Two gay men IS like yin and yin

[release2]

slnattak this isn't necessarily true. I'm attracted to men who aren't super-masculine, but who aren't feminine, either. You make it sound like all gay men are after a lumberjack or something. That's nonsense.

 

[bulge]

Str8ness in guys is repellent. Gayness in guys is appealling. When guys make love together, they sacralise each other. In love guys are each others priest. A guy sexing with a chick desacralises himself and looses all appeal.

The more a guy makes love to guys, the more he is sacralised and the more his appeal grows.

I hope gays will never imitate utilitarian str8 sex (compulsory penetration sex, marriage, nuclear family, in-laws,... and all other str8 horrors).

This being said, all guys I made love to, were str8 unfortunately.

 

[bulge]

what an assumption to make! not all gays chase str8 guys. i wud find a man attractive no matter his sexuality but as soon as i find out one is straight its an immediate turn off for me. don't make conclusions when you've only examined a particular minority

How come you think it is a minority?

How come it is not a minority in other societies?

http://ancienthistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa011500a.htm

How come it is not a minority in animal kingdom?

http://home.planet.nl/~gkorthof/korthof62.htm

 

[Daximus]

Gay men. It's time to look in the mirror and face who you really are.

You really do hate yourself don't you? I'm sure forcing your opinions on other people will make you feel better. Poor guy.

 

[bulge]

And those men, the 'manly men' are straight because straight male's brains are masculinzed properly right?

I mean , I used to find gay porn stars attractive too back when I was a teenager.

Then, they talked. And it was all over. Blppppt. Hard-on down. Their masculinity was just a narcissistic facade, a fake image- they were girls through and through.

I don't know anything more manly and less girlish than this:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omRLAs8enAc&feature=related[/ame]

I don't know anything more manly than gay porn stars and male-to-male sex workers as they are able to get a hard on even with guys they are not attracted to. Getting a hard on with a guy you are attracted to, is easy. Try it with a guy you are not attracted to and you will be a man.

 

[Beef and Fur]

I don't know anything more manly and less girlish than this:




He's an uptalker with a high voice. He might be beefy and muscular, but the voice and mannerisms were reading on the nellie side of the charts. Try listening without watching the video. I don't think anything is wrong with him mind you, but since the point of the OP's original post is stereotypes and generalizations, it fits right in.

 

[bulge]

I don't know anything more manly and less girlish than this:




He's an uptalker with a high voice. He might be beefy and muscular, but the voice and mannerisms were reading on the nellie side of the charts. Try listening without watching the video. I don't think anything is wrong with him mind you, but since the point of the OP's original post is stereotypes and generalizations, it fits right in.

I don't know. Most str8 guys, at least European guys, act exactly like this. I am from Europe and I have the impression American str8 guys clearly overact so that there is always a difference showing as soon as a guy talks about the subjects Matthew Rush is interviewed about. When an American man is interviewed about the subjects Mattew Rush is, he cann't use the deep voice tone style most guys who want to "act str8" (I mean str8 guys and certainly not gays) think suitable to use. "Gay manierism" certainly is not typically American, but a certain way American guys think they have to talk in order not to sound too unmanly certainly is (once again I mean ONLY str8 guys here). On the rebound Americans assume too quickly a guy doesn't act str8 when he talks about certain subjects while their own culture doesn't allow to talk about certain subjects in a what they see as a "manly" way.

There was an interview of a Latino living in Paris (Tiger Tyson) that disappeared from the internet. You would have sensed what I mean if you saw it.

http://www.beautifulmag.eu/beautiful/2007/04/tiger_tysons_ei.html

http://www.beautifulmag.eu/beautiful/2007/04/tiger_tysons_ei_1.html

How do you think the following guys act when talking? Str8 or gay?

http://www.thugmart.com/pros-cons-p-183.html

 

[Rex]

I don't know anything more manly and less girlish than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omRLAs8enAc&feature=related

I don't know anything more manly than gay porn stars and male-to-male sex workers as they are able to get a hard on even with guys they are not attracted to. Getting a hard on with a guy you are attracted to, is easy. Try it with a guy you are not attracted to and you will be a man.

He looks manly but he's a big muscle queen.

Not to say there aren't manly gay guys but Mathew Rush isn't one of them.

 

[bulge]

He looks manly but he's a big muscle queen.

Not to say there aren't manly gay guys but Mathew Rush isn't one of them.

I don't see anything unmanly in Matthew Rush. It is not because American str8s OVEROVEROVERact their "str8-acting" part you can jump to the conclusion there would be something unmanly in Matthew Rush.

 

[innocentbychoice]

The only problem with this thread is that slnattak keeps expressing his opinion as if it was a fact. He could say whatever he wanted an nobody would pay attention but he keeps trying to force his opinion and vision on us while saying that all gay men are basically females in men's bodies (aren't those actually called TRANSGENDER?), and his opinion hasn't been supported by real facts so far.

 

[Lord Booticus]

You're not saying anything factual though. Virtually all gay men report gender atypical traits growing up. And yet they are attracted to traditional masculinity. So they aren't attracted to other gay men, they are attracted to straight men and straight men are usually attracted to them.

Ok I'm going to try to make sense of what you've said in this thread and your other thread.

The firts thing is that you seem to think all gay people act feminine and that all straight men are masculine. I'm nto sure of your definition of feminine and masculine, but I'm going to assume their dictionary definitions, and I'm going to say thats pretty short sighted. Anyone can be anything. Not every gay guy played with barbies as a child and wore their mothers high heels. Not all straight men drink beer and watch sports. Shock horror straight guys can have feminine traits and be camp =O. In the same vein gay guys don't all have limped wrists and have a lisp. ITs actually pretty hard to figure out who's gay and who's not these days, especially with metrosexuality being a big thing.

Another of your poitns is that all gay men are attracted to straight men. This might not be completely false, as in its more likely for a gay man to be attracted to a straight guy. However when you realise that a soltry 2% of the population is gay the maths is not on our side to falling for a gay guy. Not because all gay guys are flaming queens the prance around the streets, but because when you go into a street the guys your seeing are going to be straight.

Are gay guys attracted to masculinity? Yeah, I'd say they are. I mean thats the definition of a gay man isn't it? A man who is sexualy attracted to another man. The definition of masculinity is: " having qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man", so due to being a man all gay men are masculine.

One last thing: Straight guys are attracted to gay guys?

 

[slnattak]

I don't think there are only 2% of gay men on the planet. Number is most likely closer to 10%. Not that I'm defending anything just saying. There is no raw evidence either way, partly because people are too chicken shit on the topic.

I am too tired to keep fighting this.

And I don't know if I even believe this myself anymore. I just like to shake up gay men on the internet. Get them to fight in real life and less online in their safe little boxes.

 

[bulge]

I don't think there are only 2% of gay men on the planet. Number is most likely closer to 10%. Not that I'm defending anything just saying. There is no raw evidence either way, partly because people are too chicken shit on the topic.

I am too tired to keep fighting this.

And I don't know if I even believe this myself anymore. I just like to shake up gay men on the internet. Get them to fight in real life and less online in their safe little boxes.

Yes, 10% gay at one end, 10% str8 at the other end and in between 80% more or less bisexuals who claim to be str8.

Thanks to keep us fighting.

I have seen too much about guys into guy-to-guy sex to still be able to believe only one singular cliché about guys into male-to-male sex. Are guys into male-to-male sex into soccer? Yes. Are they admired fathers serving as the right example to their sons? Yes. Are they ...? Yes. Yes. Yes... Is the brain of str and gay guys different? NO, NO, NO. Is there any biological difference? NO. NO. NO. Whatever "science" finds, it are ALWAYS and STILL societal findings just like in last century. There is nothing solid that science ever established about gay, str8 and bi. Never forget all "findings" have been done in homophobic societies. Any finding in a homophobic society is invalid and biased. Is it a free choice to be attracted to a guy? NO. Has it ever been researched whether society could function when there were no guys into guy-to-guy sex? It is not improbable a team of 11 guys is unable to function when not at least some of the guys in it are into guy-to-guy sex. Why isn't there any research about it?

 

[BuyMeCDs]

I highly suggest ignoring about 30 percent of its content. I'm sure you can guess what posts. It will only create more confusion and self-loathing.