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Urine Analysis - Agree of Disagree?

ShavedBare87

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I'm sure many of you have encountered this scenario. You go in for a job interview, wherever, it doesn't matter. You sit down with a man or woman and go through the usual questions, and everything goes well. They smile at you and say that everything looks good and you've got the position.

Just one more thing though. You have to pee in a cup.

They hand you the form and you go to the address printed in the upper left hand corner. You wee in the little plastic cup when you get there and smile at the nurse as you hand them your chalice of golden elixir.

Now if you're like me, you go home immediately and start looking for another job. You're pissed off and seething as you scroll through the endless mile of job postings.

"Why?" You growl. "Why is it that the quality of my work is determined by the quality of my piss?"

So what are your feelings about drug testing? Do you agree or disagree? If you were an employer, would you drug test prospective employees? Or would you ignore what they do in the privacy of their own home and focus on how well they do the job they are assigned?
 
I agree that one should be able to do what they please behind closed doors at home. But, I also agree that an employer has the right to protect himself/herself, other employees, and the reputation of their buisness by issuing any type of drug testing. Sad thing some people may not be able to keep what they do "after-hours" from the workplace.
 
Don't do illegal things and expect not to encounter hardships for doing them. Sorry. Light drugs like pot would hardly be a deal-breaker for me... if they weren't illegal. I mean there's nothing morally wrong with smoking weed, but a willingness to break the law on a regular enough basis to be caught can indicate a willingness to break whatever rules or regulations there are at work.

Of course each individual situation is unique, and I'm sure there are plenty of pot-smokers who are just fine as workers, but employers don't have time to "test" you out, they're just going to go for the best bet.
 
Just another way to keep the gap wide.

Although, if you are unemployed, and the only thing stopping you from gaining employment is a whiz quiz, just lay off the pot for a month.

How do you afford to buy pot if you have no job? :lol:
 
It's awful in the sense that hardcore drugs like alcohol, crack, meth leave your system faster than pot. Which pot IMO is the least harmful drug ever. I will not work for an employer that drug tests, I'm not owned. If I were to develop a problem with substances I'll go to rehab at my will or by a caring employer request.
 
WHat gets on my tits is that I have to piss in a cup to get a job, but people don't have to piss in a cup to get welfare, disability, unemployment benefits.
 
pat grimshaw said:
Train drivers in my country have random urine-testing.
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They do here in the UK - and they get random breath tests for alcohol.

looseliam said:
WHat gets on my tits is that I have to piss in a cup to get a job, but people don't have to piss in a cup to get welfare, disability, unemployment benefits.
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I agree with this. But here in the UK they'd complain about that test as breaching their 'ooman rights'!!!
 
Having been an employer I can tell you it isn't that fun from that side as well. Think about this, having to spend money just to make sure a prospective employee isn't going to be a major fuck-up and be coming in to work wasted and cost you your clients/customers or attack/sexually assault co-workers or even try to steal from you. Drugged out employees bring a shit-load of drama/baggage with them.

I'm sorry that a serious issue has you so put out that taking a few minutes of your time to fill a little cup with urine is so much of a bother. Usually the only people that have a problem with drug testing are the ones with something to hide.
 
yummylongsword said:
Don't do illegal things and expect not to encounter hardships for doing them. Sorry. Light drugs like pot would hardly be a deal-breaker for me... if they weren't illegal. I mean there's nothing morally wrong with smoking weed, but a willingness to break the law on a regular enough basis to be caught can indicate a willingness to break whatever rules or regulations there are at work.

Of course each individual situation is unique, and I'm sure there are plenty of pot-smokers who are just fine as workers, but employers don't have time to "test" you out, they're just going to go for the best bet.
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This. Regardless of whether or not one feels that marijuana SHOULD be illegal, it IS illegal. Until the day that it isn't, no one can expect to use it without any consequences. Besides, even if it does become legal, people still won't be able to use it and go to work. You can't go to work drunk. Many companies also perform random breathalyzer testing. Pot is an intoxicating substance and will be regulated as such. No matter how "harmless" it may be, I don't want the person working next to me to be high.

So, no, I don't believe people have a right to complain about drug testing. Anyone who uses any sort of illegal substance or abuses any sort of legal substance needs to accept the consequences that come with it. If the drugs are more important to them than employment, then that's just pathetic.
 
Willie Boy said:
Having been an employer I can tell you it isn't that fun from that side as well. Think about this, having to spend money just to make sure a prospective employee isn't going to be a major fuck-up and be coming in to work wasted and cost you your clients/customers or attack/sexually assault co-workers or even try to steal from you. Drugged out employees bring a shit-load of drama/baggage with them.

I'm sorry that a serious issue has you so put out that taking a few minutes of your time to fill a little cup with urine is so much of a bother. Usually the only people that have a problem with drug testing are the ones with something to hide.
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Very well put, Willie Boy.

I'm randomly drug tested by my current employer and in the past for managerial positions had to be tested as the last step in the interview process.

As a libertarian I'm a bit personally put off by such intrusions, but as a former business owner and manager, I think this is absolutely necessary in these times....
 
If you want the job and to have a career, you'll pee in the cup.

If your pride gets in the way, fine. In this economic recession, there's more than enough dedicated, clean workers who would be happy to take your place.
 
fetaby said:
Just another way to keep the gap wide.

Although, if you are unemployed, and the only thing stopping you from gaining employment is a whiz quiz, just lay off the pot for a month.

How do you afford to buy pot if you have no job? :lol:
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I'm one of the biggest potheads you're ever gonna "meet", but I actually agree with this. And I can take a break when I need to...ANYONE should be able to. Had a bitch who had the nerve to get angry with ME for HER failing a drugtest. I didn't know she was to be taking one, but she did...and somehow STILL managed to stumble her moochin' ass to my house, KNOWING how it goes down over here? See me...I KNOW I'm not big on willpower, so in the times where I knew I needed to get clean...I cut everyone off.
 
If you already know you're going to fail the test, why are you wasting your time and the tester's time even going?

Just tell the company that you guess the company is not for you and walk away.
 
The only employer that's ever tested my urine on application (or had the right to randomly do so during employment) was the military. I've never encountered it in the civilian world.
 
Aaron said:
The only employer that's ever tested my urine on application (or had the right to randomly do so during employment) was the military. I've never encountered it in the civilian world.
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I have in the civilian world...
 
I agree with this , though a lot would depend on the job you were applying
for . If you are taking drugs and working heavy or dangerous equipment
then you are not only putting yourself in danger but also your co-workers.
How would you feel if you went for a dental appt , and your dentist has just
snorted 2 big fat lines of Charlie ?
AS another poster has said if you know that part of the interview is a piss
test, then if you want that job badly enough you lay off taking.
Nowadays in this sue the ass of them culture you cant blame employers
for being as carefull as they can .
Another poster said that it is usually the one,s who have things to hide that
get all indignant i also think this is true .
A sign of the times dude .
 
disagree - in the US we have something called the 4th amendment, which stops unwarranted searches,

but, that doesn't apply to the private sector, sadly

people should be judged on job performance, not just asscovering HR hurdles

did "substance use" stop the birth of Facebook?
 
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