Video US Navy hopes stealth ship answers a rising China

[charles-smythe]

I found this on CL...is anyone else as concerned about china as I am?...
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I was reading this article and so many questions came to me.

What "super-stealthy warship"?

What is China doing so that they are called a "rising China" besides the obvious?

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...besure to read the article...
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http://www.mycenturylink.com/news/read.php?rip_id=<D9V65MP01@news.ap.org>&ps=915

 

[Stardreamer]

I found this on CL...is anyone else as concerned about china as I am?...
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I was reading this article and so many questions came to me.

What "super-stealthy warship"?

What is China doing so that they are called a "rising China" besides the obvious?

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...besure to read the article...
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http://www.mycenturylink.com/news/read.php?rip_id=<D9V65MP01@news.ap.org>&ps=915

Primarily China is finally starting to develop a real navy and a missile capability that could make life more interesting for the US Navy in a conflict. But they are still long ways off from being able to project power far from shore. Our commitments to defending South Korea, Taiwan and Japan are the major concerns in the near future.

 

[swerve]

For some reason videos aren't playing on my computer right now...

But -- I DO KNOW that the U.S. is REPOSITIONING its fleet so that 2/3's are in the Pacific arena -- mainly because we see N Korea and China as our MAJOR threats...

 

[Telstra]

No matter how "stealthy" you are, people will find out if you do the wrong thing.
War game is not the answer.

 

[JayHawk]

I have a raging headache and don't have the patience to respond completely. BUT my opinion on China is that one she is a rising threat and she is trying desperately to become a blue water navy capable of asserting her will globally like we do currently. Still she relies often on copied technology and when you do that you do not get to copy tactics and techniques. She is for instance attempting to IOC a air craft carrier. A good analogy would be me having copied and built computer surgery robot. Without the knowledge to employ it then it becomes a very expensive piece of junk. That is not saying China can't get there BUT we are currently around five generation ahead in most technology and we are light years ahead in practical experience.

Final thought is that our lobbyist and hawkish patriots are also using this to continue our technological advance which is NOT a bad thing IMHO. Some may bitch about conspiracy and treasure spent but I would rather be on top looking down than in the middle looking up any day of the week. Don't sweat China. We got this.

 

[JayQueer]

As long as JayHawk is on our side, we'll be safe

 

[T-Rexx]

I presume president Romney will outsource the building of this ship to China, since he is a corporatist who does not believe government should be involved in ship building in the first place, always prefers the low bid as a matter of business efficiency, and does not believe it acceptably capitalistic for American companies to be helped to compete against the Chinese, even when the Chinese are subsidizing their competing companies (Solindra).

Businessmen make great presidents!

 

[Stardreamer]

I have a raging headache and don't have the patience to respond completely. BUT my opinion on China is that one she is a rising threat and she is trying desperately to become a blue water navy capable of asserting her will globally like we do currently. Still she relies often on copied technology and when you do that you do not get to copy tactics and techniques. She is for instance attempting to IOC a air craft carrier. A good analogy would be me having copied and built computer surgery robot. Without the knowledge to employ it then it becomes a very expensive piece of junk. That is not saying China can't get there BUT we are currently around five generation ahead in most technology and we are light years ahead in practical experience.

Final thought is that our lobbyist and hawkish patriots are also using this to continue our technological advance which is NOT a bad thing IMHO. Some may bitch about conspiracy and treasure spent but I would rather be on top looking down than in the middle looking up any day of the week. Don't sweat China. We got this.

Maintaining that technology edge doesn't hurt our ability to compete economically either but you can overreach. This destroyer sounds like just such an overreach, trying to cram too many new (and untested) technologies at once into a single unproven platform. It has the smell of boondoggle all over it. And coming from me that is saying something since I'm all for new technologies. There a Dutch company that starting to sign up candidates for a Martian colony in 2022, thinking of applying.

 

[bankside]

I must say from the outset that I prefer a rising China to a sinking one. And it is hard for me to fault China for building a few boats. China alone would have to be responsible for about a 400% rise in total global military spending before the US would be outspent on a per-capita basis.

However this is accurate:

I have a raging headache and don't have the patience to respond completely. BUT my opinion on China is that one she is a rising threat and she is trying desperately to become a blue water navy capable of asserting her will globally like we do currently. Still she relies often on copied technology and when you do that you do not get to copy tactics and techniques. She is for instance attempting to IOC a air craft carrier. A good analogy would be me having copied and built computer surgery robot. Without the knowledge to employ it then it becomes a very expensive piece of junk. That is not saying China can't get there BUT we are currently around five generation ahead in most technology and we are light years ahead in practical experience.

Final thought is that our lobbyist and hawkish patriots are also using this to continue our technological advance which is NOT a bad thing IMHO. Some may bitch about conspiracy and treasure spent but I would rather be on top looking down than in the middle looking up any day of the week. Don't sweat China. We got this.

And when you only build things without knowing how to use them, then unfortunately the old saying is true: Practice makes perfect. And that is rather ominous.

 

[chance1]

I presume president Romney will outsource the building of this ship to China, since he is a corporatist who does not believe government should be involved in ship building in the first place, always prefers the low bid as a matter of business efficiency, and does not believe it acceptably capitalistic for American companies to be helped to compete against the Chinese, even when the Chinese are subsidizing their competing companies (Solindra).

Businessmen make great presidents!

quite a contribution

 

[Just_Believe18]

I have confidence in the opinion of JayHawk on this matter. Further discussion is not necessary.

 

[Kulindahr]

Half an hour trying, and I can't get the link to work.

I saw a piece about this new toy elsewhere, though. It does sound like a little too much in one package, but then a friend who used to do military computer tech support told me that sometimes when they can't get the budget to do five different things, they'll cram them all into one rather than give up on any. I'm kind of hoping that's what this is, a project to try a bunch of things at once and then see which ones they might incorporate into existing ships. After all (since we're talking about China), we know that a great leap forward can end in disaster.