wear my glasses or

anything else in the sauna , steam bath or the spa either.

If I touch my dick or balls, it to scratch an itch, wipe off sweat

or rearrange. Want to look? well, I doubt that will give me

a social disease. So look long, look hard.... hell, even dream.

I'm not sure if Level 27 and I are buds but here we do agree.

btw, Judge not Lest ye be Judged.

 

[Level27]

I just found the original post to be refreshingly honest.

Fair enough. I saw validity in his annoyance too, even if I didn't state it directly.

He's a bit scathing and elitist, but that's what's so funny about it.

Neh, I just think he wasn't considering the other side of things was all.

Did anyone ever try to use the sauna or steam

room in a blindfold? (***applauds*** This is a good one! )

Maybe the old guys aren't staring,

maybe they just aren't wearing their bi-focals. Is

it not normal for a mans legs to spread a bit when he

sits? (I sit cross-legged!! haha ) After all, that is a dick and balls down there that

like the space not a vagina or a womb that is a space. (My dick, over time, learned to not mind the squishied position of my cross-legging. But, I'm sure that that isn't the same attitude shared by most guys, which is why they have to sit with open leg positions. lol)

I am an old fart (way over 28 ); I don't wear my glasses or

anything else in the sauna , steam bath or the spa either.

If I touch my dick or balls, it to scratch an itch, wipe off sweat

or rearrange. (I was at my school library once. It was 11:30 at night, and I was studying for my finals the next day. I innocently scratched my crotch because it was rather tickly down there. A girl who passed by and saw the 2-second "action" flailed her hands in the air with a distressed look upon her face, and then she flustered. I turned my head back to look at her in confusion, wondering, "What the hell's gotten into her? ) Want to look? well, I doubt that will give me

a social disease. So look long, look hard.... hell, even dream.

I'm not sure if Level 27 and I are buds but here we do agree. No matter how much I "disagree" or bicker with certain members on here, I still consider everyone here a family. Love knows no bounds )

btw, Judge not Lest ye be Judged.
^^^^^double^^^^^

 

[Lefty]

Cross legged? I sat cross-eyed with my ankle on the opposing knee.

In fact, now that I think about it, I have sat cross legged before. I

got slapped and was told to 'ask first 'the next time. But, that was

not in the sauna

And after careful consideration...it is better to be a harmless old pervert

than to be a dead PREvert

 

[jizzinmypants]

Nobody should masturbate in a Sauna but the disturbing trend at my University is that it is the older gentlemen exposing themselves, not the guys my age. That's why I said "Old Perverts". I actually happen to like older men also. And if they were in better shape then I might be slightly less offended but it's still inappropriate. This kind of behavior should be reserved for bathhouses.

Why are you all assuming he will be doing it himself in many years?

That is a stupid assumption, there are a very few men that are disgusting enough to perform these actions in public areas with other people around.

If you're going to use an argument to say that's it OK, do not use this one, as it has no merit whatsoever.

Thank you.

I think some are being too hard on the original poster. He's at a college gym. College. As in a place where 18-21 year old men hang out.

When you were 18 would you want to be looking at men older than your father playing with themselves in the sauna?

When I was 18, 28 was "old." I was not ageist, either. It's just how young people see the world. I remember being 23 and having such a crush on this guy who was nine years older. I remember thinking how incredibly "weird" it was to crush on somebody so "old." LOL OLD???? He was merely 9 years older. But when you're that young you don't see it that way.

Let's not condemn the original poster. He's not mean. He's not ageist. He's just young.

Thank you.

 

[bankside]

LOL I love it how "the hot guy" with the lewd come-on gets a pass, but the ugly out-of-shape oldies send us all running in our delicate petticoats wailing "OH, the Morality!!"

You know, the reason the hot guys get inappropriate in the sauna is because it works. Three guesses as to why the old guys get inappropriate in the sauna...

If anybody wants to seduce anybody else in public, it would be nice to be classy about it. A little subtlety instead of looking like a desperate perv. But it seems the biggest problem people have with it is not crossing the line of classiness but "How dare you assume my taste in men would include you! I have a reputation to think of!"

 

[Telstra]

Everyone should masturbate in the gym LOL

I think jizzinmypants wants less old unfit people in that gym so he can do some hooking up with hot guys.

 

[Lostlover]

I recently started using the Sauna at my college gym after work outs. Sadly, I have discovered that the place is being over run by older gentleman that sit naked with their legs open and touch themselves. And very few are in good shape. If you are one of these men please stop it and have some decency. Thanks.

It's not the fact that they're old that bothers me, cause I'd love to be old one day.

It's the fact that a lot of them are married, closeted and republicans that bother me.

I've written about a troll I have at the gym. Extremely effeminate, Republican and married. And then he started hitting on my boyfriend as if he'd have a chance. He looks about 7 months pregnant and has a huge scar down his chest. He's equally repulsive personality wise.

What kind of woman would marry an obviously effeminate guy? Seriously.

 

[Kyanimal]

I think this may be a generational "thing", too.

I was born in 1950, and starting in middle school, perhaps even earlier, it was MANDATORY to be naked in the locker room, showers, etc., etc., etc. We had NO choice in the matter, and there were no places to "hide"! In theory, it was to help us become more "manly", or whatever ...

Today, guys are nearly encouraged to be AFRAID of being naked! To "those Old Pervs", it's no big deal! They don't care! Really! I should know. I'm one of them!

And why, in Heaven's name, should we not enjoy the sight of a good looking young guy (provided we can see that far)? Just because we age, we don't loose our appreciation of natural beauty! If nothing else, we're jealous more than you can know ... until you reach our age, if you're that lucky, that is.

All the more reason to ... no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[harleyguykl]

Your choices are:

a) Quit going in the sauna
b) Complain to the management
c) Ignore the old perverts, listen to music on your iPod, close your eyes
d) Ask the old perverts to refrain from that while you are in there
e) Join in

f) earn some college tuition...hahaha and by tuition I mean beer money


*requisite caveat* I am merely making...or trying to make a humorous post and did not mean to offend anyone by suggesting you whore your tight little college body...probably all smooth and tan with beads of sweat glistening...umm humm sorry I was touching myself again.

 

[Seasoned]

There is nothing wrong with sitting naked in a sauna. Playing with one's self is a different matter. The locker room implies nudity, but not sexual behavior.

 

[Lefty]

Mr. 1950 hit 11,000 post here just now. WOW.

BTW Chaz..........when we (you and me) were growing up,

cleanliness was next to Godliness. Now the only thing worse

than being naked is the fucking Law Suit you can get slapped

with for lewd and lascivious behavior while taking a shower...


......

 

[Curiosity69]

Wow, there are more perverts on this site than I originally thought. Good to see some of the gay men are sensible however.

 

[Kyanimal]

Mr. 1950 hit 11,000 post here just now. WOW.

HA! Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't even notice.

BTW Chaz..........when we (you and me) were growing up,

cleanliness was next to Godliness. Now the only thing worse

than being naked is the fucking Law Suit you can get slapped

with for lewd and lascivious behavior while taking a shower...


......

Ain't that the Truth! And, that can happen even if you aren't DOING anything!

I'm not condoning lewd conduct. And, unwelcome "come ons" are simply that ... Unwelcome! And, it doesn't matter the age of the one making such moves. It's VERY "UnKewl"!!

However, I'm thinking those "Old Pervs" that may be touching themselves, if they're even aware of what they're doing, are likely just making sure it's still there! Right?

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Level27]

Jizz, babe, come on. We've already addressed your points here. All you're doing now is shouting the rhetoric louder.

Haven't you learned at least the slightest bit from any of the posters besides from NewYork and Curiosity?

Nobody should masturbate in a Sauna but the disturbing trend at my University is that it is the older gentlemen exposing themselves, not the guys my age. That's why I said "Old Perverts". I actually happen to like older men also. And if they were in better shape then I might be slightly less offended but it's still inappropriate.

The question that we raise, however, is whether or not you would have noticed its inappropriateness and, furthermore, if you would have even created this thread if these middle-age guys were hot from the start. (Would you have even thought of them as "perverts?") Again, as I said to NewYork, let's be perfectly honest here. It's not just the fact that they're not properly conducted in public: their un-attractive "not in shape" bodies (as you put it) obviously has a major affect on your response to these guys hitting on you (if they were actually hitting on you), and it is shaping your mental image of what is "appropriate" and "not appropriate", whether you like to believe this or not.

No matter how hard you try to elude this fact with the "default" point of public "indecency," ya can't, because most of us have a big hint on what your motivations are.

However, yes, it is rather un-settling for many people to flash their dicks in public. If people are doing this and it makes you feel un-comfortable at your sauna, you should bring this to the attention of the school authorities, especially if it's a big enough problem; that would be up for you to judge. You, like everyone else on campus, have the right to feel safe free from any harassment that might happen.

(Then again, going off of Lefty's point, the question still remains: are you sure by them touching themselves and whatnot that they are necessarily meaning to hit on you?)

 

[CowboyBob]

Would the OP have gone to the trouble of starting a thread if those adjusting their sweaty balls were 21 years old, handsome, muscular & masculine?

Or doesn't he want anyone exposing themselves?

 

[Willie Boy]

As a 45 year old man, I have no issue with the use of the word 'old', I take issue with the inference that once you get past a certain age you're not supposed to be sexual.

I accept that the OP probably just put his mouth in motion before his brain was in gear, but trust me - in years to come when he's sitting in a locker room touching himself up whilst some bright thing changes - the bright young thing will be looking at him as a'dirty old pervert'. Enjoy the attention while you can.

If that were the case at least one of those dirty old perverts woulda had his "mind" blown and this thread wouldn't have been started.

 

[ladave]

I'm one of those old guys too and what I find offensive about the original post has been mentioned before. It might be okay with him if the older person were decent looking. Well when I was younger I was in great shape and not too bad looking either and at the gyms here in L.A. guys were constantly sexing it up in the sauna/steamroom or wherever. Now I'm in average shape still decent looking but not what an 18 year old would be interested in. I can accept that if they can accept I have every right to be in that sauna naked too.
The playing with themself thing was funny seeing as hoe he does hint at it being okay if they were still hot. So it's ugliness that bothers him. I don't play with myself if I am in a sauna but I'm not perfect looking anymore..hopefully our young OP won't have me shot if I show up in his sauna.

 

[Lefty]

Sorry sport,

Best you can do is be a prevert.....
being a pervert takes time and experience.

Be patient
it will come soon enough.