Ugly People in Porn

[lakeud]

I am getting so sick and tired of god ugly people in porn... it's like they are letting everybody in these days, if your willing to pop a cock or fuck you can be in porn. Where are the good looking people??? Hell, I visit some sites and they stick an ugly, fat, bald, old guy with good looking young men (Jake Cruise) not that I am mentioning names. I am just sick of pimple covered asses and faces and people who look like they were found in the gutter of STD Lane.

Ditto, it's really putting a damper on my life... Honestly, it's in your own taste. You have the choice to watch what you want and if it really bothers you to see an old man with an "attractive" young one, and pimpled asses and faces...don't look at it. If you want to make a difference in porn, do something about it. No?

 

[Telstra]

lucky them & good on them

 

[Soilwork]

Jake would give a shit about your opinion but he's too busying hanging out on his yacht.

 

[TheBeast]

I think people fail to realise everybody has different tastes. It's really sad when you get people being really derogatory just because they don't find them attractive.

And as for Jake Cruise, yes he isn't the typical definition of attractive, but dudes, get the fuck over it. He isn't going to change his looks, why should, if you don't like him don't watch him. I really don't think about a dozen threads bitching about Jake Cruise is going to achieve anything.

 

[RexChun]

You're wrong about that...................

Jake couldn't BUY this kind of advertising!....... .......

And whose fucking business is it anyway if those young dudes LIKE him?
It sure makes MY fucking day!.......

Nowadays, there are some straight porns would not show the male porn stars' face, because few years ago there are a group of people post a lot of posts on-line said that they are not interested in seeing male stars' face. They just want to see fucking. After that, production companies start to release a lot of videos that you can not even tell who the male stars are.
Still think some posts here and there do not matter?
These video companies are unlikely to hire a marketing company to conduct a market research. Therefore, on-line posts is a very good source to obtain viewers' opinion. Of course those companies read these posts and of course they care about what viewers are thinking.
Even Mr. Jake Cruise does not care, other companies will get the message-- "do not release a video like that." This will make sure you see the videos you like in the future.
So, just for the record, I don't like Mr. Cruise's videos and I will never purchase his videos. Other companies please do not attempt to release any video like that.

 

[SouthBeach30]

I find some men ugly that others would walk on hot coals to just have a 50/50 chance of fucking! Just because you find them ugly doesn't mean someone else watching the video isn't gonna love every inch of them. Just don't rent a video or join a site featuring a model you don't like and all will be well.

Jake Cruise isn't my cup of tea, but he's got a bunch of videos that don't feature him, so I can download around him. Besides, money talks, so he wouldn't be in the videos if people who join his site didn't really want to see him in the videos.

As for the pimple covered asses, on that point we're in agreement.

 

[Telstra]

Nowadays, there are some straight porns would not show the male porn stars' face, because few years ago there are a group of people post a lot of posts on-line said that they are not interested in seeing male stars' face. They just want to see fucking. After that, production companies start to release a lot of videos that you can not even tell who the male stars are.
Still think some posts here and there do not matter?
These video companies are unlikely to hire a marketing company to conduct a market research. Therefore, on-line posts is a very good source to obtain viewers' opinion. Of course those companies read these posts and of course they care about what viewers are thinking.
Even Mr. Jake Cruise does not care, other companies will get the message-- "do not release a video like that." This will make sure you see the videos you like in the future.
So, just for the record, I don't like Mr. Cruise's videos and I will never purchase his videos. Other companies please do not attempt to release any video like that.

but why is he sucessful if people don't buy his videos?

 

[Telstra]

Not really tring to achieve anything....just my opinion

i only look at the hot guys but ignore jake cruise.

 

[Soilwork]

Dude... I own a yacht... I am headed to greece tommorow, sad for you though...

...and that has what to do with this conversation?

... and why is it sad for me that you and Jake both have yachts?

my point is that Jake is VERY successful because there's a HUGE niche of people wanting to see older men shag younger guys. He's landed right in the middle of that niche and he's the #1 Daddy/son site going. He's doing very well.

Jake is a good friend of mine. He laughs his head off at all the nasty comments thrown his way. Thinks (quite rightly) that it's just silly that people all complain loudly that they don't like his stuff when his fans never come to JUB to post nasty stuff about video featuring nothing but buff guys under 23.

 

[jaxon29]

I belonged to JC for awhile and liked the site. He seemed very personable and I love the salt/pepper look, just like myself. The models certainly have other options and so does everyone of us if we don't like a site/genre. No reason to trash people in such a mean way.

 

[Danno517]

IMO Jake Cruise is successful because most of the gay men that have the money to purchase his products look a lot more like him, than the young guys he gets to play with. It is hot to see one of your "peers" doing the things you'd like to do.

 

[RexChun]

but why is he sucessful if people don't buy his videos?

Just because A happens before B, can you conclude B happens because of A?
You hear the birds sing before the sunrise. can you conclude that sun rise because of bird sing?
I love Roberto Giogio I purchased all the videos that he was in. Even I don't like leather videos and east European leather videos are laughable. I still purchase them if they have Roberto Giogio in them. Judge from my purchase behavior a company may reach the conclusion that I love leather videos when in fact, I never a big fan.
That is the problem with these web sites. They don't have the money and time to find out what viewers want and what are the elements that make viewers make the purchase. People subscribe the Jake Cruise's web site, so he concluded that people love to see him on videos, when in fact this could be a wrong conclusion (which we will never know for sure). People maybe make the purchases because they like one or some of the models and they just tolerate the videos have him in them.
That's why it is important to express what you really want to see, so these companies will not misinterpret regarding the elements that viewers really want to see. Just because the web site is successful does not mean people really want to see him. When people post a lot of negative opinions may not change Mr. Jake Cruise's mind but this will stop other companies want to get in this "niche".

 

[Soilwork]

Yeah, except the videos Jake makes without himself in them just featuring the men don't sell as well as the one WITH him.

The same way that people are shocked that Fratmen generally does solo movies and ask "you think there's a market in that?" in some incredulous voice, ignoring the fact that we'd know if there was no market in what we do.

I think it's funny, RexChun, that you think that Jake doesn't have the money to do a bit of market research to figure out why his videos sell so well. They sell so well because they're appealing to people who want what he's selling.

The same way that Fratmen sell videos to people who want to see hot men naked but not hot men having sex.

 

[Soilwork]

sexy-beast, don't kick the hornet's nest and then act all shocked when you get stung.

You're the one who brought up Jake for the umpteeth time.

I agree that to me, seeing strung out crack whores having sex isn't a turn-on. We at Fratmen go out of our way to only use hot guys who are athletic, in good shape and looking good. Then we get some people telling us that our guys are too polished.

Hey.. there's a market for everything and there's product out there that will appeal to you. Go find it and stop complaining about the existence of something you don't like. (you're aware that there's a lot of straight people who don't want to see gay porn, right? Should we stop makging it because they don't want to see it?)

Besides.. shouldn't you be on your way to Greece by now?

 

[Telstra]

Just because A happens before B, can you conclude B happens because of A?
You hear the birds sing before the sunrise. can you conclude that sun rise because of bird sing?
I love Roberto Giogio I purchased all the videos that he was in. Even I don't like leather videos and east European leather videos are laughable. I still purchase them if they have Roberto Giogio in them. Judge from my purchase behavior a company may reach the conclusion that I love leather videos when in fact, I never a big fan.
That is the problem with these web sites. They don't have the money and time to find out what viewers want and what are the elements that make viewers make the purchase. People subscribe the Jake Cruise's web site, so he concluded that people love to see him on videos, when in fact this could be a wrong conclusion (which we will never know for sure). People maybe make the purchases because they like one or some of the models and they just tolerate the videos have him in them.
That's why it is important to express what you really want to see, so thesecompanies will not misinterpret regarding the elements that viewers really want to see. Just because the web site is successful does not mean people really want to see him. When people post a lot of negative opinions may not change Mr. Jake Cruise's mind but this will stop other companies want to get in this "niche".

I think i know why his videos sells because him (represents us) doing to hot str8 guys.
And the filming style concentrate more on hot guys than on Jake (i have not seen any of his videos but ONLY saw his trailers.

 

[Soilwork]

I'm sure you will.

 

[gentle]

IMHO, it's great to have porn for every taste. As simple as that!

 

[RexChun]

Yeah, except the videos Jake makes without himself in them just featuring the men don't sell as well as the one WITH him.

The same way that people are shocked that Fratmen generally does solo movies and ask "you think there's a market in that?" in some incredulous voice, ignoring the fact that we'd know if there was no market in what we do.

I think it's funny, RexChun, that you think that Jake doesn't have the money to do a bit of market research to figure out why his videos sell so well. They sell so well because they're appealing to people who want what he's selling.

The same way that Fratmen sell videos to people who want to see hot men naked but not hot men having sex.

Of course I know he did not. One of the Private video's Marketing Director once gave us a speech about the industry (because he graduated from our school). Just in case you don't know, this company has some of the highest budget videos among the whole industry. Even a big company like Private do not have the budget to do a full market research or a focus group study and you want me to believe Mr. Jake Cruise has the money and time to conduct one?
Again, just because A happens before B, does not mean A lead to B. A study show a city with more policemen often has a higher crime rate. Therefore, the study concludes more policemen will increase the crime rate when of course this is the other way around. Because the city has higher crime rate, the city will often hire more policemen.
You argue that the videos with Jake Cruise in them tend to have higher sell. One of the many explanations I can think of is he may tend to pick cuter (or more handsome) models to shoot the video with. People purchase the videos because they have cute models in them not because they want to see him. Again, without a further study we may never know the truth.
YOu and Mr. Jake Cruise may be right but if you believe his statement to be true how come your company did not release a line to produce mature gentlemen with younger boy? If you think there is a "HUGE NICHE"?

 

[BUD001]

IMO Jake Cruise is successful because most of the gay men that have the money to purchase his products look a lot more like him, than the young guys he gets to play with. It is hot to see one of your "peers" doing the things you'd like to do.

Precisely. Like Ron Jeremy in straight porn, Jake represents "everyman" that connects with a lot of porn buyers. The average viewer "gets" the fantasy because thats exactly what they want: play with guys that are potentially way out of their league.

 

[Soilwork]

You argue that the videos with Jake Cruise in them tend to have higher sell. One of the many explanations I can think of is he may tend to pick cuter (or more handsome) models to shoot the video with.

nope. Same guys in both. With or without Jake... with Jake sells better.

Look, go ahead and come up with all the excuses you can... Some people (myself included) get off watching that whole Dad/Boy thing. Even when Jake pairs older guys with younger guys (the Mick/Blu scene from JC comes to mind), the fans like it.

It's so lame when people try to explain why people like something that they don't like.. there's gotta be SOME reason that not everyone has the same tastes, right?

YOu and Mr. Jake Cruise may be right but if you believe his statement to be true how come your company did not release a line to produce mature gentlemen with younger boy? If you think there is a "HUGE NICHE"?

Because that's not what Fratmen does. Fratmen is about solo, college-age athletes. That's OUR niche. Also quite huge.