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Trump's Mass Deportation Plans

Hey all you Americans complaining about the price of food and scarcity of products.

Time to haul your asses out of your comfy chairs, put on your overalls and boots and sunhats and head on down
to pick crops.

Oh. And don't fucking complain about the price of food in the future. Y'all fucking own this.


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Y'all gonna go bankrupt using Air Force for performance theatre as you deprt tens of illegal immigants that other countries won't accept.

Good luck with all that.

Insanity: The deportation flights Trump used military jets for—that Mexico refused to accept—cost the U.S. up to $852,000 per flight to attempt to deport just 80 migrants at a time.To compare, flights directly chartered by Immigration and Customs Enforcement cost just $8,577.
 
Welp...I figured that when the President of Colombia told Trump and the US that they wouldn't accept military flights deporting imiigrants that it was likely to set off fireworks.

I had posted this in Tarriffs, but if Colombia, like other nations is telling the US that it can't just land its military planes and dump out passengers without due process, this kind of raging tantrum had to be expected.

The one danger I see? If countries don't repatriate citizens expeditiously, the US can't be trusted to keep these humans from being abused or even tortured and 'disappeared' as Trump's rage can't be satisfied. Think I am joking? This is how the holocaust started.

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Thank you for following up to provide a source, though the Twitter (X) user MeidasTouch is not the author of the factoid as its tweet appears to suggest. MediasTouch represents itself as an American progressive media company that is engaged in "pro-democracy" journalism. Apparently that doesn't include providing attribution for content that it copies from other sources, or providing an explanation for claims that it tweets.

As my question stated, I was curious to understand a basis for the calculation. Though I noticed that you placed quote tags around the statement in your post, you did not include an attribution. Thus, I assumed you had performed the calculation yourself.

My subsequent research suggests that the quoted factoid originated from Anthony Orrico, a news reporter at the recently launched US division of The Mirror, which includes a statement on its website that it expects staff "to use their best endeavors to verify the stories being put forward for publication."

The article relates that the basis for the claim uses "publicly available data" to "suggest" that deportation flights operated by the US military "may be" significantly more expensive than flights chartered with private carriers by DHS. The reality of the situation is that whatever cost basis is eventually determined for the flights is likely to be different from the amounts published by MeidasTouch.

As the original article in The Mirror relates; according to retired Gen. Glen VanHerck, former commander of the US Northern Command, the Pentagon will likely move funds within its budget that are already authorized by Congress to cover "unforeseen, high-priority missions." The publicly available data used by Anthony Orrico to estimate that cost comes from a Budget Memorandum from the Comptroller's Office of the Under Secretary of Defense, which provides FY 2023 fixed wing and helicopter reimbursement rates from DoD to other government entities. I note that reimbursement rate is not the same as operating cost and that the original article in The Mirror failed to make that distinction.

As I mentioned above, the actual cost basis is yet to be determined. Regardless of the hourly rate, the federal government will be taking funds from one federal agency and transferring them to another federal agency. It is a bookkeeping entry. The tweet is misleading because it assumes the reimbursement rate is also the cost of operating the aircraft. That is incorrect.
 
Thanks for the leg work. The only reference I could retrieve was MTN with a quick copy of the text. It was Orrico that I had seen as the author...and I apologize because most often I would add 'Apparently' to the factoid. I was stabbing away at the keyboard while I was with my partner in Emerg so was very distractable.

Interesting in the context of the flights into Brazil and attempted dump offs in Colombia today.

And of course we all know that DOGE won't be in the business of looking for the best travel deals to deport immigrants. The planes cost the taxpayer whether they are ejecting undocumented aliens or just spreading chemtrails. Or flying missions along the US/Mexico or US/Canada borders fro reconnaisance.
 

Colombian president caves to Trump in dispute over deportations​

 
dispute over deportations

Hopefully the Trump Administration will be able to meet the Columbian President's desire to guarantee a minimum level of respect and humane treatment of the nationals during the deportation process.
 
Thank you for following up to provide a source, though the Twitter (X) user MeidasTouch is not the author of the factoid as its tweet appears to suggest. MediasTouch represents itself as an American progressive media company that is engaged in "pro-democracy" journalism. Apparently that doesn't include providing attribution for content that it copies from other sources, or providing an explanation for claims that it tweets.

As my question stated, I was curious to understand a basis for the calculation. Though I noticed that you placed quote tags around the statement in your post, you did not include an attribution. Thus, I assumed you had performed the calculation yourself.

My subsequent research suggests that the quoted factoid originated from Anthony Orrico, a news reporter at the recently launched US division of The Mirror, which includes a statement on its website that it expects staff "to use their best endeavors to verify the stories being put forward for publication."

The article relates that the basis for the claim uses "publicly available data" to "suggest" that deportation flights operated by the US military "may be" significantly more expensive than flights chartered with private carriers by DHS. The reality of the situation is that whatever cost basis is eventually determined for the flights is likely to be different from the amounts published by MeidasTouch.

As the original article in The Mirror relates; according to retired Gen. Glen VanHerck, former commander of the US Northern Command, the Pentagon will likely move funds within its budget that are already authorized by Congress to cover "unforeseen, high-priority missions." The publicly available data used by Anthony Orrico to estimate that cost comes from a Budget Memorandum from the Comptroller's Office of the Under Secretary of Defense, which provides FY 2023 fixed wing and helicopter reimbursement rates from DoD to other government entities. I note that reimbursement rate is not the same as operating cost and that the original article in The Mirror failed to make that distinction.

As I mentioned above, the actual cost basis is yet to be determined. Regardless of the hourly rate, the federal government will be taking funds from one federal agency and transferring them to another federal agency. It is a bookkeeping entry. The tweet is misleading because it assumes the reimbursement rate is also the cost of operating the aircraft. That is incorrect.

A factoid indeed. The $852,000 figure looks suspiciously high and the "up to" is obviously the get out of jail free card. Even $1 is within up to $852,000. Let's wait and see what the real figure is.
 
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Hopefully the Trump Administration will be able to meet the Columbian President's desire to guarantee a minimum level of respect and humane treatment of the nationals during the deportation process.

Agreed. This is surely more important than whether civil or military aircraft are used.
 

Colombian president caves to Trump in dispute over deportations (sic)​


Maybe not quite as you have painted it. The actual situation was somewhat more nuanced.

Andeven though I know that Americans are generally not that fussed about other nations' sovereignty, there was a fairly important issue at stake with the attempting landing of the two military planes.

Rather than backing down, President Petro threatened to levy a retaliatory tariff on U.S. products. Colombia imports 96.7% of the corn it feeds its livestock from the U.S., putting Colombia in the top five export markets for U.S. corn. According to a letter written by a bipartisan group of lawmakers eager to protect that trade, led by Senator Todd Young (R-IN), in 2003 the U.S. exported more than 4 million metric tons of corn to Colombia, which translated to $1.14 billion in sales. “American farmers cannot afford to lose such a vital export market,” the lawmakers wrote, “especially when access to the top U.S. corn export market, Mexico, is already at risk.”

 
Last time around, his buddies made out like bandits when they provided charter flights.

But yeah. This time it is about using the military for the performance.
 
For as long as this resistance lasts.

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sorry I posted those in the wrong place.
thought I was on the other thread.
 
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