To the Old Perverts in the Sauna

[Level27]

lefty, love, I've searched dictionary.com with no success. I've tried using my imagination with no success.

Are you going to spill what a prevert is? haha

 

[Lefty]

Well, when you are yuong like yourself, hunt neo and the O/P

for our purposes you are a PRE-vert. As you get older and possibly

less irresistable in fuckable appearance...like me, dawnie or Chaz,

you become an old PER-vert. In the JUB dictionary of course. Does

that help?

 

[Level27]

Ah, I see now! I feel smart. (Of course, I'd be smarter if that flew into my head without source of origin...)

But now, I think I'm unfortunately going to have to exclude myself from the prevert group. See now, I'm a young college student who is un-attractive and fartish-looking. And, it must be considered that Colton Ford and Michael Lucas are old farts who's slutty, whorish attractiveness send their ratings over the rooftop. What would that make us? I'm guessing a bunch of prerverts, were it?

 

[Lefty]

Really Level.

I have noticed you can be uh acerbic.
You are young, You seem to like Amy and Emily.
You need to find a good barber and spend more
on a cut and style. You have a fairly good build.
You are more Islander than Asian in appearance.
Skin tone (or the lighting) doesn't show Mexican.

Nice face, good eyes(two) and teeth (mouthful)
Not posing strap and steroids body builder, more
practical and probably have a healthy laugh.

Sorry bud, this old pervert says you are a prevert
and can bring in a panel of judges. Do you Wanna
go and argue some more?

 

[blackbeltninja]

As a 45 year old man, I have no issue with the use of the word 'old', I take issue with the inference that once you get past a certain age you're not supposed to be sexual.

Nobody has an issue with old guys being sexual. I do have an issue with old guys being sexual in places where they kinda shouldn't be.

My gym has a cruisy crowd - they're all older. None of them are subtle. Younger guys cruise there too, but it's rarely obvious. Therein lies the key. If you know what you're looking for, the signs from the younger guys are lit up like Christmas trees. Even if you don't know what you're looking for, the signs in the old guys are lit up like the biggest Christmas tree ever in the history of ever.

It puts a lot of the younger members off, and it quite rightfully feeds their phobias about why they shouldn't get undressed in a locker room.

-d-

 

[Kyanimal]

I can completely understand, and wholly sympathize with, "the younger crowd". Heck! I was their age, have walked in those shoes (and without), and I do truly know where they are "coming from"! I really, Really, DO!

However, they have not (yet) been My age. (And, neither have I, before.) I am still learning what it's like to be "old"!

I've grown out of most of my inhibitions. I've learned to not take things too seriously that don't matter all that much anyway. And, that little voice in the back of my mind, reminding me that Time is running out Very quickly, has been getting louder and Louder!

Also, though I am quite aware of what I look like now, I'm not constantly conscious of that because my "Inner Guy" still thinks I'm in my mid, to late, 20's!

I've lost my Youth, and am only recently coming to realize how much I didn't appreciate what I had "Then"! "The younger crowd" has NO idea how fortunate they are to be who/what they are "Now"! I sincerely wish I could let them KNOW that, before they loose their Young days, too. I have tried! But, since they are just like I was "Then", that's not going to happen with any degree of effectiveness!

For all of those reasons, and many more, we "old guys" are likely to be a bit more forward/obvious. Sorry about that! It's just the way it goes. We don't, necessarily, "mean" anything by it. And, the best way to deal with "us"? Simply ignore us. Yeah! We've become used to that, too.

By all means ... no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[Kyanimal]

* Oh, and chunky, hairy daddy-types to the front of the line, please.

YO! Over Here!

Pick Me! Pick ME!!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[jizzinmypants]

Nobody has an issue with old guys being sexual. I do have an issue with old guys being sexual in places where they kinda shouldn't be.

My gym has a cruisy crowd - they're all older. None of them are subtle. Younger guys cruise there too, but it's rarely obvious. Therein lies the key. If you know what you're looking for, the signs from the younger guys are lit up like Christmas trees. Even if you don't know what you're looking for, the signs in the old guys are lit up like the biggest Christmas tree ever in the history of ever.

It puts a lot of the younger members off, and it quite rightfully feeds their phobias about why they shouldn't get undressed in a locker room.

-d-

I couldn't have said it better.

 

[Level27]

I have noticed you can be uh acerbic.
You are young, You seem to like Amy and Emily.
You need to find a good barber and spend more
on a cut and style. You have a fairly good build.
You are more Islander than Asian in appearance.
Skin tone (or the lighting) doesn't show Mexican.

Nice face, good eyes(two) and teeth (mouthful)
Not posing strap and steroids body builder, more
practical and probably have a healthy laugh.

Sorry bud, this old pervert says you are a prevert
and can bring in a panel of judges. Do you Wanna
go and argue some more?

You are a doll.

 

[Bi Married Male]

 

[Willie Boy]

Nobody has an issue with old guys being sexual. I do have an issue with old guys being sexual in places where they kinda shouldn't be.

But who is to say they shouldn't be getting sexual there? Just because you youth don't want to see it does not mean they don't have the right to be there. The point is if it is OK for the younger men to behave in such a fashion it is OK for the older generations, regardless of your personal desires. If you don't want to see it, don't look.

My gym has a cruisy crowd - they're all older. None of them are subtle. Younger guys cruise there too, but it's rarely obvious. Therein lies the key. If you know what you're looking for, the signs from the younger guys are lit up like Christmas trees. Even if you don't know what you're looking for, the signs in the old guys are lit up like the biggest Christmas tree ever in the history of ever.

It puts a lot of the younger members off, and it quite rightfully feeds their phobias about why they shouldn't get undressed in a locker room.

-d-

Then they maybe need to express their feelings to the staff and the older guys can be helped to dial it down a bit so it is less obvious for those who would prefer not to be slapped in the face with it. If it is really there.

There is also the high probability that since such behavior is accepted from the youngsters it does not become an issue, but since the same behavior from the "older" crowd is not wanted it becomes an issue.

It could go either way. There is a possibility that some of the older guys have become quite lewd (hey it does happen), but it is also possible that many of the younger guys just resent the mere suggestion that an older guy is interested in them. This happens quite often as well. This is why it is best brought to the attention of the staff and they can investigate to see exactly where the issue lies.

 

[Curiosity69]

But who is to say they shouldn't be getting sexual there? Just because you youth don't want to see it does not mean they don't have the right to be there. The point is if it is OK for the younger men to behave in such a fashion it is OK for the older generations, regardless of your personal desires. If you don't want to see it, don't look.
.

It is indecent exposure. The LAW says they should not be getting sexual there, is that enough to convince you perverts that this is wrong?

 

[Level27]

It is indecent exposure. The LAW says they should not be getting sexual there, is that enough to convince you perverts that this is wrong?

However, Willie's point is that "the law" is brought up by these complaining younger ones in the first place because of the older guys' age. Had it been younger guys "indecently exposing themselves," "the law" would probably not be brought up at all because of the positive social reputation that a young body would get, even if it is technical illegal to perform lewd sexual acts publicly regardless of what age you are.

In short, willie's point is focused on the personal social experience (even though you are correct about the legality revolving around it). Just thought I'd clarify that.

 

[Lefty]

Y'all ought to de-rectify your thinking.

Read what the youngish but smartish

prevert Level 27 is saying. Try thinking

instead of clamouring..

Live and Learn are both TWO way Streets.

 

[Curiosity69]

However, Willie's point is that "the law" is brought up by these complaining younger ones in the first place because of the older guys' age. Had it been younger guys "indecently exposing themselves," "the law" would probably not be brought up at all because of the positive social reputation that a young body would get, even if it is technical illegal to perform lewd sexual acts publicly regardless of what age you are.

In short, willie's point is focused on the personal social experience (even though you are correct about the legality revolving around it). Just thought I'd clarify that.

Oh see I would still have a problem with younger guys doing it, even hot ones, as it is still inappropriate for a public place. Say you know the guy from before and you have some "fun" in a shower stall then I find it OK, but a young guy rubbing themselves in a sauna would still be unacceptable on my books.

 

[Willie Boy]

It is indecent exposure. The LAW says they should not be getting sexual there, is that enough to convince you perverts that this is wrong?

The law says men should not be getting naked in a gym/locker room/sauna? The indecent exposure law is about getting naked, not about sexual behavior. That would be the lewd acts law.

And yes, my point is that if you want to claim it is inappropriate for the older guys to behave in such a way you also are claiming it is inappropriate for the younger guys to as well. That is not the case of this thread. The young guys were complaining that it was being done by "old perverts" and implied that he wanted to see "young perverts" acting that way.

 

[Curiosity69]

The law says men should not be getting naked in a gym/locker room/sauna? The indecent exposure law is about getting naked, not about sexual behavior. That would be the lewd acts law.

And yes, my point is that if you want to claim it is inappropriate for the older guys to behave in such a way you also are claiming it is inappropriate for the younger guys to as well. That is not the case of this thread. The young guys were complaining that it was being done by "old perverts" and implied that he wanted to see "young perverts" acting that way.

Indecent exposure, lewd acts, it is still against the law and you know it, so shut your mouth.

The main idea floating around this thread is definitely not that it is inappropriate for older men but appropriate for younger men, the majority here are with the idea that it is inappropriate for ANYONE to perform sexual acts in a public place such as a public gym/pool sauna, no matter what the age or attractiveness, it is against the law and inappropriate. I have not seen many if any person saying it is OK for younger men but not OK for older men, I have simply seen a bunch of whining older gentlemen that made this idea up for themselves. Stop defending this perverted crap.

The OP stated that it was old men doing it, which is obviously the case - he was not pointing out that they should stop and younger men should continue, he was saying that OLDER MEN are the only ones he sees doing it. It is obviously inappropriate for younger men to do it but he obviously sees none doing it, so why say "to the perverts" when it is REALLY only "to the old perverts", he wanted to get to his target audience immediately as he has had no problems with seeing young men do it, as they 90% of the time DO NOT.

See, the difference is, a very small % of young men do it, whereas a lot of older men do. There is no point in telling young men to stop something that they do not even do? It is quite appropriate to only address older men on this point as they seem to be the only one's to do it, of course it is inappropriate for everyone but the younger men have the decency not to do it.

 

[Willie Boy]

Indecent exposure, lewd acts, it is still against the law and you know it, so shut your mouth.

Being naked in a sauna is not illegal, and you know it so why don't you shut your mouth.

The main idea floating around this thread is definitely not that it is inappropriate for older men but appropriate for younger men, the majority here are with the idea that it is inappropriate for ANYONE to perform sexual acts in a public place such as a public gym/pool sauna, no matter what the age or attractiveness, it is against the law and inappropriate. I have not seen many if any person saying it is OK for younger men but not OK for older men, I have simply seen a bunch of whining older gentlemen that made this idea up for themselves. Stop defending this perverted crap.

Please go back and reread the OP. The point stated was that it wasn't the younger guys that he had a problem with viewing, it was the "old perverts" (his own words). In fact he stated seeing younger guys doing it would have been fine. That was the whole premise of this thread, that it was OK for the younger guys, but not for the "old perverts".

The OP stated that it was old men doing it, which is obviously the case - he was not pointing out that they should stop and younger men should continue, he was saying that OLDER MEN are the only ones he sees doing it. It is obviously inappropriate for younger men to do it but he obviously sees none doing it, so why say "to the perverts" when it is REALLY only "to the old perverts", he wanted to get to his target audience immediately as he has had no problems with seeing young men do it, as they 90% of the time DO NOT.

No, he said that the "old perverts" were taking over, that they were becoming more prevalent than the younger guys. He does not "obviously see none doing it", he is just not bothered by them so he doesn't complain, as he likes the attention of the young "hot" guys. Again, go back and read the whole OP.

See, the difference is, a very small % of young men do it, whereas a lot of older men do. There is no point in telling young men to stop something that they do not even do?

So now the smaller percentage that you just admitted do it suddenly don't? Or did you just talk your way into a corner and have nowhere to go?

It is quite appropriate to only address older men on this point as they seem to be the only one's to do it, of course it is inappropriate for everyone but the younger men have the decency not to do it.

Again, just because one is not bothered by the young men doing it does not mean one can invoke the LAW (and the wrong one at that) to try to stop ONLY the "old perverts" from doing it. You have to keep it even.

Your attempts to get around your agism by saying since they "aren't" doing it, as evidenced by a lack of complaining about them (since we all know that a lack of complaints about something ALWAYS means it isn't happening) then they can continue to do it while it is called illegal for others.

 

[Curiosity69]

What the fuck? I said anyone no matter what age should not do it, it is totally inappropriate for the hottest 20 year old guy on earth to do it just as much as it is for the 50 year old man, how the fuck am I agist?

See this is where it gets funny, because you have no idea what the original posted has said.

"
I recently started using the Sauna at my college gym after work outs. Sadly, I have discovered that the place is being over run by older gentleman that sit naked with their legs open and touch themselves. And very few are in good shape. If you are one of these men please stop it and have some decency. Thanks. "

"
Nobody should masturbate in a Sauna but the disturbing trend at my University is that it is the older gentlemen exposing themselves, not the guys my age. That's why I said "Old Perverts". I actually happen to like older men also. And if they were in better shape then I might be slightly less offended but it's still inappropriate. This kind of behavior should be reserved for bathhouses. "

There, exactly what the OP has said. Firstly, he never said younger men do it, he never said he wanted to see more younger men do it. He said it is inappropriate for EVERYONE. He said he would be less offended if they were more attractive, which he is quite in his rights to say - that is nothing against age, a 45 year old man could be quite more attractive than a 20 year old man. He also said it is a disturbing trend that older men do it, and that younger men DO NOT (obviously have some decency). he not once did say younger men do it and he loves it, he said that there is no sign of younger men doing it.

He also stated he likes older men, but it is still inappropriate.

Now do you realise you are totally and utterly wrong? Read the OP before you argue about things he did not even say. I am most embarrassed for you having no idea what you're talking about

 

[blackbeltninja]

Being naked in a sauna is not illegal, and you know it so why don't you shut your mouth.

Cmon, Willie, you know he's complaining about them touching themselves more than the nudity; quit splitting hairs.

Please go back and reread the OP. The point stated was that it wasn't the younger guys that he had a problem with viewing, it was the "old perverts" (his own words). In fact he stated seeing younger guys doing it would have been fine. That was the whole premise of this thread, that it was OK for the younger guys, but not for the "old perverts".


No, he said that the "old perverts" were taking over, that they were becoming more prevalent than the younger guys. He does not "obviously see none doing it", he is just not bothered by them so he doesn't complain, as he likes the attention of the young "hot" guys. Again, go back and read the whole OP.


So now the smaller percentage that you just admitted do it suddenly don't? Or did you just talk your way into a corner and have nowhere to go?

Again, just because one is not bothered by the young men doing it does not mean one can invoke the LAW (and the wrong one at that) to try to stop ONLY the "old perverts" from doing it. You have to keep it even.

Your attempts to get around your agism by saying since they "aren't" doing it, as evidenced by a lack of complaining about them (since we all know that a lack of complaints about something ALWAYS means it isn't happening) then they can continue to do it while it is called illegal for others.

Blah blah blah. Again, a badly worded Original Post has the trigger-word OLD in it and now we won't even give the OP a chance to clarify his position.

He's clarifed his stance and said that he DOESN'T approve of the younger crowd doing it, actually, but nobody is reading that at all. Instead, we've decided that he can't possibly have meant anything other than what we deem to be the case by reading between the lines of the OP and because the trigger-word was used once he's persona non grata.

Same thing happened to me; been there, done that, learned my lesson. Still, all the older guys in here are ignoring the legalities and harping on the age aspect.

-d-