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Uncut for too long!

OH, and honda, I'm not trying to come down on you (although suggesting that you're gay because you got cut is the kind of thing that makes me wanna break Femurs, but you say you didn't mean that, even though it's kinda what you said...).

I think that an adult who's hell bent on Circumcision is kinda odd. I'm pissed that I'm cut and yes, I've been rejected because I was.. but I get laid a lot and i don't think it's got anything to do with my sexual performance.
 
quick question for you since you are having it done......i wanted to know if you discussed specifics with the doctor.

since im cut, i dont know the intensity of the pleasure areas that are on the inside of the foreskin covering the head, but i assume they are quite nice, and this is the same part that is cut off when we are babies. but since you are an adult, and can coordinate with the doctor, is it possible for the doctor to make the cut lower on your dick, rather than high whereby removing the area that covers the head. then by doing so, the entire top area is saved, and just connected to the lower cut on the shaft??? by connecting it, your head would be permanently uncoverd by the rolled back foreskin. and your foreskin would still be there just permanently unrolled across your entire shaft.

then you would have minimal loss of nerves, and have the nice cut dick the way you want it???

i remember something about a guy that had his doctor do this.
 
I'm surprised that nobody has suggested a plastic surgeon. They know how to cut, they know how to sow with minimum scarring and have an aesthetic eye.

I don't think you need to fly half way around the US to find one.

I'm not surprised that the thread is drifting into the usual cut/uncut rant, but guys, try to stick to the topic.
 
okay, if you really want it at least ask some questions like.
will you be cutting the foreskin so it is tight or will I still be able to masturbate without using a tub of lube.

I enjoy the sensation I now get from running my foreskin over the head of my penis. How much less of a sensation will it be after you remove the foreskin.

will I cum as much without it and as often as I used to and will I want to masterbate as often as I used to or is the feeling of needing to get off not be as important
 
Guys
many thanks to all of you for your advice. It is all certainly thought provoking and I will take my time in making any decission.
some things though that I do think about.
Soilwork, your websites are some of the best and the boys you have are awesome. However, how many of them are uncut? You see, I really look to those boys and think, that could have been me a few years ago but I did not have the guts to do anything like that as I was afraid of being humiliated as I was uncut. The number of times I turned down dates as I knew that I would be embarrassed was terrible. Perhaps not being cut was not the reason for me being gay but, I often wonder. Soilwork, your advice though has made me think and ponder this more and I do appreciate your thoughts. I just wish.......
 
Mustangman,

I think Soilwork is right in that you really should see a counselor before making such a hefty decision. Very wise advise and it could keep you from making a mistake you will regret for the rest of your life.

I am cut and am glad of it. My parents made the decision for me but I have no ill will towards them for it and am happy with what I have. I never think of it at all.
 
How many are uncut?

According to our members, not nearly enough (although the answer is 12).

We choose mostly from a pool of young men from America who are over the age of 18, and therefore mostly circumcized.

However, now that it's not nearly as common, in about 10 years, Fratmen will have many more Uncut Fratmen, and we're actively recruiting uncut men right now (so any of you uncut studs out there.. send us your pics).

I'm hoping to release a collection of Uncut Fratmen right now which means we'll need a few more.

And trust me "I'm Uncut" is like a mating call for me.

But look.. as long as you're making this decision for the right reasons and not the wrong ones, we'll all support you. I just don't like seeing people doing irreversible and expensive things for the wrong reasons.
 
How many are uncut?

According to our members, not nearly enough (although the answer is 12).

We choose mostly from a pool of young men from America who are over the age of 18, and therefore mostly circumcized.

However, now that it's not nearly as common, in about 10 years, Fratmen will have many more Uncut Fratmen, and we're actively recruiting uncut men right now (so any of you uncut studs out there.. send us your pics).

I'm hoping to release a collection of Uncut Fratmen right now which means we'll need a few more.

And trust me "I'm Uncut" is like a mating call for me.

But look.. as long as you're making this decision for the right reasons and not the wrong ones, we'll all support you. I just don't like seeing people doing irreversible and expensive things for the wrong reasons.
What! who?????
 
Who's uncut at Fratmen?

Geez.. off the top of my head..

Cameron, Alex, Morgan, Hector, Beau, Ryan, Kelly, Clay, DJ...

I know there's more but I'll have to get back to you. (we have like 120 models, so it's tough to remember everyone. )

And yeah... members are always asking for uncut models. It's right up there with "more Armpit hair" and "Unshaved Pubes" on the Request list.
 
Yes, I remember seeing somebody ask for more uncut guys once. And I believe your reply was "well, we look at a lot of things and whether somebody is cut or uncut is quite a ways down on the list" haha. I loved that response... I thought it totally appropriate. cut vs uncut doesn't make a good porn star imo haha.
 
Yeah.. it's true.

We'd love a few uncut men in the mix, but really, they have to have a handsome face and a hot body.

Everything after that is kinda gravy.
 
What makes this convo so sad is that if there wasn't almost universal circumcision for three generations is America, these NORMAL, natural, intact men would not have this strange, unatural hatred for an important part of their body. These men have been socially brainwashed to hate a part of themselves...

Whatev!...
 
I'm just glad that I really don't have the neurosis.

I find men attractive and dont' worry about a dick I do or don't like.

(My point about breaking up with my BF if he got cut was really about breaking up with someone who has issues that are so extreme that he'd amputate part of his body just because he doesn't like it)
 
People go in for all sorts of cosmetic surgery's because they don't like a part of their body and they are able to change it.

Interesting you should mention that. There's this guy that I know who is young... like 24 and he's so caught up on his looks. I told him that at some point the looks fade. And he said that's why there's plastic surgery.

It got me thinking. I don't know if I could date somebody who had plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons. If it is because of a burn or accident, that's totally different. But for cosmetic reasons, to me, it says that the person can't be happy with who he is. There are parts of me that I don't like... just small things here and there. But I could never go through the risks of surgery to have them changed. I know I'll never be the best looking guy on earth... but I'm above average and overall, I like how I look. There's a whole person on the inside that is far more imporant than what's on the outside. And if a boy can't look past a few outside flaws to see the whole person, then it's not a boy worth my time.

And I can't believe people would refuse to date somebody simply based on their foreskin status. I mean, talk about superficial!! The skin pulls back you know when the dick is hard and looks like a cut cock... so what's the big deal? Whatever, if somebody's criteria to date me is to know my foreskin status, I'd be happy to show him the door before the answer.
 
Mustangman if you follow through with this, please be sure you find someone who knows what they are doing. When I was cut as a child the job was not done properly and it looks like a mess. It has created more problems than it fixed. Please be careful who you select.
 
Yeah I totally agree. I get turned off by uncut guys - and there isn't a single picture on my comp of an uncut guy, well maybe one or two, but I always skip over them. I too would much prefer to be with someone who's cut. I just think they are soo ugly, and I'm glad I got rid of my foreskin! To each their own though! Different strokes for differenent folks!

Now I have nothing at all against uncut guys as I see so many HOT uncut guys but I have always been turned off by uncut cocks and cannot ever see myself with a guy that is not cut. I even tend to skip over 80% of pics and videos of uncut guys as I just do not find all that extra skin attractive.

Well guess what? I'm quite the opposite, I tend to be skipping through 95% of the regular American porn where guys are typically circumcised, young, and white. I'm sure many Europeans feel the same way - that a cut cock, is, for lack of a better word, weird. Now unfortunately I had a post that was deleted because I used some bad language that apparently just isn't acceptable for a safe discussion where people talk about how one cock is better than the other :roll:

To cut to the chase and the jist of my original post: people who are circumcised often have no say on what is better and what is no.

People are usually cut for 4 reasons:

1. They wanted it done. <-- meaning, they were biased for the operation to begin with. no one spends money, time, and a load of pain if they weren't psychologically dispositioned for cut dicks to begin with.
2. They had no choice in the matter. <-- meaning, they have absolutely no say on what is better, considering they never had one to begin with. you can't say American food is the best food in the world if you never tasted anything else. You also can't miss what you never had (though you can certainly dream), and never give hypotheses on what would 'have happened' if you were left uncut. Case in point: That is absolutely incorrect and fallacious, and a dubious claim with no merit.
3. They had it done for medical reasons. <-- meaning, their foreskin didn't work or had problems to begin with. And why would anyone enjoy a broken foreskin - this naturally makes them pro-circumcision if they had an operation that got rid of a problem. They have no right to say "they experienced both sides" because really, they didn't - often most are attention queens looking for well, attention, even if their validity for making a claim is moot.
4. It was a requirement of a religion. <-- meaning, they never valued their foreskin to begin with.
5. They were forced by external peers/pressure. <-- meaning, they have a very shallow lover/group of friends, and need to find new people that don't make them feel insecure. Any person that falls victim to social pressures is by nature, insecure.

Maybe I have been too harsh on this subject. I don't see myself ever not dating someone because they were uncut. Thats just rediculous. But - if I could "build" my dream boy (you know like you go online and build a car) you'd better believe I'd choose cut!

For the last 1900 years since the birth of Christ, the definition of a man was anatomically, uncircumcised. Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you look at any classical art, males are depicted as uncircumcised. Look at what is regarded as the epitome of neoclassic male aesthetics - Michaelangelo's David, and look at his penis.

You should be questioning your own positionality in society, and how your own cultural aesthetics are socially constructed. It is not normal, I dare say, for a person to prefer something that is not natural. How many straight men do you see go around asking their wives to get labiaplasty for their meat curtains, breast enhancements for bigger tits, and plastic surgery for smaller noses? Why stop there? Why don't parents start to choose the hair/eyes/sex of their children, so that they come up with the "perfect" child?

And of course, this leads to you as the individual promoting this argument - exposing your own insecurity. And most likely, this insecurity arising from growing up uncut in a country where most men have been cut (for the last half century, at that). Now there is nothing wrong with you having an inferiority complex, but I am in absolute opposition to you compelling other readers of being part of an infectious inferiority complex.
 
He has made the decision to Cut. What's the big deal?
Everyday, many people make decisions.Some decide to have babies even though they've heard that its an agony to give birth.
Some decide to go for war, but does it change the fact that its still painful to be shot or slaughtered?
Some people like soccer and I personally HATE it very much.But does it change the fact that many people out there still love soccer?
I hate white chocolate, but does it mean that Cadbury's going to stop producing white chocolate?
I love to talk, my friend hates to talk.Does it mean I will stop talking to everyone I see?Is my friend's opinion going to change my thinking?
Many Muslims hate Bush.Does it mean he should resign today?

For Heaven's sake, why are we even talking about this? He was asking what should he do to get his foreskin cut.Not " To cut or not to cut....":rolleyes:
 
Personally, I don't see this decision as being very much different from getting a piercing or tattoo.
 
I think a lot of the guys are thinking it is a mistake and that he'll regret it and not be able to go back once it's done. Just because he seems to have made up his mind to be circumsized doesn't mean that other's wouldn't or shouldn't try to stop him from making what they think is a mistake.
I personally wish I had not been cut, and I prefer uncut men but wouldn't stop seeing someone I was into just because he was cut. Gotta say, though, that it was always a big thrill to get down "there" and find a nice foreskin! Mmmmmm!!
 
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