"Undesirable gay men may have riskier sex"

[Yves]

From Queerty.com:

"A new report in the Journal of Health and Social Behavior scientifically verifies what we all already know– that the gay community's obsession with beauty has consequences":

Health News: Undesirable gay men may have riskier sex

TORONTO, Nov. 28 (UPI) -- Gay men who are not considered sexually desirable are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior, Canadians researchers have found.

Researchers at the University of Toronto say homosexual men may also develop psychological problems as a consequence of feeling undesirable.

Adam Isaiah Green interviewed dozens of gay men in Toronto to determine what qualities made some men more sexually desirable than others, and what the consequences of being undesirable might be on mental and physical health.
"I found that young, white, middle-class men are considered much more sexually desirable than men who are racial minorities, over 40 and poor," Green said in a statement. "I also learned that for gay men, being considered sexually undesirable can have serious health consequences, ranging from psychological issues to risky sexual behavior."

The study, published in the Journal of Health and Social Behavior, found that undesirable gay men face stigmatization, avoidance and outright rejection, which can lead to depression, anxiety and alcohol abuse. It also highlighted cases whereby undesirable gay men will forgo safe-sex discussion and, in some cases, condom use, in the context of sex with a more attractive partner.

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2008..._men_may_have_riskier_sex/UPI-34881227916074/

Full Reference:
"Health and Sexual Status in an Urban Gay Enclave: An Application of the Stress Process Model"
Green, Adam Isaiah
Journal of Health and Social Behavior, Volume 49, Number 4, December 2008 , pp. 436-451(16)
Abstract:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/asoca/jhsb/2008/00000049/00000004/art00005

 

[Fucker29]

Makes sense to me. Gays are persecuted EVERYWHERE in society. In the court room, our families, school mates, police officers, I imagine it'd be pretty damaging that the one community you belong to labels you undesirable.

I don't see this as just a gay thing though, we're all aware of the damages of superficiality in the hetero world.

Those were my thoughts exactly. It's enough already for gays to be persecuted and rejected basically everywhere...but to also be deemed undesirable and rejected in the community that was supposed to embrace you...that can't be nice nor healthy obviously.

And I also agree about it not being just a gay thing...in the hetero and bissexual world this happens a LOT as well.

 

[Fucker29]

Jy_Star is right on

it's a matter of having a high or low self worth. people of any stripe will do more risky stuff if they how low self worth or esteem

Although that certainly plays it's part it is not the only factor. Because...unless you're planning on forcing someone to have sex with you, the OTHERS have to find you desirable (since it takes two to have sex)...if they truly don't find you desirable physically, then it really doesn't matter if you have a low or high sense of self worth.

However, one with a higher sense of self worth probably won't have as much riskier sexual behaviors compared to one with a lower sense of self worth.

 

[neruda]

If youre undesirable just go celibate.
Its really no point hankering after people who dont want you

 

[Fucker29]

If youre undesirable just go celibate.
Its really no point hankering after people who dont want you

That's very thoughtful but why is it that it's always the "weaker" ones that have to change and adjust?

 

[neruda]

That's very thoughtful but why is it that it's always the "weaker" ones that have to change and adjust?

Beauty is in the mind.
IF you're "weaker" to him - he's not worth it anyway

 

[neruda]

Does this go for all the gay guys lusting after straight guys as well? If so the straights can finally breathe a collective sigh of relief.

Straights are a waste of time anyway....

 

[kallipolis]

It has been my experience that so called plain, looking gay men are more likely to be involved in a steady, monogamous relationship than live a promiscuous life.

I question the validity of the assumptions, being made in this rather superficial research.

It has been my experience as a lad about town, when much younger that the good lookers carry a greater risk of contracting sexual infections, as a result of easier hook ups and being on the receiving end of superficial treatment.

 

[kallipolis]

Ignoring who's more right or wrong, who's talking about the majority/minority of cases, you and the article both raise some good points.

Your experience shouldn't be discredited, but the article has some sense to it. It hot people slept with EVERYONE who came on to them, STD cases would be higher.

Hot guys can afford to mingle, check out the scenery, they have a list of options. Ugly guys have a harder time finding love/sex/affection/guys who are interested in them so they jump as soon as the opportunity arises.

Sit an Ethiopian and a well-fed American Mcdonald's employee at a table and put two hamburgers in front of them. Who's going to appreciate the burger more, who's going to take it for granted because they can afford to go to Olive Garden? Who's more likely to examine the burger and make sure it was prepared properly with the desired amount of fixins, who's more likely to just shove the whole thing in their mouth, regardless of whether or not it was cooked all the way or had the pickles removed like they wanted?

)Now I want a cheeseburger. You guys really need to stop letting me talk about food so much.

I would question your easy, characterisation of men, over 40 years of age who are from racial minorities, and economically less well off, as being ugly.

Very specifically the research identifies people with these characteristics, as being more prone to participating in riskier sexual relations. The research does not describe, such people as being ugly.

I would question the fundamental assumptions, of physical attraction that this research utilises in order to justify its claims.

That I dispute the easy working assumptions, of these researchers does inform me that the research is less than sound. (I am being, diplomatic). I could go on, but must shortly switch on the TV to watch my soccer team play.

 

[RationalLunacy]

I am sexually undesirable. I live amongst the Amish, am way over 40, and am relatively homely.

Oh, and did I mention that I'm in a long-term relationship?

Pffffft.

 

[kallipolis]

I am sexually undesirable. I live amongst the Amish, am way over 40, and am relatively homely.

Oh, and did I mention that I'm in a long-term relationship?

Pffffft.

Apart from your highly, entertaining character I would also presume that you are suave, debonair and devilishly handsome.

I base this assumption on my understanding that stable, relationships reveal the beauty within the human person.

 

[kallipolis]

I can quickly recover by stating that my use of "ugly" wasn't literal. Being poor is considered "ugly." Being over 40 makes you "ugly" by default, as does being a minority.



Semantics. You haven't confirmed or denied anything I said, just commentary on my word-usage. Next time I'll use long-winded sentences that would be eligible for a Harvard disertation.

I love your word play. Play on, regardless. I enjoy your wordiness.

I bet you play well, on the flute!

 

[Telstra]

Apart from your highly, entertaining character I would also presume that you are suave, debonair and devilishly handsome.

I base this assumption on my understanding that stable, relationships reveal the beauty within the human person.

i don't know about handsome but undesirable yes ...

 

[wraithsa]

this can be summerized by "desperate times call for desperate measures"

 

[Telstra]

this can be summerized by "desperate times call for desperate measures"

true, sex starve guys will go to almost any length to get it no matter who they are.

But i don't think their sexual behaviour is any riskier than anyone else tho.

 

[RationalLunacy]

i don't know about handsome but undesirable yes ...

"Lookest thou in thine mirror." - RationalLunacy 3:16

 

[Telstra]

"Lookest thou in thine mirror." - RationalLunacy 3:16

i thought i saw your pics ...

 

[RationalLunacy]

i thought i saw your pics ...

No, that was my wildebeest.

 

[GL]

Although that certainly plays it's part it is not the only factor. Because...unless you're planning on forcing someone to have sex with you, the OTHERS have to find you desirable (since it takes two to have sex)...if they truly don't find you desirable physically, then it really doesn't matter if you have a low or high sense of self worth.

However, one with a higher sense of self worth probably won't have as much riskier sexual behaviors compared to one with a lower sense of self worth.

and there's the rub.

 

[Fucker29]

and there's the rub.