Vegetarian

[JadedRadiance]

No, I understand, but if you're going to eat that "veggie meat" crap then why not just go for the gusto and eat the real thing? It's like the difference between jerking off with a Fleshlight and jerking off with a toilet tube with sandpaper rolled up in the inside.

A very simple, analogous retort:

I'm "straight" acting, so by your logic of "since it looks like real meat, why not just eat real meat", since I "act" like a straight guy, I should just go ahead and become a straight guy?

I'm sure you will agree the answer to that should be no.

In short, the appearance of something should not dictate its substance. Just because what I eat looks like meat, doesn't mean I should just throw it out and eat meat.

But...

I have to go on record to say that Boca and Morningstar are horrible, horrible companies who throw a LOT of useless, poor-quality ingredients into their product.

Learn to work with tofu, seitan, and tempeh...you'll be saving money and eating less "filler."

It may be full of "filler" but still tastes good lol

 

[JadedRadiance]

If I knew how to cook, I probably would. But since I don't, nothing beats pre-cooked frozen food you just have to heat up

 

[JadedRadiance]

This thread reminded me of a song I heard back in the 90's.

Dead Eye Dick - New Age girl

Specifically these lyrics from the song:

Mary Moon.. she's a vegetarian
(Mary Moon, Mary Moon, Mary Moon)
Mary Moon.. will outlive all the septuagenarians
(Mary Moon, Mary Moon, Mary Moon)
Oh, she loves me so
She hates to be alone
She don't eat meat
But she sure like the bone

 

[metta]

http://www.vegweb.com


Awesome recipe site. Even has video tutorials on cooking. Look it up.

I have not been to that web site in so long. I remember when it was Veggies Unite.

 

[metta]

Anyone own the cookbook by Linda Long, "Great Chefs Cook Vegan" ? A truly phenomenal cookbook.

I have several cookbooks but not that one. I don't really do the cooking. Thankfully, I have had friends that like to cook for me.

 

[metta]

A friend? Boyfriend perhaps or a in-house Chef?

no....seriously....they are friends....my best friend used to cook for me....we bought a home together in 2002. He past away in 2005. Dkonfrost has been cooking for me since. I buy the food and he cooks it. I have never asked him to do so but he loves to do it. I have an amazing group of friends.

dkonfrost knows that I probably would not eat if someone did not cook for me. I just get so involved with work that I lose track with time. He works for me so he is hear anyways and I buy healthy stuff so it forces him to eat healthy. It works out well for both of us.

 

[metta]

I remember the story now. Metta, you may not remember, but you and I have been talking off and on for years.

I remember you Chance1826. I tend to remember people who are/were vegetarians and to people that really add to this place.

 

[JadedRadiance]

*points to screen name*

A vegan and a surfer? Two great tastes that go great together

 

[metta]

Oh god, they're assembling...

no need to fear...please let go....I'm not your dinner!

 

[metta]

 

[metta]

I just found a company that will deliver fresh vegan meals, enough for a week of food, in the Los Angeles area. Couldn't get much easier than that.



http://veginout.netfirms.com/

 

[kush66]

Hey Chance,

So, I believe the initial assumption you made that meat is unhealthy is, itself, incorrect. I believe the reason why there has been an increase in heart disease, diabetes, etc is due to the increase in "convenience" foods as to the healthier fare our grandparents ate. Sit down with your grandparents and ask them about the meals they had when they were kids. If you evaluate the nutritional content, you'll find they always ate a well balanced meal throughout the day. Combine that with they're day-to-day life style (much less sitting around and much more physical work), and you'll see how they're nutrient intake was well in line with the energy their bodies needed. Today, we often eat because we really like the taste of something (sweet? synthetics?) or because its simply there in front of us.

BTW, I've been a vegetarian since the day I was born and was overweight for a good 10 years of my life. Recently, with a change in what I'm eating and a much better exercise regimen, I'm down to a more ideal weight. So even vegetarians can be overweight, have high cholesterol, and/or be diabetic.

 

[Yves]

I live in the present. now
Maybe one day I'll start thinking about the future.
Live every moment.

Sometimes the reasons for being vegetarian or vegetarian friendly have less to do with our future and more with the exposure to alternatives (Indian cuisine, etc) or to a more balanced diet at an early age. Meat is more expensive too on average (at least where I live)

 

[frankfrank]

I'm unlikely ever to go 100% vegetarian, but as mentioned in an earlier post I don't eat all THAT much red meat. I'm thinking I eat about 40 pounds of red meat per hear. I actually eat more fish than that, probably. Years ago it was probably at least 200 or 250 pounds of red meat per year...

And there are a lot of vegetables and fruit in my diet.

Though my skin isn't perfect, and it still needs a prescription ointment to prevent cracking (mostly on my fingers) in cold-weather times of year, my skin is in better shape than ANYTIME that I can remember in my lifetime. I'm even thinking of when I was 5 or 6 years old...

 

[metta]

Bill Clinton's Life As A Vegan

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/08/20/139782972/bill-clintons-life-as-a-vegan

 

[metta]

THis one if for PreTTy PeTe


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKn9Grj_vx8[/ame]

 

[ssd1989]

I'm a vegi too, but I do find it hard to like PETA still.

 

[metta]

^
I feel the same way but anything Joan Jett makes PreTTY a happy boy. I don't know if he will see it but I thought I would post it for him.

 

[metta]

Carl Lewis: Olympic Medals through the Vegan Diet

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOTETXwfIaY[/ame]

 

[yummylongsword]

Personally, I believe it is morally wrong to not be a vegetarian if you have to means to do so. That being said, I am not a vegetarian and I definitely have the means.

It is completely possible to be as healthy being a vegetarian as you would be eating meat. And, since the only other benefit to eating meat is the taste and convenience, I would say that the life of an animal is more valuable than simple convenience and pleasure. Of course, everything is a shade of grey. At what point does the inconvenience it makes in your life outweigh the inconvenience it makes in an animal's life? Who knows.

I should be a vegetarian. I'm not, because I don't have the willpower and I feel like it's too hard to be a vegetarian when all of the meals provided to me are a piece of meat and a salad. Perhaps when I shop for myself and don't depend on others for food, I will become a vegetarian. Until then, I feel terrible but eat meat anyway.

Anyway, other than the moral standpoint, there's really no reason to be vegetarian. It's as difficult to be healthy as a vegetarian as it is to be healthy as a meat eater, it's just that the bad effects are different: anemia vs obesity, etc. If you can maintain a healthy diet as a vegetarian, you can do it as a meat-eater too.