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Tyler Clementi's parents may sue Rutgers

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I thought members might be interested. I hope it's not a problem posting this; the timing may not be the best what with the holidays. I'm not happy with CNN's headline.

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"Parents of gay Rutgers student who committed suicide may sue school
By Jesse Solomon, CNN

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
* Rutgers University student Tyler Clementi committed suicide in September
* He jumped off a bridge after his sexual encounter with another man was streamed online
* Clementi's parents have notified the university they may sue the school
* Rutgers says it is not responsible for the student's death

(CNN) -- The parents of a Rutgers University student who committed suicide after his roommate and another student allegedly broadcast online his sexual encounter with another man have notified the school they may sue.

Jane and Joseph Clementi say the school should have done more to prevent the death of their son, Tyler. On Friday, they notified the university that they were filing a "notice of claim," meant to uphold their right to bring a lawsuit in the coming months, Rutgers spokesman E.J. Miranda said Wednesday.

"Subject to further investigation, it appears that Rutgers University failed to act, failed to put in place and/or failed to implement, and enforce policies and practices that would have prevented or deterred such acts, and that Rutgers failed to act timely and appropriately," the notice said. A copy of the notice was provided to CNN by the university.

Rutgers university responded to the notice with a statement saying that while it shares "the family's sense of loss of their son, who was a member of our community," it also recognizes "that a grieving family may question whether someone or some institution could somehow have responsibility for their son's death."

The university is not responsible for his suicide, it said.

The body of Tyler Clementi, 18, was recovered from the Hudson River in September, more than a week after he jumped from the George Washington Bridge, which spans the Hudson River separating New York from New Jersey.

Clementi jumped from the bridge after two other Rutgers students allegedly used a web camera to capture a sexual encounter between him and another man and streamed it online.

Dharun Ravi, 18, who was Clementi's roommate, and Molly Wei, 18, have been charged with invasion of privacy.

Their lawyers have asserted their innocence.

Last month, Clementi's family consented to the use of his name on a piece of anti-harassment federal legislation known as the "Tyler Clementi Higher Education Anti-Harassment Act."

The proposed law would require schools that receive federal student aid "to create policies prohibiting the harassment of any student," said New Jersey Sen. Frank Lautenberg."

original article at: http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/22/new.jersey.rutgers.parents/index.html
 
I read Tyler's post here shortly after he wrote it. It's tragic, but how dies one prevent another he'll-bent on suicide? He had internal demons, obviously. No one will ever know the cause of his suicide with certainty. I'm sorry that he wasn't able to play out a full life to see ebb and flow of thoughts and feelings.

I hope his parents are acting more out of a sense of loss and grief rather than out of guilt and greed.
 
I could see a lawsuit against Ravi or Wei--or both--but I'm not sure a lawsuit against Rutgers is even worth presenting. Do you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in a college dorm? I'm serious. I don't know the legalities of something like this.
 
I don't understand why they would choose to sue the university. Makes no sense to me. I could understand a civil suit against the 2 who did it but not the university. I hope this doesn't sound cold but if they do pursue a suit against Rutgers, I hope they lose.
 
A suit against the school seems dumb, as they really had nothing to do with it unless Tyler went to someone to address the problem and the staff ignored him. I don't know the story though.

A suit against the fool who streamed the video seems more appropriate, since he's the one who actually broke laws and precipitated this whole situation.
 
Sad to say, right now his parents are still stuck in grief and anger mode. They have lost their son and are lashing out at all those they hold responsible for it, even if they aren't.
 
I think that it's more complex than it seems, and that the parents HAVE information that the general public (us) don't have..... namely something that implicates the university in this.

Let's see how this unfolds.
 
I thought members might be interested. I hope it's not a problem posting this; the timing may not be the best what with the holidays. I'm not happy with CNN's headline.

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"Parents of gay Rutgers student who committed suicide may sue school
By Jesse Solomon, CNN

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
* Rutgers University student Tyler Clementi committed suicide in September
* He jumped off a bridge after his sexual encounter with another man was streamed online
* Clementi's parents have notified the university they may sue the school
* Rutgers says it is not responsible for the student's death

(CNN) -- The parents of a Rutgers University student who committed suicide after his roommate and another student allegedly broadcast online his sexual encounter with another man have notified the school they may sue.

Jane and Joseph Clementi say the school should have done more to prevent the death of their son, Tyler. On Friday, they notified the university that they were filing a "notice of claim," meant to uphold their right to bring a lawsuit in the coming months, Rutgers spokesman E.J. Miranda said Wednesday.

"Subject to further investigation, it appears that Rutgers University failed to act, failed to put in place and/or failed to implement, and enforce policies and practices that would have prevented or deterred such acts, and that Rutgers failed to act timely and appropriately," the notice said. A copy of the notice was provided to CNN by the university.

Rutgers university responded to the notice with a statement saying that while it shares "the family's sense of loss of their son, who was a member of our community," it also recognizes "that a grieving family may question whether someone or some institution could somehow have responsibility for their son's death."

The university is not responsible for his suicide, it said.

The body of Tyler Clementi, 18, was recovered from the Hudson River in September, more than a week after he jumped from the George Washington Bridge, which spans the Hudson River separating New York from New Jersey.

Clementi jumped from the bridge after two other Rutgers students allegedly used a web camera to capture a sexual encounter between him and another man and streamed it online.

Dharun Ravi, 18, who was Clementi's roommate, and Molly Wei, 18, have been charged with invasion of privacy.

Their lawyers have asserted their innocence.

Last month, Clementi's family consented to the use of his name on a piece of anti-harassment federal legislation known as the "Tyler Clementi Higher Education Anti-Harassment Act."

The proposed law would require schools that receive federal student aid "to create policies prohibiting the harassment of any student," said New Jersey Sen. Frank Lautenberg."

original article at: http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/22/new.jersey.rutgers.parents/index.html


da products of institutions is well noted world ova

;)
 
I'm sure that Rutgers will fight this with some of the best lawyers in town.

They will strip bear the emotion of the case, expose Tyler's weaknesses (let's face it, none of us is perfect), thereby possibly raking more of his private life through judicial mud.

As much as it might help the parents psychologically, their attempt at suing ,I believe, will only cause them further anguish and pain.

Tyler should be allowed to RIP; if there is any case to be heard, it is against those who helped force his decision to take his own life.

me figure da ways of this post

da guy dead what tyler - no such thing RIP when folk dead they a dead

ans no case be hear but da one sittin around fa eons

so they wanna be Parents KOOL da world got lot moppin up ta do cause da blood everywhere

;)
 
What is the update on Dharun Ravi and Molly Wei, the 2 that videotaped this thing? Are they very much being hated by everyone on campus now? How is their lawyer asserting their innocence? Are they claiming that they didn't videotape this incident? Kind surprising that an Asian girl is responsible for his death, you don't usually hear about Asian girls being troublemakers in the news. Her family must be very embarrassed!
 
What is the update on Dharun Ravi and Molly Wei, the 2 that videotaped this thing? Are they very much being hated by everyone on campus now? How is their lawyer asserting their innocence? Are they claiming that they didn't videotape this incident? Kind surprising that an Asian girl is responsible for his death, you don't usually hear about Asian girls being troublemakers in the news. Her family must be very embarrassed!

one hope humans figure wait ans see ans get on with their OWN LIFE ans no add ta pot where folk love da stew

but

;)

ans lot parents< what think it they parents figure da figure of da whole

thankyou

;)
 
one hope humans figure wait ans see ans get on with their OWN LIFE ans no add ta pot where folk love da stew

but

;)

ans lot parents< what think it they parents figure da figure of da whole

thankyou

;)

Sorry but I didn't understand a thing you just wrote. Can you please write in English...correctly?
 
Sorry but I didn't understand a thing you just wrote. Can you please write in English...correctly?

what dat thens whens da marsians invadin every countrys idea it self ans gonna take ova da hotdog franchise at all world arenas?

:D
 
It is a tragedy, but this is just a stupid move.

It's not the university's fault.
 
It is a tragedy, but this is just a stupid move.

It's not the university's fault.

why fault?

if world learn from it many of many of many past taday be

ans folks make da babys share da ways of it with all

but all lock in da old ways

ans

all wear shoes ya see

;)

media ans audience wanna figure da obvious world ova

if parents wanna wear so a word as da Parent

;)

thankyou
 
I am not a lawyer, but I understand that the civil law has this notion of joint and several liability. That essentially means that if multiple parties are liable for a tort (like a wrongful death or negligence), you can go after the one with the most money.

Yeah, the scumbag roommate was most at fault here. The college bears some liability, and so the parents (if I understand the principle correctly) can sue both and collect from whichever has the most money.

I am not, as I said above, a lawyer, and this is not legal advice.

By the way, he DID report it. But it was already too late.
 
I'm not a lawyer either, but if I were, I would use the en loco parentis approach. - That any university should be held accountable for protecting its students. Even if the Colentis case is somewhat weak, several things might occur:

1. Illustrating how toxic the misuse of the internet can be.
2. The really disgusting nature of sexual harassment.
3. Perhaps the implementation of a "safety net" for gay students at any level - a place to go or someone to see if one feels oppressed over his sexuality.

I wouldn't sue for the money, but to clarify the idea of "where do we go from here" and ultimately, to save lives. RIP, Tyler. ..|
 
Unless the incident with the webcam was personally reported to an RA, I think Rutgers is not responsible.

I think there's definitely a basis for a civil suit against Tyler's roommate.

Unfortunately, I think a lawyer in the area must have approached the Clementis about bringing the case. And there's probably only a fee if they win.
 
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